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Honey, trust me, a lot of the T hates roughly 50% of the T in lgbt.
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Megathread Non-binary genders / Enbies - When Male and Female Aren't Special Enough
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I know this guy irl, your pretty standard kinda effeminate gay dude--regular dude name, bleach blond hair, has a couple piercings, wears button down shirts, painted his nails in our club room once. Whatever, that's fine.
But yesterday I looked at his page and it says he's a 'demiguy' and prefers 'they/them' (and is bisexual). It's hard for me to understand. What makes you not just a regular bi dude, bro? I wonder if this is at all because, as has already been discussed, white gay men are considered 'privileged'.
But yesterday I looked at his page and it says he's a 'demiguy' and prefers 'they/them' (and is bisexual). It's hard for me to understand. What makes you not just a regular bi dude, bro? I wonder if this is at all because, as has already been discussed, white gay men are considered 'privileged'.
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Every person who I have seen using it is an AFAB person who doesn't want to be an 'icky oppressive man' and subsequently lose oppression points, but doesn't want to be an 'evil cis lesbian either'.
Honey, you got a big storm comin'.
If you decide one day you want in the cool 'transgender kweer treehouse', but you're perfectly happy with your tits, or you're a guy trying to get into some poor lesbian's pants, you declare yourself transgender.
If someone asks you why you're transgender but you don't wear anything other than a dress, or won't stop talking about your girldick, you slam them with the 'truscum' comment.
You are declared a medical, evil gatekeeper, and kicked out of the kweer community forever.
Yeah, I was telling family that at Thanksgiving when they went down the "how can you not want people to be saved from suicide who have such terrible disconnects between their body and mind?" path. When confronted with the idea that this is now considered "scum" doctrine and super regressive, they said, oh, surely that's just a few trans trolls on the internet that believe that?
No amount of showing them that every big trans organization now denies that dysphoria is required for trans status would convince them that this is now the standard rhetoric that they'll be expected to adhere to. I feel like this whole charade will come apart when people realize that's actually the new agenda.
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It's interesting. I've got a friend who's almost 40 and is trans and they can't stand the younger ones on Tumblr because how angry they are and their attitude to cis people.
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I've met exactly two "non-binary" people in my life, both sitting on opposite extremes.
1. You may remember this person from the "I Caught a Shitlord THIS BIG" thread (archive link from the OP). I mentioned in that thread that I know them personally and they're not nearly as preachy and Tumblr-y IRL. We haven't talked in a while but back when we used to work together, they would often say, "You can call me anything, so long as it's not 'it'!" Elliott's presentation changed all the time, though they seem to have settled on something right in between, so their gender fluidity seems genuine. They started HRT earlier this year apparently, but they're still going by whatever pronouns for the time being.
2. Another coworker of mine. Don't get me wrong, I love her to pieces, she's a very sweet person, but her reasoning for saying that she's NB appears to be that she likes having short hair and she likes video games. And also she claims to be asexual and lithromantic. It all just reeks of me-too-itis, she makes no attempt at neutrality outside of short hair, she's otherwise the girliest girl to ever girl. And it's kind of annoying to hear someone go on about how their family doesn't accept their made-up identity when some other members of the Alphabet Soup don't have the luxury of super-liberal parents that will just say "that's nice, honey" when they talk about having a crush they don't want reciprocated or whatever.
TL ; DR sometimes it's genuine and sometimes it's Tumblrinas making shit up for attention, more news at 11.
1. You may remember this person from the "I Caught a Shitlord THIS BIG" thread (archive link from the OP). I mentioned in that thread that I know them personally and they're not nearly as preachy and Tumblr-y IRL. We haven't talked in a while but back when we used to work together, they would often say, "You can call me anything, so long as it's not 'it'!" Elliott's presentation changed all the time, though they seem to have settled on something right in between, so their gender fluidity seems genuine. They started HRT earlier this year apparently, but they're still going by whatever pronouns for the time being.
2. Another coworker of mine. Don't get me wrong, I love her to pieces, she's a very sweet person, but her reasoning for saying that she's NB appears to be that she likes having short hair and she likes video games. And also she claims to be asexual and lithromantic. It all just reeks of me-too-itis, she makes no attempt at neutrality outside of short hair, she's otherwise the girliest girl to ever girl. And it's kind of annoying to hear someone go on about how their family doesn't accept their made-up identity when some other members of the Alphabet Soup don't have the luxury of super-liberal parents that will just say "that's nice, honey" when they talk about having a crush they don't want reciprocated or whatever.
TL ; DR sometimes it's genuine and sometimes it's Tumblrinas making shit up for attention, more news at 11.
One Man Bland
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You forgot the watering down of the term "terf" to be applied to pretty much any gay dude or lesbian who says they aren't interested in bestowing sex to every danger hair Tumblr troon and guilt-trippy "proud trans womyn" that flirts with them, and the "we need to make gay bars more ace friendly and gets rid of all that icky alcohol and those fucking sluts" asexuals.
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Don't forget white SJWs crying "white feminist" and "white TERF" at women who are concerned with abortion rights, maternity leave, and contraception as primary feminist issues. I don't know why whiteness has anything to do with it (those issues used to be considered very what is now called "intersectional"), but that's the standard put-down.
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Caring more about issues outside of having a black girl character in popular nerd franchise means you are white and don't care about women.
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damn those evil people who care about more important issues!!
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I'm gonna guess that he's unknowingly bowing to social pressure to change his labels. It seems really innocent + progressive on the surface, and that's what makes this kind of shit dangerous and harmful. Glitched Puppet, who has her own thread here, did a big fucking thing about how much she hates gay men. Nobody on Tumblr even batted an eye. It's a huge change from how things were a few years ago when that kind of behavior would have been (rightfully) labeled as homophobic/transphobic.
Several older LGBT folks I know stay far, far away from Tumblr and online communities. They're angry and humiliated. The toxic ideology, gatekeeping, and exclusionist rhetoric is undoing their lifetime of work to advance LGBT rights and representation.
A Tumblr genderspecial was starting shit in another community I participate in because they felt that caring about issues that impact only 'natal' women like abortion rights, maternity leave, and contraception is inherently discriminatory. They were triggered again when another user mentioned having a difficult menstrual cycle, along the lines of "well at least you get one!!1!". They ended up being removed from the group. I wish I had taken screenshots at the time, that shit was fantastic.
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I feel like a lot of the tumblr genderspecials are chasers. A lot of them want to date trans men because they're not "icky cis men".
i mean people who aren't trans dating people who are trans isn't a big deal, but if you seek out trans men because they're "not evil cis men" that are "problematic" and has "toxic masculinity" ingrained in his brain, it seems a lot like you don't see trans men as men, if all men are problematic?
i mean people who aren't trans dating people who are trans isn't a big deal, but if you seek out trans men because they're "not evil cis men" that are "problematic" and has "toxic masculinity" ingrained in his brain, it seems a lot like you don't see trans men as men, if all men are problematic?
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I'm nonbinary racefluid niggerkin and my pronouns are tro/lo/lol. Die cis scum.
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When are they going to realize that the concept of a masculine/feminine non binary doesn't make a lick of sense considering it's definition? Also, what's the difference between a nonbinary and an agender? I figured they were the same thing and they were just making up more words.
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There's like three different definitions of agender but 'nonbinary' just means 'not binary' which is ~anything not 100% man or woman"~. Arguably that means anyone could ID as nonbinary, so the term is meaningless.
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Agender is supposed to be a variant of nonbinary.
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I went through the he/him tag and I lost count of the amount of times I've seen girls who look like they're doing it just for fashion and not gender. Also why do they all have the same god damn hairstyle?
Same
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Hair.
Same
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Hair.
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I remember a time when my mom saw me getting fascinated by some of the "non-conformist" types at my high school. And she asked me, if they're such non-conformists who are so different from everyone ... why are they all dressed exactly alike?
It was a good object lesson, and one I didn't need repeated. Someone should make sure to point out to kids who have started to aspire to this sort of "I don't caaaare what anyone thinks about me, how do you like THAT mom and dad?!" non-binary thing that these kids care just as much what their very conformist sub-group thinks of their aesthetic choices as the cheerleaders care about the other cheerleaders.
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They really do seem like anime fans who are trying to copy the Japanese animated version of males. Right down to the hair. I saw a couple who were into anime. In my day it was "angsty goth", later on it was emo, then scene kids. Now it's genderqueer. Interesting.
Can we talk about the ones who call themselves "trans boys" or "trans boi" but look 100 percent female, wear makeup and girl clothes, yet try to call themselves he/him?