Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

[Basic Blond Boy]

We just had two other longtime veterans announce their retirement within the last couple weeks, and Miyamoto is permanently in the movie/museum/theme park mines. It’s becoming more and more evident that Nintendo isn’t Nintendo anymore.

We still got Sakurai, hopefully. I think the man has one more outing in him though I fear that it is going to be Smash. Sakurai really needs to give it up and end on personal project. Would be such a waste to see him go out on the ultimate rosterfag game rather than something like Kid Icarus 2 or a new IP/Revival.

Also, Koizumi is still pretty great for Mario at least. Then again, he's been going since Sunshine, so god knows how much longer he has. Reminder that he was long considered Nintendo's new talent.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Ok, what's the fuck is going on, here?

He's either a parody account of A&N or might as well be.

 

[Two Dollars]

Perfectly succinct summarization right there. It's feeling more and more like the Switch will be my last Nintendo console (and even that's become a dust magnet over the past year or so)

My hypocritical ass couldn’t resist the allure of Air Riders and the possibility of homebrew, but otherwise, the Switch 2 could end up being the last traditional console I ever buy. Meanwhile, Batocera and FPGA are getting more interesting every day…

We still got Sakurai, hopefully. I think the man has one more outing in him though I fear that it is going to be Smash. Sakurai really needs to give it up and end on personal project. Would be such a waste to see him go out on the ultimate rosterfag game rather than something like Kid Icarus 2 or a new IP/Revival.

I’d say Air Riders counts as a personal project, and it was great. But yeah, as much as I like Smash, there’s not much they could do at this point without rebooting the series altogether, and that sounds like the perfect opportunity to switch to a director who isn’t likely to retire within the next 5-8 years. I think I would be content with letting fan projects carry the torch, especially with how crazy mods have gotten.

Also, Koizumi is still pretty great for Mario at least. Then again, he's been going since Sunshine, so god knows how much longer he has. Reminder that he was long considered Nintendo's new talent.

Given major Nintendo devs’ track records, he probably has at least another decade in him.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Sort of on-topic wrt predictions. No clue when it'll come (def not this early in the Switch 2's life) but I am entirely convinced that the Switch 2's smash title is just gonna be Smash Ultimate Deluxe. Since the Switch 2 has backwards compatibility, a hypothetical Smash 6 would have to compete with SSBU. I don't see Nintendo wanting to put in the effort to try to compete with the biggest smash game, so I'm fully expecting a full priced Switch 2 version of Ultimate with maybe a few new characters, maps, and a half-assed game mode.

You know what, I'd be fine with this. I think I can go a console generation without a real Smash. The series was dragged out for damn near a decade since Wii U, I think it can be put to rest for a little bit - might even improve Directs if they don't all devolve into Smash sperging for 2/3rds the console's life.

As mentioned previously, I think Sakurai needs to walk away. The series has been his prison since 2012, I think he's due to retire it and work on projects he actually cares about.

Best thing for a Switch 2 edition would be to just fill out the roster with some missing links, make it easy and just leave out 3rd parties from the newcomers roster. Add Bandana Dee and Dixie Kong to round out their casts. For Mario, you got either Pauline or Toad/Toadette still to build out the roster. Add some new Zelda character that isn't the trio, bets on Impa, Skull Kid or a Wilds era character. Then round it off with a surprise character like Rythm Heaven or something. Getting like 5-10 characters is good enough, just make them all from different Nintendo series to diversify a bit.

From there, a few new stages to go alongside the characters. Maybe add in locations people have been clamoring for that never made it, like Bowser's Castle. Personally, would love to see a stage based on the Edward Island Manor from Another Code as a Luigi's Mansion sort of stage. An Endless Ocean stage would also be nice - I just really want more bizarre IPs like we got with Electoplankton back in Brawl.

In terms on new modes, don't even know what you could do. Would like another Subspace, but that seems too big for this. Maybe a Melee style Adventure? Trophies coming back would be a great, low-effort, edition if nothing else. Something felt lost without them.

 

[starborn427614]

Trophies coming back would be a great, low-effort, edition if nothing else. Something felt lost without them.

I didn't know how much I missed the history museum-factor until it wasn't there. The stickers are...nice, I guess, but you can't beat a full 3D model with Smash's fun flavour text.

 

[Never Scored]

Like it or not, but when Iwata died and Reggie retired, that was the end of Nintendo.

Iwata was a career game developer starting at Hal Labratories in the early 80s. It's fair to say Nintendo was still greedy and wanted to make money, but on a personal level, he gave a fuck about vidya as a medium. The guys that have run it after him are all from the world of finance who care about finance and only finance. Nintendo aside, it's become a big issue culturally where everything has to reach it's maximum monetization potential and the only reason anything exists, including people, is to be monetized for big corporations. It is no longer important for a product to be high quality as long as it reaches peak monetization. People who take pride in the quality of the product they sell are slowly being pushed out of every company.

 

[Jarch6]

Oh that’s reassuring, good to know Nintendo only endorses wholesome family-friendly content like HOMOSEXUAL NONBINARY CHILDREN.

It’s either this or getting groomed on Minecraft/Roblox, pick your poison parents of today.

We just had two other longtime veterans announce their retirement within the last couple weeks, and Miyamoto is permanently in the movie/museum/theme park mines. It’s becoming more and more evident that Nintendo isn’t Nintendo anymore.

 

[Big Fat Guy]

All the bitching about Nintendo- I’ve see it all before. As long as they make something I like to play, I’ll be a customer. They completely surprised me with Bananza and the fact they set DK up for a major comeback ahead of his 50th anniversary is something I am still stoked about.

 

[Never Scored]

As long as they make something I like to play, I’ll be a customer.

Is there any price where their games are no longer worth it to you? I haven't played DK or MKW, so I cannot speak to their quality. However, I think the steep cost is more people's issue with the Switch 2.

A restaurant can make food I like, but if it's $100 a plate, I'll pass.

 

[Big Fat Guy]

Is there any price where their games are no longer worth it to you? I haven't played DK or MKW, so I cannot speak to their quality. However, I think the steep cost is more people's issue with the Switch 2.

A restaurant can make food I like, but if it's $100 a plate, I'll pass.

Again, as long as they make a fun game for me to play, I’ll buy it if I’m able. I gladly pad for Bananza and it’s DLC because I love it. I have played it since July at least once a week or more.

And for the rest talking about the social “culture war” bullshit- I don’t give a fuck.


***Also, I usually wait for games to go on deep discount, but there are a few exceptions. NRS games, Resident Evil, DK and Zelda (Nintendo seldomly puts shit on sale anymore). I usually always get on release day in premium editions if they’re available.

 

[Never Scored]

Again, as long as they make a fun game for me to play, I’ll buy it if I’m able. I gladly pad for Bananza and it’s DLC because I love it. I have played it since July at least once a week or more.

And for the rest talking about the social “culture war” bullshit- I don’t give a fuck.


***Also, I usually wait for games to go on deep discount, but there are a few exceptions. NRS games, Resident Evil, DK and Zelda I usually always get on release day in premium editions if they’re available.

So like, I can afford a Switch 2 if I wanted and I know my wife and I would enjoy Mario Kart World, but I am not buying it on the simple principle that the bundle with the digital copy of the game is $700 here in Canada. I don't feel the cost for the one game I want to play at this point justified. I can buy 5-6 Switch one games I haven't played yet and have enough left to go out to dinner a few times with that money and I'd rather do that as opposed to paying $700 just to play Mario Kart World.

Just to be clear here, you are saying there is no price too high for Nintendo's shit as long as you can afford it? Like if Switch 3 is $1,000 USD and the games are $200 a pop, if you can afford to drop the $1,200, you're in from day one?

 

[Big Fat Guy]

So like, I can afford a Switch 2 if I wanted and I know my wife and I would enjoy Mario Kart World, but I am not buying it on the simple principle that the bundle with the digital copy of the game is $700 here in Canada, and I don't feel the cost for the one game I want to play at this point justified. I can buy 5-6 Switch one games I haven't played yet and have enough left to go out to dinner a few times with that $700 and I'd rather do that as opposed to paying $700 just to play Mario Kart World.

Just to be clear here, you are saying there is no price too high for Nintendo's shit as long as you can afford it? Like if Switch 3 is $1,000 USD and the games are $200 a pop, if you can afford to drop the $1,200, you're in from day one?

Pretty much. If I can comfortably afford the cost of my hobby, then I’ll pursue it, as everyone with a hobby does. It’s not hard to understand.

Bananza was worth the cost of the entire console for me. I didn’t pay full price for Mariokart World, so until the dlc is released, I view it as a good game.

 

[Never Scored]

Pretty much. If I can comfortably afford the cost of my hobby, then I’ll pursue it, as everyone with a hobby does. It’s not hard to understand.

I was going to say I don't think that's true, but then I stopped myself because I am generally more fiscally responsible than most people and tend to carry very little debt. However, I will say that I personally I think pursuing your hobby no matter the cost as long as it does not bankrupt you is kind of retarded. You are free to disagree with that take.

 

[Incecticyder]

I was going to say I don't think that's true, but then I stopped myself because I am generally more fiscally responsible than most people and tend to carry very little debt. However, I will say that I personally I think pursuing your hobby no matter the cost as long as it does not bankrupt you is kind of retarded. You are free to disagree with that take.

I do not think that he was saying that he would be one step from bankruptcy to support Nintendo. Just that if he had vidya money for something, he would check the Nintendo catalogue first.

 

[Never Scored]

I do not think that he was saying that he would be one step from bankruptcy to support Nintendo. Just that if he had vidya money for something, he would check the Nintendo catalogue first.

I believe the phrase was something like "As long as I can comfortably afford it". I still find the sentiment asinine. At some point I would consider the opportunity cost in exchange for the utility you get too great. Just because I can comfortably afford something, doesn't mean it's worth the money.

 

[Incecticyder]

I believe the phrase was something like "As long as I can comfortably afford it". I still find the sentiment asinine. At some point I would consider the opportunity cost in exchange for the utility you get too great.

What is the cut-off point for anyone? I think that someone should pay for games that they believe they will and have the money for it. I could buy a game and get 1.000 hours of fun, does that make it not worth it? I mean, sure, if the game costs 70$ and provides one with 10$ worth of fun, it would not be worth it but if it provided 70$ worth of fun then it would be. He is saying that the games he bought the S2 are worth it for the money he spend on the system and games. How can anyone tell him that he did not have as much fun as he feels he had? You might not have had the same amount of fun with those same games but that does not mean others will not enjoy them a lot. There are games that are universally agreed to be bad but there are also no games that are universally agreed to be good. I have bought acclaimed games that while they were good, they were not very fun for me. Does that mean I had more fun than I feel like I did? No, it does not. People's tastes differ. One's GOTY is another's slop. Please, see that not everyone will have the same experience you had with every game and be ok with that. I tried to so to some of my friends Monty Python and The Holy Grail once and while most liked it, two did not. It happens.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Natethehate says its a partner direct. Show's over folks, go home.

 

[starborn427614]

Natethehate says its a partner direct. Show's over folks, go home.

What's the over/under on a Highguard port for Switch 2? I don't want it, but it would be very funny.

 

[broners]

What's the over/under on a Highguard port for Switch 2? I don't want it, but it would be very funny.

I don't foresee the game lasting long enough to get ports to any platforms it didn't launch on. While it's popular to pretend your Switch port doesn't exist until there's a Nintendo Direct you can advertise it in, you wouldn't do this for a live service game with no real hype behind it that launched just a few days ago.

 

[Bruno Powroznik]

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