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OK, I'm pissed. Why? You know what Falco's original line was upon seeing the ruins of Corneria City?

Really think about that line for a moment. The totality of the destruction that Andross' forces have wrought upon the city - and will wreak upon the Lylat System should they succeed in their plans - has hit Falco. Innocent lives are at stake. You can actually feel the horror in his voice.

What has it been replaced with? Marvel quips. "LOOKS LIKE ANDROSS REALLY TRASHED UP THE PLACE, HUE-HUE-HUE-HUE."

Kill yourselves, Treehouse. Please.
 
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OK, I'm pissed. Why? You know what Falco's original line was upon seeing the ruins of Corneria City?
this is horrible.mp3
Really think about that line for a moment. The totality of the destruction that Andross' forces have wrought upon the city - and will wreak upon the Lylat System should they succeed in their plans - has hit Falco. Innocent lives are at stake. You can actually feel the horror in his voice.

What has it been replaced with? Marvel quips. "LOOKS LIKE ANDROSS REALLY TRASHED UP THE PLACE, HUE-HUE-HUE-HUE."

Kill yourselves, Treehouse. Please.
>your ship is disabled, wings blown off and you are over water
>behind you, the reactor alarm fizzles out and you hear something break off
>your son's birthday is just a month away
>you sent the gift already
>Christine is going to get a package from her dead husband to give to her fatherless child
>how did it even come to this? why wouldn't General Pepper listen?
>the comm line opens up as the ship begins to tear itself apart


SORRY TO JET

BUT I'M IN A HURRY
 
but if I recall, you COULD transfer the Wii Virtual Console titles, but now they were in a separate "Wii mode" file and not just giving you a chance to re-download the titles.
They did as part of the system transfer thing they allowed, the only thing was that they and any WiiWare games you had were chucked onto the Wii U's vWii (officially refered to Wii Mode) so there was a layer of added tedium to playing anything that wasn't from a Wii Disc because you had to launch the Wii Mode applet or use a button combo on boot to do so first before you could play them unlike wii discs where you could almost launch them from the Wii U's dashboard like you could any other Wii U game, and they only granted you discounts for the Wii U versions instead of just giving them to you for free (and consitering how worse the WII U VC emulators were because of iQue taking the helm for a lot of them.. that was a bad look they could have avoided easily).
Keeping the servers online for Virtual Console couldn't have been more expensive than what they're doing now. If Virtual Console for the Wii (not sure about the Wii U) was losing money, it wouldn't have been on the Wii U.
The thing is, there was no true "server cost" for Virtual Console because VC games were part of the same servers as The Wii Shop Channel/eShop servers, so all server expenses VC would have occured would be shared with every WiiWare or typical game on the eShop at the time where not having them could have had a lighter server cost if they didn't., and chances are the "Nintendo Classics" servers are labeled under the same operating costs of NSO as a whole, including the servers used to run it any every other game that uses their servers, though the NSO side is just speculation because we don't know the percentage of people who wanted NSO for the ROM rental service from the people who wanted it because they locked online play behind it.

As for why Virtual Console stayed on the 3DS and Wii U despite the Wii VC seemingly failing long term, my guess is that it was the same "trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice" mentality they were doing with those consoles because of the inital success of VC partly because of the Wii being as sucessful as it was back then and being the only thing people could have bought before WiiWare debuted.., The 3DS in particular started out it's eshop the same way the Wii did with the WSC where it started with just Virtual Console before expanding to games in general.
In fact, if the Wii U started out with the exact same library the Wii had, they could've had both a strong library out of the gate and still could've surprises in store, like finally releasing the localized Mother prototype that emulator chads have been using for years (either through the prototype or "EarthBound Zero").
That would have probably helped simply because they were just taking the Wii VC library and bringing it over to the new platform, even if licensing/convincing third parties to let them do so would have been an obstacle, though that would lead into the question of how long could it have helped, given how bad they were at keeping a consistent VC schedule everywhere but Japan, where they were actually able to manage a somewhat consistent schedule during the Wii and to an extent the 3DS and said inability making it look like they would have been largely relying on the same old lineup from the Wii just to keep it afloat.
The reality is that people still want to play old Nintendo games, it was one of the first real "retro" games that people were interested in playing and would consider buying again
That's true, but at the same time, it is just the Old nintendo games and a handful of the really popular third parties, as that second article i linked about how VC was not as successful as people thought really hammered in when I did read it proper since it really shown how bad it was both handled, and how predictable people were when they did engage with the Virtual Console. It showed that when the Wii Shop Channel was on it's last day before shutting down, the top three VC games were Super Mario Bros 1, 3, and Zelda 1, which you might think is disingenious but just looking up footage of the WSC on that last day showed that the "Top Titles" really were just those three and the same bunch of beloved Nintendo made NES games, alongside Super Mario 64, Smash 64, and Mario Kart 64, with the only odd exceptions being NES Pac-Man and Sonic 1 on Genesis and Master System, and Fanal Fantasy 1 on NES.. even on the last possible day to buy them, a lot of non-nintendo games were left out to basically die out without preservation efforts and/or pre-existing emulators.

this mentality seemed to extend to Japan too with the sources cited like this one showing the "top charts" consisting of the same handful of rereleased games everyone would have been able to legally play for a long time now and extended to Miiverse where even the archives shown that beyond the nintendo games and third party games people did commonly buy, many "community" pages for a lot of games put on VC that didn't. fall into those two categories outright being borderline ghost towns (if they wern't that) with less than a thousand or two total posts, if that, practically sharing the same level of popularity as a lot of shovelware games.

Even Sega noticed how not good VC must have been because of how low Game Gear VC releases apparently bombed to the point they stopped doing so entirely and when the guy who made that article allegedly asked Yosuke Okunari if there were plans to release Genesis titles on Wii U VC, he said there was no plans (I said allegedly because they're was no archives of the tweet Yosuke responded to) and when Sega had thier own spin of peicemeal game rereleases in the frorm of 3D Classics and later Sega Ages on Switch, they just went with largely the same games they knew people would buy and maybe some obscure games thrown in for the hell of it. Sega Ages Switch was so successful, that it died even after they teased Dreamcast and Saturn rereleases that will probably never see the light of day.


As a PC user, none of this really affects me (I'm about to play me some Majora's Mask right here right now) but it's still retarded.
Yeah, the way Nintendo handles rereleases doesn't affect me or you all too much and it was indeed handled really badly, but besides that, another thing to ponder is how adjacent the mindset painted in the article affects unoffical emulation as well, as a certain someone not so intentionally presents, even with the endless amount of games you can emulate if you know where to look, there's still people out there who do just play the same games they ethier played as a child, or played in part because they were the games everyone knows about and even when not being rereleased to death, are still talked about like they're brand new games in terms of being discussed while countless overlooked games, even those that wern't released on no-name gaming devices or consoles that you never heard of until you looked it up are practically in the Mariana Trench in terms of discussion and/or relevancy.
 
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bluesky-video-1780061112317.mp4
OK, I'm pissed. Why? You know what Falco's original line was upon seeing the ruins of Corneria City?
this is horrible.mp3
Really think about that line for a moment. The totality of the destruction that Andross' forces have wrought upon the city - and will wreak upon the Lylat System should they succeed in their plans - has hit Falco. Innocent lives are at stake. You can actually feel the horror in his voice.

What has it been replaced with? Marvel quips. "LOOKS LIKE ANDROSS REALLY TRASHED UP THE PLACE, HUE-HUE-HUE-HUE."

Kill yourselves, Treehouse. Please.
Has nothing to do with Treehouse. It's a new script, and the Japanese doesn't say that anymore either. It's about how they're just wrecking the place.
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I mean it's stupid, but let's also not pretend like people wouldn't bitch and moan if these old games cost more than a dollar or something. Or having to pay at all for old software.
iirc the thread consensus is that all old games are worthless and not worth playing, therefore Nintendo should provide free copies of all of them, regardless of copyright status, so that everybody can not play them, even though anybody can easily download a full rom set on a PC anyway. You don't even need to pirate them if you aren't going to play them, but whatever. It demonstrates a certain level of commitment to being mad all the time at things that cannot possibly affect you in any way.

even on the last possible day to buy them, a lot of non-nintendo games were left out to basically die out without preservation efforts and/or pre-existing emulatiors.
Tendies gonna tendy, nothing's changed there. The state of commercial emulation and >paying for roms is much better now than it was in the aughts, with a lot of re-releases genuinely being the best version, but they aren't Mario 3 so who cares. Somehow the VC always comes up even though it's got fuck all to do with what non-Nintendo devs choose to do with their old games.
 
bluesky-video-1780061112317.mp4
OK, I'm pissed. Why? You know what Falco's original line was upon seeing the ruins of Corneria City?
this is horrible.mp3
Really think about that line for a moment. The totality of the destruction that Andross' forces have wrought upon the city - and will wreak upon the Lylat System should they succeed in their plans - has hit Falco. Innocent lives are at stake. You can actually feel the horror in his voice.

What has it been replaced with? Marvel quips. "LOOKS LIKE ANDROSS REALLY TRASHED UP THE PLACE, HUE-HUE-HUE-HUE."

Kill yourselves, Treehouse. Please.
"Andross has really trashed the fucking place. I mean look at this shit, Fox! They even nuked the fucking Midnight Owl! I had my first peck there! Not that you'd give a shit since you never picked up the holo-phone when I called you about it. Prick. What the fuck's he thinking?! When I get my fucking feathers that shit-slinging monkey, he's gonna regret ever setting foot on Cornayran soil!"
Jesus Miyamoto... I get you're a big fan Raimi's, but this ain't it chief.
 
"Andross has really trashed the fucking place. I mean look at this shit, Fox! They even nuked the fucking Midnight Owl! I had my first peck there! Not that you'd give a shit since you never picked up the holo-phone when I called you about it. Prick. What the fuck's he thinking?! When I get my fucking feathers that shit-slinging monkey, he's gonna regret ever setting foot on Cornayran soil!"
Jesus Miyamoto... I get you're a big fan Raimi's, but this ain't it chief.
Fox...
 
Keeping the servers online for Virtual Console couldn't have been more expensive than what they're doing now.
I giggle every time a corporate stooge or paid mouthpiece or journoscum alludes to 'server costs." Hosting a file on the internet is the single cheapest thing you can do with a computer. What they're really saying is "we haven't figured out a way to squeeze yet more money out of you for it yet."
 
That's true, but at the same time, it is just the Old nintendo games and a handful of the really popular third parties, as that second article i linked about how VC was not as successful as people thought really hammered in when I did read it proper since it really shown how bad it was both handled, and how predictable people were when they did engage with the Virtual Console. It showed that when the Wii Shop Channel was on it's last day before shutting down, the top three VC games were Super Mario Bros 1, 3, and Zelda 1, which you might think is disingenious but just looking up footage of the WSC on that last day showed that the "Top Titles" really were just those three and the same bunch of beloved Nintendo made NES games, alongside Super Mario 64, Smash 64, and Mario Kart 64, with the only odd exceptions being NES Pac-Man and Sonic 1 on Genesis and Master System, and Fanal Fantasy 1 on NES.. even on the last possible day to buy them, a lot of non-nintendo games were left out to basically die out without preservation efforts and/or pre-existing emulators.
I'm not sure that it's that weird that the big Nintendo games were the ones that were the most popular. It would be far more suspicious if it was something like ToeJam & Earl or whatever other classic title was released with zero hype.

Tendies gonna tendy, nothing's changed there. The state of commercial emulation and >paying for roms is much better now than it was in the aughts, with a lot of re-releases genuinely being the best version, but they aren't Mario 3 so who cares. Somehow the VC always comes up even though it's got fuck all to do with what non-Nintendo devs choose to do with their old games.
Every time I see a re-release of something on Steam or whatever, unless they specifically went back and fixed a bunch of issues, is just an emulator that has most of the options removed and some crummy "bonus features". That's usually the best case scenario.
 
I giggle every time a corporate stooge or paid mouthpiece or journoscum alludes to 'server costs." Hosting a file on the internet is the single cheapest thing you can do with a computer. What they're really saying is "we haven't figured out a way to squeeze yet more money out of you for it yet."
99% of the time nowadays "server costs" is a faster way of saying "holy shit this backend is way out of date and updating it might just make the whole thing melt", plus given how much of the Wii's infrastructure was largely Broadon's work and not Nintendo directly they likely had double the paranoia of the whole thing exploding if they did any form of migration or updates. Hell, just look at the hack they did to block up the shop after shutting down, they just rolled all of the underlying HTML and scripts to the state they were in 2006 with the bare minimum necessary channel downloads patched into the Wiiware list showing that they did the absolute safest bare minimum edit job to cut it down and not worry about maintenance.
 
Kill yourselves, Treehouse. Please.
That’s been Fire Emblem fans prayer for a decade now, but I am afraid those bloodsucking parasites are not going anywhere. The only hope is for all Japanese cooperation to start using AI for localization and to hell with all those filthy gaijins.

A side note: I believe I am the last person in the universe who played Star Fox 64 and I gotta say the voice acting was pretty good considering the usual “DOCTOR WAAHWEE” shit at the time.
 
That’s been Fire Emblem fans prayer for a decade now, but I am afraid those bloodsucking parasites are not going anywhere. The only hope is for all Japanese cooperation to start using AI for localization and to hell with all those filthy gaijins.

AI localization is great. Internet-based translation is very good nowadays, it's far better than it was 12 years ago and even 12 years ago was past the "bite the wax tadpole" style translations when it came to the Asian languages and could be used for very basic (if slow) communication; not the most elegant of translations but more than enough to get the point across (the specific example I was thinking of was a local article interviewing a Chinese woman who spoke no English to ask if domestic abuse happened regularly or not).

In regards to games, this thing wouldn't have been such deal if people weren't noticing current-year language being inserted into localizations and the behavior of the "localizers" when they try to defend this practice on social media.

A side note: I believe I am the last person in the universe who played Star Fox 64 and I gotta say the voice acting was pretty good considering the usual “DOCTOR WAAHWEE” shit at the time.
I don't think anyone shits on Star Fox 64's voice acting specifically especially considering the state of video game voice acting these days. Usually it's more the cheesy lines or how much the audio was compressed. (Interestingly, the compressed audio makes it less obvious that Slippy's voice actor is a woman).

I've always felt when it came to voice acting, non-professionals or obscures were better than "professionals". Deus Ex uses a lot of lesser-known VAs and I remember in one game I played, The Shivah (the "Kosher Edition"), the voice acting was from people the guy knew from community theater. The Indian woman in the game was not actually voiced by an Indian and one of the outtakes has her VA slipping into an Irish accent.

The biggest reason to why stuff like Mega Man 8 (et. al.) is legendarily awful is that many of the lines were clearly done in one take. (If you dig around the site, there's other great stuff too like Last Alert where you get lines like pronouncing "stingy" the wrong way on top of an already awkward Engrish script).
 
I don't think anyone shits on Star Fox 64's voice acting specifically especially considering the state of video game voice acting these days. Usually it's more the cheesy lines or how much the audio was compressed. (Interestingly, the compressed audio makes it less obvious that Slippy's voice actor is a woman).
Ah yeah, good ol' ADPCM. God that sounded like dog shit.

It took Rare figuring out how to cram an MP3 decoder onto the N64's poor little brain to get (reasonably) decent-sounding voice lines in large quantities onto the platform.
 
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