Megathread Non-binary genders / Enbies - When Male and Female Aren't Special Enough

[Jacques1194]

There's no Trans Institute and no Trans Pope so there's no central dogma; the "standard" evolves constantly and without warning, to the point where a blog post from four years ago will be transphobic now because it used "trans*" as was the style at the time. But the US Government is going to regulate a protected class that can be opted into, verbally, by anyone, without fanfare or straightforward public discussion. It's like the opposite of the 1960s civil rights movement.

This is what gets me about the whole thing with non-binary. (and trans in general) There's no way someone can test this to see if its even a real thing. Even in studies about trans brains its never brought up at all. What I also find bizarre is that trans people argue that being a man or a woman is how much testosterone or estrogen one produces. Their argument is that their "woman brain" is producing estrogen and they need to take HRT so that their body matches their brain. Non binary can't even be a real thing because by saying you're neither a man nor a woman is basically saying your brain doesn't produce either testosterone or estrogen. Which is....impossible because the brain needs a little bit of both. From the first article I searched.

Testosterone appears to activate a distributed cortical network, the ventral processing stream, during spatial cognition tasks, and addition of testosterone improves spatial cognition in younger and older hypogonadal men. In addition, reduced testosterone is associated with depressive disorders.

Now let's look at estrogen.

What's less well-known is that lower estrogen levels can also harm the brain. Research shows that a decrease in estrogen is associated with decreased gray matter in the brain. Gray matter changes are found in the regions of the brain tied to Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia

So unless non binaries want to admit that they have dementia then how does their brain function then?

 

[Aunt Carol]

Their argument is that their "woman brain" is producing estrogen and they need to take HRT so that their body matches their brain. Non binary can't even be a real thing because by saying you're neither a man nor a woman is basically saying your brain doesn't produce either testosterone or estrogen. Which is....impossible because the brain needs a little bit of both. From the first article I searched.

It's only this medical argument when it suits them.

Other times, this take is "transmedicalist" wrongthink and the whole trans thing is due to a nebulous gender-soul and none of it is medical at all... except for the part where we the people need to pay for them to have breasts added/removed.

Again: no central authority, no set dogma other than what XYZ group of loud gender-people want today.

Nonbinaries are difficult for the medical trans theory, but taking them seriously in the metaphysical trans theory is questionable too. If a nonbinary person pines to be and be seen as something that never existed before, how is that different from an otherkin who cries about their phantom wings?

 

[Wallace]

For someone who hates men and claims to be asexual, Anna sure loves dick.



It’s been three months almost and I’m like WHERE IS THE TDICK FAIRY AT???

 

[Trombonista]

Back when I used tumblr, I remember "truscum" being divided on whether nonbinary genders were valid. They all agreed what are now called "xenogenders" (like stargender) were bullshit, though.

 

[Gorton Colu]

Back when I used tumblr, ....

I'm glad you have recovered.

The entirety of all of this nonsense is a power fantasy to make others bow to their ever changing desires.

 

[Jacques1194]

Back when I used tumblr, I remember "truscum" being divided on whether nonbinary genders were valid. They all agreed what are now called "xenogenders" (like stargender) were bullshit, though.

Its really interesting to me how these people can pick and choose which genders are valid and which ones are bullshit when in the end none of them can be proven. Like sure stargender sounds insane, but how is that any different than someone saying that they're neither male nor female? What about genderfluid where someone can be a man one day and then other days be a different gender? Like above said, nonbinary people pines to be and be seen as something that never existed before. How is that any different from a xenogender when they can't prove if both genders are really valid?

 

[and I must scream]

Its really interesting to me how these people can pick and choose which genders are valid and which ones are bullshit when in the end none of them can be proven. Like sure stargender sounds insane, but how is that any different than someone saying that they're neither male nor female? What about genderfluid where someone can be a man one day and then other days be a different gender? Like above said, nonbinary people pines to be and be seen as something that never existed before. How is that any different from a xenogender when they can't prove if both gender are really valid?

They claim there always have been non-binary people. I've seen two claims about it:
1. Such people always existed, only the label didn't.
2. Non-binary people exist in different non-Western cultures.

Both claims are bullshit imo, since:
1. There have been people who felt they are not fitting neatly into the strict stereotypes of any of the two sexes (genders), that does not mean they are "non binary" and that "non binary" exists.
2. No they don't. "Third gender" are nothing like the "non-binary" of the West.

But that's what they claim, anyway.

Much harder to claim xenogender people always existed... Although I would not be surprised if there are people who claim that these things did exist, and that the fact that people put on themselves animal skins to intimidate the enemy for example is a clear evidence to the existence of xenogender throughout cultures and history.

 

[Aunt Carol]

1. Such people always existed, only the label didn't.

1. There have been people who felt they are not fitting neatly into the strict stereotypes of any of the two sexes (genders), that does not mean they are "non binary" and that "non binary" exists.

And you have to admit, if those mannish women or womanish men were "non-binary," they sure were doing a lot better for themselves before they had this label.

This label to hide behind, to obsess about, to divide. If they don't have gender to distract them, a GNC woman or man just gets along with what they were doing before, the thing that made them GNC in the world's eyes to begin with. Fixin' small motors, sewing for historical reenactment, just being really into trains. Nonbinaries have no attributes beyond the nonbinary they insist on; there's no substance to them, so they have to cry louder and obsess about it.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

Crosspost from A+N:

Nonbinary trans U.S. House candidate injects testosterone in campaign ad​

A transgender and nonbinary candidate for U.S. House from Louisiana has posted a campaign ad in which they inject testosterone.

Mel Manuel is a Democrat running against anti-LGBTQ+ Republican incumbent Steve Scalise in the state’s First Congressional District, which includes New Orleans and surrounding areas. In the ad, posted to social media, Manuel wears a T-shirt printed with “My Body My Choice” and makes the point that democracy is at stake in this year’s election.

“The toxic forces of fear and hatred are threatening to consume our nation,” Manuel says. “If we don’t take a stand, the November election could be the last gasp of democratic freedom as we know it. I believe that you, not the government, own your own body.” They then inject the testosterone and say, “LGBTQ rights are human rights.”

Manuel is the director of operations for the Louisiana Abortion Fund and the co-director of Queer Northshore. They were a founding member of the St. Tammany Library Alliance and currently serve on the executive committee of the Louisiana Democratic Party. They also have 15 years of experience teaching in the public schools.

In addition to their advocacy for LGBTQ+ equality and reproductive freedom, Manuel’s key issues include improving public education, raising teacher salaries, and establishing a universal basic income program.

“Not only is pay low here, but conditions in schools are absolutely terrible for the majority of educators. The only way we’re going to attract the best teachers is if we pay competitive salaries,” Manuel recently told The Center Square, a nonprofit news organization.

Her real name is Melissa Manuel:

https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Melissa-Manuel/-1840958248
https://archive.ph/TBKSp
The school she was listed as working for, University View Academy, is actually mostly online school. She's been scrubbed from their staff page, but there's still a picture of her on their site:

https://www.universityview.academy/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/manuel-mel.jpg
https://archive.ph/AS14g

Linktree: https://www.mel4louisiana.com/linktree
Twitter: https://x.com/Mel4Louisiana
Her campaign website: https://www.mel4louisiana.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mel4louisiana/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mel4louisiana
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/melftastic/

Her Ballotpedia entry:

Mel Manuel was born in Covington, Louisiana. Manuel earned a high school diploma from Covington High School, a graduate degree from La Sapienza University in 2009, and a bachelor's degree from Tulane University in 2006. Manuel's career experience includes working as a public school teacher. Manuel co-founded Queer Northshore and has been a board member and spokesperson for St. Tammany Library Alliance.[1]

https://archive.ph/XX369

Her Queer Northshore profile:

She's enough of a weeb that she picked Inari as her new middle name.

She talks about being 'queer' since she was 8, and how that was forbidden in her horrible conservative family's church:

https://www.tiktok.com/@mel4louisiana/video/7408781139252464926

Like all true queers, she's a straight woman who was married to a man:

https://archive.ph/Ev8cc

https://archive.ph/rxdIN

She hates being shown porn on facebook, but she loves Drag Queen storytime.

And yes, she forces people to look at her weird body in public:

https://www.instagram.com/mel4louisiana/reel/CtZu9YrMl7v/

And while kids can't handle too much discipline and homework, they can handle experimental sex changes:

https://x.com/Mel4Louisiana/status/1747695383902318596
https://archive.ph/66vhc

She's in charge of a GSA, and frequently organizes awkward-looking swim parties for queer kids:

https://x.com/Mel4Louisiana/status/1655638858430570523
https://archive.ph/qHXDl
The blatant grooming gets worse when you realize she has a 13 year old daughter.

And the funny thing is, she's a Spanish teacher:

https://archive.ph/toLxg
She's teaching an incredibly gendered Romance language, and she's insisting that kids call her "Profe".

 

[Muskcarpone]

Oldie but goldie.

 

[TruffleSpark]

 

[Bloo]

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Maybe it’s because I’m sleep deprived but I have no clue what this is supposed to mean.

 

[DefCon Dumb]

Maybe it’s because I’m sleep deprived but I have no clue what this is supposed to mean.

Thank you. New to transgender shit and am trying to figure them out because I’m regretfully in a position where I have to deal with 2 of them… an MtF and a FtM.

Their appropriation of language and constantly inventing new meanings for well understood words was I thought, a trait that these 2 shared but wasn’t that common. Clearly I was wrong.

The self description above is still meaningless to me. Too many words, not enough meaning.

 

[Bloo]

Thank you. New to transgender shit and am trying to figure them out because I’m regretfully in a position where I have to deal with 2 of them… an MtF and a FtM.

Their appropriation of language and constantly inventing new meanings for well understood words was I thought, a trait that these 2 shared but wasn’t that common. Clearly I was wrong.

The self description above is still meaningless to me. Too many words, not enough meaning.

It seems like they’re implying that non binary people date racists but they don’t at all. They’re notoriously uwu woke left-wing types.

They’re incredibly confusing people.

 

[Muskcarpone]

Maybe it’s because I’m sleep deprived but I have no clue what this is supposed to mean.

Don't overthink it. Just imagine this couple introducing themselves to you at a party or something, using these exact same words. Made me chuckle.

 

[melty]

It seems like they’re implying that non binary people date racists but they don’t at all. They’re notoriously uwu woke left-wing types.

They’re incredibly confusing people.

I think the joke is that there's a lot of these relationships where the woman is into confusing wordvomit gendershit and the guy is just a normal guy and doesn't care about it at all. The guys obviously don't see them as nonbinary or w/e and just pay it lip service. A lot of those guys have very unwoke views but simply don't talk about them to the nutty women so that the pussy tap stays on.

 

[Aunt Carol]

A lot of those guys have very unwoke views but simply don't talk about them to the nutty women so that the pussy tap stays on.

This is the interpretation I had. Remember "I hate minorities" is just Tumblr-speak for a dude who didn't immediately log into his social media accounts and add a Palestinian flag emoji at the cue.

Remember how skeptical you are when a socjus person calls someone a "bigot" without elaborating.

 

[Jacques1194]

The internet was a mistake.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The internet was a mistake.
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Can't be special while dating the opposite gender unless you make it gay, of course. Need to make love felt by you and only you special.

 

[Wallace]

It's never good enough for Anna. (image upload isn't working for some reason.)

Spoiler: text

Trans mascs will be like “ugh why does everyone infantalize me when I talk about mental health stuff” and then IMMEDIATELY infantalize trans mascs who are newer to transitioning than they are.

I’m 12 weeks on T, and the next time a trans guy tells me to chill out because HRT is a second puberty and a couple years from now I’ll have everything figured out… I stg I’m going to punch a hole in the fucking moon. I’m fucking 42 and I have a twelve year old for Christ’s sake. I fucking KNOW how puberty works, thanks. God forbid I should complain about early HRT being weird and stressful, or try to ask questions about very specific transition things.

So yeah. If you hate being infantalized, trans mascs, maybe stop doing it to other trans mascs?????

So Anna's 42, has a 12 year old kid, and she's spent the last three months in an absolute frenzy of writing tens of thousands of words of FFXIV yaoi and posting it to her Tumblr. But don't you dare call her a woman!