Megathread Non-binary genders / Enbies - When Male and Female Aren't Special Enough

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but people with binary gender identities refer to themselves with gendered language all the time because that's who they are. why is their expression of their gender identity invalid? i don't understand this at all.
 
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LMAO I view the different gender emojis as unnecessary, but not because its NBphobic or what these people want to call it. It's simply because only having gender neutral emojis would save so much space, making the right emoji so much easier to find. This guy though, why don't you just say you hate emojis and prefer emoticons?
 
>Non binary people who use she/her or he/him are valid
Does this mean I, though a cis female, can claim the non binary label, not use the pronouns, and be valid? I thought the point of being non binary was not using male or female pronouns/identifying with either gender.
Asking gothfruits may give you the answer straight from the cow source
 
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Isn't your appearance not supposed to be indicative of your gender or something? They can't make up their minds
 
Sorry in advance for double-posting, but something struck me.
Can asexuals be considered incels in some situations?
 
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So is it misgendering if you refer to a "non binary" person as "they" or "them"? What about those infamous "he/him lesbians", is it misgendering if you refer to them as "she/her", even though they're women?

Turns out language doesn't actually mean anything, you can just say any words that you like and get offended when other people do the same.
 
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So is it misgendering if you refer to a "non binary" person as "they" or "them"? What about those infamous "he/him lesbians", is it misgendering if you refer to them as "she/her", even though they're women?

Turns out language doesn't actually mean anything, you can just say any words that you like and get offended when other people do the same.
1). He/him lesbians do not exist. Just putting that out there.
2). I thought they/them pronouns were one of the hallmarks of being a non-binary? Or at least, anything except he/him and she/her?
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Nothing is sacred anymore. The rules of English mean nothing.
By the way... That URL though.
 

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So is it misgendering if you refer to a "non binary" person as "they" or "them"? What about those infamous "he/him lesbians", is it misgendering if you refer to them as "she/her", even though they're women?

Turns out language doesn't actually mean anything, you can just say any words that you like and get offended when other people do the same.
This feels like the kind of person who polices for people they like but will complain about those nonbinary folk who they don't. If you don't know Steven Universe Creator Rebecca Sugar is nonbinary and in articles interviewers and writers have used she/her and people have been saying she's appropriating the nonbinary label. Either you all use the neutral they/them or you stick to your gender pronouns. You can't have both.
 
This feels like the kind of person who polices for people they like but will complain about those nonbinary folk who they don't. If you don't know Steven Universe Creator Rebecca Sugar is nonbinary and in articles interviewers and writers have used she/her and people have been saying she's appropriating the nonbinary label. Either you all use the neutral they/them or you stick to your gender pronouns. You can't have both.

Rebecca may just do that to not generate that much controversy in her interviews maybe? I don't get the nonbinary thing at all, and I hope it's just a fad and goes away in at most a few years, but in this case I could see why she still uses she/her for work related stuff.

On the other hand the little I know about her makes me think she just says she is non-binary because she is NGC (and not that much in that regard) bisexual woman and in this age that automatically certifies you as a non-woman it seems.
 
On the other hand the little I know about her makes me think she just says she is non-binary because she is NGC (and not that much in that regard) bisexual woman and in this age that automatically certifies you as a non-woman it seems.

I do find it funny that the exact same people who (used to?) say "Clothes aren't gendered! Let boys play with dolls! Let girls play sports!" will insist that they're non-binary or a femme trans boy because they have short hair. Though fair's fair, they definitely stick to the "gender isn't defined by clothing" when they're trying to argue how wearing makeup and taking selfies with their tits out doesn't make them a woman.

A friend of mine identified as non-binary for a while. I didn't make any sort of deal about it, because she was never obnoxious about it and didn't go in for the whole cis privilege thing, and I figured she'd forget about it soon enough. And recently she told me that she doesn't really care any more how people refer to her in terms of pronouns or gender. Which is nice. No drama, just realising it didn't change anything about how she dressed or acted, so there wasn't any point to it.

I guess it's different though if they're surrounded by the "we hate cis" crowd, because then none of them wants to admit that they're just ordinary (straight) white girls. So they have to have a little thing on their profiles saying they're non-binary, and occassionally post a tearful post about how someone online referred to them as a woman, but otherwise they just carry on with their lives as normal. But they can't ever actually take that last step to let go, because they've spent so much of their activism time insisting that if you're not trans then you're transphobic that they know their friends would instantly turn on them. Their identity isn't their gender any more, it's their gender activism. So they just have to keep stretching the definition of what "non-binary" means until it means even less than it did before. They all have to keep playing pretend, or end up as punching bags, even more so if they're prominent figures in the community.

It just sounds exhausting. I'd feel sorry for those people if they weren't so hateful themselves.
 
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