🐱 'No Kink at Pride:' What the Discourse Leaves Out About LGBTQ+ History

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Whose “family values'' deserve to govern all of our behaviors at an event where the LGBTQ+ community is supposed to celebrate our freedom?

A disturbing trend that seems to be gaining more credibility with each passing year is a call from some Leftist internet voices to prohibit nudity, kink, BDSM, and other expressions of sexuality from Pride festivities. The argument echoes with eerily precision that of the conservative Right, centering the discourse around children. Phrases like “family-friendly” are being weaponized in a recall to familiar anti-gay stereotypes of pedophilia and sexual predation. In fact, we are seeing it today as so-called “don’t say gay” bills sweep across the nation. To see young queer folks echo and propogate these antiquated and harmful notions is disheartening at best and dangerous to the future of LGBTQ+ liberation at worst.

There are many often shared images in this discourse. There’s photos of kids petting kinksters wearing pup gear — which, contrary to claims, involves children in no sexual acts, only exposes them to people dressed up like dogs. Another is an image of a muscular gay man wearing only a bandana to cover his genitals, as some gogo dancers are prone to do. That particular photo has gone viral multiple times, sparking debate over what attire is acceptable at these events, the politics of body image, consent, public sex and many other issues stemming from ideologies of what and who Pride is for. I was shocked to see such intense disdain for public nudity from mostly young queers.

To be fair: some of their concerns are valid, such as whether public nudity violates the consent of strangers who may not wish to see a naked body, or whether that could be triggering for those who have trauma around nakedness or body issues. But complaints that this contributes to an already oversexualized image of our community are problematic. Those making this point are either wholly or wilfully ignorant of the historical role that sex-positive and body-positive movements have played in LGBTQ+ liberation. Communities like those including BDSM practitioners, kinksters, nudists, and more have always pushed back against puritanical, conservative religious-based oppresion of queer folks since the beginning of our modern liberation movements, including at Pride events. But also, respectability politics have rarely worked out for our community at large, only benefiting the most cisheteronormative amongst us.

Another key flaw in much of this discourse, as with many that start with conservatives, is that this strawman argument is built on anomalies. The idea that there’s a pervasive issue of purposeful and inappropriate nudity at Pride parades is, quite frankly, nonsense. People occasionally appear topless, and there’s the good chance you may see butts, but videos that circulate on social media depicting live sex acts are practically always from festivals like Folsom Street Fair or other adult-only gatherings — Pride festivals have even begun to throw separate Youth Prides to target those who feel even this is too much. But, to claim that there is some widespread desire LGBTQ+ folks have to perform sex acts in front of children are talking points taken straight from the homophobic fantasies of the religious Right, that continue to feul some of the most damning homophobic legislation. It’s shameful for queer folks to buy into them, much less to disseminate them.

Many early LGBTQ+ movements were hyper-focused on assimilation, desexualization and normalization. This ideology ran a throughline from the Mattachine Society of the 1950s, all the way to the movement for marriage equality that culminated in the legalization of same-sex marriage during the Obama presidency. The trans and gender non-conforming activists, the sex workers, the Black and brown queers of the early liberation movements, all were often a thorn in the side of the mostly affluent white gays who saw the path to equality as rooted in a quiet acceptance of gay folks rather than a violent revolt against systems of oppression and inequity. In the 1980s, debates raged about the inclusion of trans folks as visible members of the community, particularly at Pride celebrations. In the 1990s the leather, kink and BDSM communities faced a similar resistance. Each time, we have found that assimilation was not the key to our progression.

If Pride is to be a “family-friendly” space, I would ask: for whose family? Family, for so many LGBTQ+ folks, is not necessarily two same-sex partners and their children in any traditional sense that stems from white heteronormativity. Creating our own families that exist on the margins is something so many of us have had to do when our biological ones rejected us. For many of us, sex workers, kinksters, nudists, and BDSM practitioners are our family.

I think back to my first Pride experience when I was fifteen. I grew up in a family where nudity was not seen as shameful, inappropriate, or as inherently sexual as it is made to be in much of the U.S. Yet, as I was young, my parents insisted on accompanying me to San Francisco on Pride Sunday. I recall standing next to my father as we both witnessed an incredibly tall person in high heels and a mini skirt bend over in a Porta-o-Potty with the door wide open, accidentally revealing their bare buttcheeks and what appeared to be a scrotum to all. This wasn’t purposeful, some attempt at sexualizing the event. In fact, my father and I exchanged a look of shock and laughed.

Those who seek to turn Pride into a space solely welcoming to the commodified, sanitized and desexualized version of LGBTQ+ culture they have deemed “family-friendly” do not actually care about children — much like the Anita Bryants and Ron DeSantis types who have oft quoted the line. They care about creating an image of queerness that does not challenge systems of oppression and inequity that still enact violence on the most marginalized among us. Their idealized vision of Pride is something that is inoffensive, commercialized, and is simply a rainbow colored walk down mainstreet erasing the Black and brown queers, the sex workers, the trans and non-binary folks, the sex and body positive radicals, the kinksters, the weirdos and the freaks from our own history. We cannot and must not let them do this.
 
oversexualized image of our community
The entire Sodomite community revolves around sex, they have apps for sex, bars for sex, clubs for sex, festivals for sex, they have subcultures for sex, they have identification markers to designate what kind of sodomy the bearer is interested in.


They are just like us, love is love, their love is just the same as your love. Don't be a bigot and remember that love is love and that to see these people as lesser or disgusting makes you a bad person. So what if your Children start crying when seeing two steroid abusers with gigantic silicone filled testicles violating each other in public? that is a sign of cisheteronormatice fascist brainwashing and your kids need to be re-educated at 12 week drag queen summer camps where the non-binary camp counselors will show them just how gender euphoria affects their girldicks.

Also America is the Great Satan, God Strike America.
 
There’s photos of kids petting kinksters wearing pup gear — which, contrary to claims, involves children in no sexual acts, only exposes them to people dressed up like dogs
This isn't how this works. Grown men dressing up in kink-gear, acting out kink roles IN PUBLIC NO LESS, and those men freely allowing children to touch and interact with them WHILE THEY ARE IN KINK GEAR/KINK "MODE"

IS EXACTLY THAT. YOU'RE INVOLVING CHILDREN INTO IT.

Why is this still even a "discourse"??? Every Pride event that ever existed has been an oversexualized mess of "Look at me, society! I don't care about morality or modesty!!"
The fact that people willingly bring their kids to events while KNOWING that there is NSFW/18+ shit going on will always be disgusting, doesn't fucking matter. If weeb conventions take so much time policing their younger attendees from going into 18+ panels, or buying 18+ material from sellers in the vendors hall, then why the fuck do we just allow this with the LGBT shit? Fucking Clown World extreme.
 
People are seeing that giving faggots "rights" was a mistake. In 15 years times, they went from "I just want to marry" to being upset they cannot teach 6 year olds about anal sex. They're pedophiles and groomers, always were. Then, they have the rapist troons as their biggest "ally."
And now all the "normal" ones want to cry foul and say "It's not us! I'm one of the good ones!"

You're not. If you need to tell me you're gay like it gives you some special insight into society you're just as mentally deranged as the rest of them. I don't need to suck dick to know that being a faggot is wrong.
 
The kink at Pride debate is never going to stop because the fetishy weirdos have already carved it out as a safe space for their exhibitionism, you can't put that cat back in the bag. Either Pride needs to clamp down on the degeneracy or they need to make it an adults-only event behind closed doors. They're not going to convince people that explicit sexuality is appropriate for kids, schools are already learning that the hard way.
 
And now all the "normal" ones want to cry foul and say "It's not us! I'm one of the good ones!"

You're not. If you need to tell me you're gay like it gives you some special insight into society you're just as mentally deranged as the rest of them. I don't need to suck dick to know that being a faggot is wrong.
Was having my "PSA be safe on the internet its full of weirdos" talk with my 12 year old nephew today. Got cut off at the knees when he said "yeah if their Roblox profile says gay I just block them lol."

Based.
 
The homophile will of course still be driven by the animalistic desire to reproduce and, being unable to engage in congress to procreate, instead create a new homophile through access of a child. Then, naturally, having gained "societal acceptance", they will seek to gain more access to children.

It's really simple.
 
I think a lot of people are just starting to realize that in the push to normalize gay culture, they failed to reconcile so much of it is inherently sexual.

You see all these people who want to "be an ally" by dressing their kids up in rainbow clothes and marching in a parade, but find themselves pulling the breaks cause maybe it's a good idea to keep your kid away from public spectacles including bondage gear and leather harnesses.

But because these people literally can't imagine a world where they don't get to make everything about themselves and virtue signal, it’s on the gays who have to reform.
 
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Does matter if kids know or not if it's sexual, all that matters if the adults know. It's why i say gas all furfags they do the same shit going up to kids with their fetish gear on
 
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