Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

[moocow]

Physical media is generally retarded in the first place.

Doctrine of first sale disagrees. If I buy a SNES game cartridge from a neighbor (after seeing a demonstration that it's still functional), that game is now mine. Nintendo is not entitled to a slice of that transaction. Nintendo is not entitled to the total value of the transaction (they don't own that copy anymore, since they sold it (the "first sale")).

When I take that SNES game cartridge home and plug it into my SNES, there is no internet-based check to "validate" that I am the legal owner of that copy of the game. There is no opportunity for a remote system to decide "oh hey I've seen this key before on a different console, time to brick the console to punish this thieving faggot!" I can later decide to sell this copy of the game to a third owner, and the conditions are the same. It's a transaction between me and the buyer, Nintendo is not privy to the details, is not entitled to the money, and the cart runs on the third buyer's system whether Nintendo wants it to or not.

I don't care if it's "an unlikely scenario" these days. It is a valid scenario, one that exists right now, that at least some people still use. It is a legal right people have, have not surrendered, and is (or at least was) protected by case law.

All-digital games (and "key card" games) remove the ability to exercise this right. It is removed from you (or, rather, not provided to you in the first place). And they want the same amount of money for it versus a physical copy. If "the expense of physical" was meant to be a deterrent (or even significant to the bottom line), digital copies of games should be sold at a lower price to reflect the lack of cost of manufacturing the unit. You're getting less for your money -- less material and fewer rights.

No thanks. Physical media is great. Online checks, keys, authentication, entitlements, validations, etc. are the bullshit. And they're charging us more and more for it.

 

[NerdShamer]

Online checks, keys, authentication, entitlements, validations, etc. are the bullshit. And they're charging us more and more for it.

And then the server supporting it dies once the company goes under and your latest game is genuinely bricked for eternity

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

Doctrine of first sale disagrees.

I feel every retard who tries to tell you that you never owned your games in the first place haven’t read up on this law.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

I actually unironically want to be raped by Furukawa.

 

[Quijibo69]

I got and played Donkey Kong Bananza for a few hours today. So far it's a pretty disappointing and overrated game.

 

[Tate McRae]

I went to Target today and saw two Nintendo Switch 2 consoles. It seems that sales have slowed down. It's only been out for like a month or two, but I don't think it's going to outsell the first Switch.

 

[Eddie Riggs]

Nintendo peaked with the Color TV-Game


It's only been downhill ever since

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Bananza is extremely therapeutic for the destroy everything aspect alone. You can even make an effigy of Dong Gone in the DK Artist mode and then destroy it there too. At the end of the day, a Switch/Switch 2 + PC is probably the way to go if your sufficiently tech literate yet want to buy as much stuff legitimately as possible. Don't even bother with the Shitbox and the Gaystation these days, there days are numbered and expect to see more of their shit on Nintendo's platforms, Mobile, and PC.

 

[73_Autistic_Fuck_54]

I got and played Donkey Kong Bananza for a few hours today. So far it's a pretty disappointing and overrated game.

For me it has the same problem as botw, it's only fun on the first playthrough when everything is new. The levels aren't that interesting once you've gotten through them. Dinkey Kong's moveset is very fun to mess around with though

 

[Quijibo69]

I would rather play BOTW. I played more of Bananza today, The more I play it the more it feels like broken Mario Odyssey/Bowser's Fury. It also feels like a game that needs more time in the oven.

Edit: This is about my only favorite thing about the game because I thought it said something else at one point...:

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

No thanks. Physical media is great. Online checks, keys, authentication, entitlements, validations, etc. are the bullshit. And they're charging us more and more for it.

Unfortunately, true physcal media died the exact day that people started to let companies get away with shipping unfinished games that need Day 1 patches to fix myriad crippling game breaking bugs.
Why bother with proper quality control when you can just fix it at a later point and have the players find the bugs for you?

 

[GilaCutter]

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Unfortunately, true physcal media died the exact day that people started to let companies get away with shipping unfinished games that need Day 1 patches to fix myriad crippling game breaking bugs.
Why bother with proper quality control when you can just fix it at a later point and have the players find the bugs for you?

It's an interesting question since we rarely play those unpatched versions, and there were plenty of old games shipping with massive bugs or having last minute recalls because of bugs. Still it is easier to have patches backed up than the games themselves.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I actually unironically want to be raped by Furukawa.

To sue him for millions, right? ...Right?

I got and played Donkey Kong Bananza for a few hours today. So far it's a pretty disappointing and overrated game.

I guess it is a little overrated, but it's good. It is a little disappointing that it's not more traditional, it feels nothing like Donkey Kong. Someone else said it'd make more sense as a Wario game and I actually agree.

For me it has the same problem as botw, it's only fun on the first playthrough when everything is new. The levels aren't that interesting once you've gotten through them.

Yeah, I can see myself never playing this again. Or maybe just running through it and doing the minimum to advance, but still probably not.

 

[Never Scored]

People trying to defend Nintendo by going "Keycards have always been a thing!" or "They did this on the Wii U!" like you can't complain about it if they did it before is really something.

I want Nintendo to make games that are fun. I don't want to pay more than they're worth to me. I don't want to have to log into an account to play a physical game I bought. I don't think a physical game should need the Internet to run the base game.

If I can't have at least the first two, I'm not going to buy it. I'm hesitant to buy something that doesn't meet the last two unless there is a good reason for it or the game is an incredibly good deal. Some people get assblasted about this and are going to negrate me and quote me telling me I'm wrong for not buying something I don't want to buy. Just another day in the Switch 2 thread.

 

[Raging Capybara]

Mario Kart Wilds is such a colossal piece of shit garbage game that I'm still learning awful things about this digital abortion to this day. So in free roam mode, you don't have a lot of things to do, it's basically the P switchs and nothing else. So guess what? If you are in free roam with friends, the P switches are deactivated, so you are free to do NOTHING with your friends in the most useless open world in history. 11 years of development for that.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Unfortunately, true physcal media died the exact day that people started to let companies get away with shipping unfinished games that need Day 1 patches to fix myriad crippling game breaking bugs.
Why bother with proper quality control when you can just fix it at a later point and have the players find the bugs for you?

Is that what they call the "Bungie Destiny" model?

 

[BullfrogBill]

But when it comes to delivering exclusives that can’t be found anywhere else that provide unique experiences, they treat you like a queen.

They treat you like you have the Queen's wallet that is. Nintendo makes good games but absolutely refuses to ever discount them even when they are over ten years old. Any game made by Nintendo will forever be $60, and now actually $80 for a digital game, not even physical. It's so fucking Jewish that I can't defend Nintendo's games at all even if a lot of their games are decent. I refuse to pay full brand new release prices on games that are a decade old. It's fucking moronic.

 

[LightDragonman1]

For me, it really depends on if I think the game is actually worth the price or not. I do agree that the amount they charge for some of their games is ridiculous, but if the quality is there, then I'm willing to at least understand it.

Though having MK World be as high as it was was definitely pushing it.

 

[Megaton Punch]

You know, given how Sony and Microsoft are looking more and more into bringing their games to other platforms, I can’t help but feel amused that Nintendo, the one everyone said is going to go third party a decade ago, is ultimately the one who still does console exclusivity.

People have been making this observation for 30 years. Nintendo has always been the Hardware Police who want everything just so and any third party devs who don't like it can fuck off. Even the NES with all its unplayable AVGN fodder had the infamous 10nes chip.

It's why they've always had such incredibly strong first party games, and why historically many third party devs who decided to get N rather than get out made stuff that was just as good if not better. Sure, Nintendo consoles have always had their shovelware, but the ratio of shit to good was way better than the other consoles.

Then the DS happened and hoo boy. They really flung the gates open on that one. Made a lot of money, but their reputation as best in class game designers suffered tremendously and hasn't really recovered since. I wonder if they're going back to the N64 era with very few games of much higher average quality. I really hope so. We just...we have enough games.