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He asked Drew Barrymore if she misses cocaine.
Is it weird that this moment intrigued more than literally any teaser for any Netflix show ever?
Is it weird that this moment intrigued more than literally any teaser for any Netflix show ever?
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Apparently he made some of Fallon's staff cry with his comments, that's how big a bunch of faggots they are. Odd, how it's such a faux pas to make nobody producers cry, while Barr's tears don't matter.
Norm also took time out of his day to tear into that fucking shithouse Hannah Gadsby Netflix special the chattering class have been jizzing all over, because he's amazing.
US comedian Norm Macdonald's appearance onThe Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon has been hastily cancelled after he stirred controversy with his #MeToo remarks in a recent Hollywood Reporter interview.
In the article, Macdonald referred to how Louis C.K., Chris Hardwick and Roseanne Barr have been treated recently, saying he's "happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a little bit".
"It used to be, 'One hundred women can't be lying.' And then it became, 'One woman can't lie.' And that became, 'I believe all women.' And then you're like, 'What?' Like, that Chris Hardwick guy I really thought got the blunt end of the stick there," Macdonald said.
Macdonald also said that he felt Barr was treated harshly in the storm that ensued after she likened Valerie Jarrett to an ape in an early morning tweet in May.
She was sacked and her Roseanne sitcom revival was cancelled within hours (it was ultimately revived as The Conners without Barr's involvement).
Macdonald, who got his start as a writer working on Barr's original ABC series, described Barr's struggle with the swirl of events.
"But she was just so broken and just crying constantly. There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, 'What about the victims?' But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that," Macdonald said.
Macdonald took to Twitter to apologise for his comments but NBC has pushed ahead with its decision. "Out of sensitivity to our audience and in light of Norm Macdonald's comments in the press today, The Tonight Show has decided to cancel his appearance," NBC said in a statement.
In his apology tweet, Macdonald said both Barr and C.K. were good friends of his who'd made terrible mistake. "I would never defend their actions," he said. "If my words sounded like I was minimizing the pain that their victims feel to this day, I am deeply sorry."
Macdonald also expressed his thoughts about Hannah Gadsby's viral hit Nanette, describing some of her messaging in the performance as "a slap in the face".
"I have never seen the Nanette thing because I never wanted to comment on it. But from what I have read about it, [Gadsby] is saying that comedy is now not about laughter," Macdonald said. "Of course that's a slap in the face of a traditional stand-up comedian who thinks that comedy by dictionary definition is about laughter. And that that's your job. You actually do have a job onstage.
"Nanette doesn't sound like stand-up to me. That sounds like a one-woman show. And one-person shows are, to me, incredibly powerful. But it's not stand-up comedy and it's not the same thing."
Macdonald's upcoming Netflix show, Norm Macdonald Has a Show, is due to premiere on the platform on Friday.
In the article, Macdonald referred to how Louis C.K., Chris Hardwick and Roseanne Barr have been treated recently, saying he's "happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a little bit".
"It used to be, 'One hundred women can't be lying.' And then it became, 'One woman can't lie.' And that became, 'I believe all women.' And then you're like, 'What?' Like, that Chris Hardwick guy I really thought got the blunt end of the stick there," Macdonald said.
Macdonald also said that he felt Barr was treated harshly in the storm that ensued after she likened Valerie Jarrett to an ape in an early morning tweet in May.
She was sacked and her Roseanne sitcom revival was cancelled within hours (it was ultimately revived as The Conners without Barr's involvement).
Macdonald, who got his start as a writer working on Barr's original ABC series, described Barr's struggle with the swirl of events.
"But she was just so broken and just crying constantly. There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, 'What about the victims?' But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that," Macdonald said.
Macdonald took to Twitter to apologise for his comments but NBC has pushed ahead with its decision. "Out of sensitivity to our audience and in light of Norm Macdonald's comments in the press today, The Tonight Show has decided to cancel his appearance," NBC said in a statement.
In his apology tweet, Macdonald said both Barr and C.K. were good friends of his who'd made terrible mistake. "I would never defend their actions," he said. "If my words sounded like I was minimizing the pain that their victims feel to this day, I am deeply sorry."
Macdonald also expressed his thoughts about Hannah Gadsby's viral hit Nanette, describing some of her messaging in the performance as "a slap in the face".
"I have never seen the Nanette thing because I never wanted to comment on it. But from what I have read about it, [Gadsby] is saying that comedy is now not about laughter," Macdonald said. "Of course that's a slap in the face of a traditional stand-up comedian who thinks that comedy by dictionary definition is about laughter. And that that's your job. You actually do have a job onstage.
"Nanette doesn't sound like stand-up to me. That sounds like a one-woman show. And one-person shows are, to me, incredibly powerful. But it's not stand-up comedy and it's not the same thing."
Macdonald's upcoming Netflix show, Norm Macdonald Has a Show, is due to premiere on the platform on Friday.
Apparently he made some of Fallon's staff cry with his comments, that's how big a bunch of faggots they are. Odd, how it's such a faux pas to make nobody producers cry, while Barr's tears don't matter.
Norm also took time out of his day to tear into that fucking shithouse Hannah Gadsby Netflix special the chattering class have been jizzing all over, because he's amazing.
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A professional humorologist who writes for Samantha Bee's full frontal opines on Norm
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I hope not. I know it's wildly optimistic, but I hope these cunts doing this to Norm allows (((the people in charge))) to see that they have no impact on what the rest of the country thinks. I mean just based on norm's track record he's fucked, but I can dream can't I?
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Who knows? If Netflix buckles when a bunch of faggots cry about something so mundane then there's no hope for mainstream entertainment.
Also, I love how Norm brings up that Bill Clinton killed a guy.
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It's over for Norm. RRRREEEEEE is on the case. His Netflix show is already dead.
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Despite noticing the phenomenon, he didn't learn the lesson that you never fucking apologize to these people.
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I'm excited to see David Letterman be funny again since his Netflix show looks absolute pants. That fucking beard, though.
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Norm himself has admitted he's not well-informed when it comes to politics. He seems like the kind of guy who has better things to do than screech all day on Twitter. Like being funny.A professional humorologist who writes for Samantha Bee's full frontal opines on Norm
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The thread that follows is full of this dumb broad and other morons not getting Norm's shtick, which must mean it's RAYCIST or just not funny, because no one, apparently, is capable of getting dry sarcasm; they must only "get" if something is sarcasm if it's heavy handed and spoonfed to them (obviously why the OP writes for Samantha Bee's show).
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I like how she openly admits she automatically assumes a joke is racist/sexist and gets angry if she doesn't understand it. Explains a lot about female "comedians."
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It seems like the only comediennes that get pushed to the front by the establishment are the hopelessly unfunny ones, who only serve to stand there and talk down to you like “u r raycis, sweety :-))))”
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And why, by and large, they're not funny.
SJWism makes anyone not funny. Funny is against the cult belief system.
Sarah Silverman used to be one of the cases of a genuinely hilarious female comic until SJWism, largely because of just being willing to do anything for a laugh, including being incredibly offensive. No more. David Cross is a male example of this, and he used to be half of Mr. Show (incidentally Sarah Silverman during the funny part of her career was also involved in Mr. Show).
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The I'm Not Norm channel posted that they're with Norm.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/norm-...elle-wolf-had-a-great-one-why-are-we-settling
Norm Macdonald Has a (Terrible) Show. Michelle Wolf Had a Great One. Why Are We Settling?
I honestly can’t believe we’re talking about Norm Macdonald.
We’ve been talking about him a lot lately, in the wake of a baffling, repeatedly offensive press tour that has managed to slight the women stepping forward in the #MeToo movement, Hannah Gadsby, the trans community, people forced to have non-consensual sex, people who have consensual sex, and Lena Dunham—at the same time staunchly defending Louis C.K. and Roseanne.
The occasion for this ticker tape of stupid is the 58-year-old comedian’s promotional tour for his new Netflix talk show, which is out today and called Norm Macdonald Has a Show. The title is supposed to be meta and cute, perhaps referencing the bare-bones, conversational format of the series. But in the wake of these comments, and after screening a handful of the first batch of episodes, the title now reads as more of a taunt: Jesus Christ, Norm Macdonald has a show.
Should I be surprised that Norm Macdonald is out there shilling a shitty show? Norm Macdonald kind of always has a shitty show.
If it isn’t Norm Macdonald, it’s someone I probably confused him for, or is kind of like him. Someone like Norm Macdonald kind of always has a shitty show. We’ve resigned ourselves to this Hollywood truth. As Melanie McFarland wrote in an excellent Salon piece on this very topic, “The world has always been ruled by some version of Norm Macdonald. That’s why so many people love him.”
Perhaps we even watch these shitty shows, maybe because we’re fans, or maybe because we think that’s the thing we’re supposed to do. But, like, what if we just... didn’t? Better yet, what if they—the proverbial “they”—just stopped making them?
Less than a month ago, Netflix canceled Michelle Wolf’s talk show. Now, the streaming service is parading this guy around.
Should that be irritating? There are many reasons behind one show’s cancellation and another show’s inception, and the two may have absolutely nothing to do with each other. But, subjectively and independently of that, God yes, it should be maddening.
The Break, Wolf’s short-lived Netflix show, was a sharply written, carefully planned, high-production gem, a valuable and critically valued descendant ofThe Daily Show with a necessary point of view. (A woman’s!)
It was a series that found its sea legs with impressive speed, made news, provided lacerating insights, and had genuine potential. And Wolf herself has proven a strong, special personality in the world of entertainment, both shooting to stardom and weathering the ensuing media storm with a fearless, barbed club-swinging White House Correspondents Dinner set.
I kept thinking about how all that has been canceled while watching the first few episodes of Norm Macdonald Has a Show, a haphazard “here’s Norm talking to someone” free for all, and got angry all over again.
That name became a taunt again. Norm Macdonald has a show! Here it is! LOL! David Spade literally recounts the plot of The Larry Sanders Show, Norm Macdonald interrupts with a joke about a hooker, and sidekick Adam Eget just giggles maniacally off-frame. That’s the show! G’night folks!
Norm Macdonald has a show and Michelle Wolf does not. That’s aggravating.
It’s aggravating because of what Wolf’s show and her material contributed to the national discourse, and the utter pointlessness of what’s happening on Macdonald’s series. And it’s aggravating that this is the show we’re given in the wake of Macdonald’s controversial comments this week. All that... for this?
In The Hollywood Reporter this week, he said he’s “happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a bit” because the “I believe all women” response was getting out of hand. He made a plea for extreme sympathy for Louis C.K. and Roseanne in the wake of their career fallouts. “There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day,” he said. “Of course, people will go, ‘What about the victims?’ But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that.”
Macdonald later apologized for this in a tweet, and told Howard Stern that “you’d have to have Down syndrome to not feel sorry” for the victims of sexual misconduct. Yep. Down syndrome.
Then came the grand finale, a lengthy interview posted by Vulture in which he bemoans that he’s not allowed to make jokes about trans people because he’s not trans. “So I’ll be trans,” he said. “The whole point of everything nowadays is that you can be anything you want to be. Someone that’s born male and identifies as male, we used to call that ‘male.’ Now we call it ‘cis-male.’ Even though 99.9 percent of the public perceives themselves to be the same gender that the mirror perceives, we can’t say that’s ‘male.’”
Now, should wokeness be a mandate for being given a talk show? Maybe not. Clearly, it isn’t. But when we consider the people whose voices are seldom heard but who do have informed, considered and valuable points of view, it wouldn’t hurt to perhaps think about that in theory.
Norm Macdonald has a show. Here are the people, as McFarland helpfully gathers in her Salon piece, who do not: Wolf, Robin Thede, Tig Notaro, Wanda Sykes, and Nikki Glaser.
This matters because they are women. TV shows fail for many reasons. But women, as TV personalities stretching back to Joan Rivers will attest to, are rarely given second chances when they’re the face of a failure. Hell, they’re rarely given second chances even when they’re the face of a success. And, as Glaser has said, when they publicly support movements like #MeToo which has resulted in career setbacks for men like Louis C.K., their opportunities further diminish. When Macdonald speaks in support of those men, he has a show!
We know the defense of Macdonald, his show, and even his comments.
He’s old school! It’s supposed to be charming. That whole idea, the old school-ness, is supposed to be the innocent charm. Almost like greenlighting this talk show in the first place could have been a deal made with a shrug rather than a handshake. “Norm? Sure. Everybody likes that guy.” But the presumption that it’s all excusable—the show’s meandering nothingness, Macdonald’s lame comments—because it’s just inoffensive fun is perhaps the most offensive part of it all.
There is value to the “people hanging out and talking” format. It produces real revelations and real truths. It’s why podcasts are great. It’s why David Letterman’s Netflix series is good. It’s why Howard Stern’s show, as his Macdonald interview proved this week, is legendary.
Norm Macdonald Has a Show doesn’t even approach anything arguably valuable. In the first episode, David Spade gamely tells stories from the start of his career, but Macdonald barely seems to be paying attention. Everyone is maniacally laughing through the whole thing, but you can’t shake the notion that you just walked in on your uncles having beers in the garage cracking themselves up, but you’re just not in on the joke.
Is the goal to mine interview subjects for old showbiz stories? I honestly can’t tell. The interviews are so unfocused and MacDonald so randomly sarcastic that it’s hard to even pay attention. Jane Fonda, if not visibly annoyed, seems confused by the whole schtick during her sit-down.
I had planned to watch more. He has amazing guests, ones who don’t normally sit for interviews like this. Lorne Michaels! David Letterman! Judge Judy! But there so little substance, I felt like I was wasting my time.
But what I love, or at least find poetic, about this particular case is how it flies in the face of the most dipshit defense of entertainers like Macdonald when they share opinions like the ones he did this week. “Who cares what they’re saying off-screen? It’s the art they’re making that matters.”
Well, here is Norm Macdonald saying shitty things while making shitty art. They are lazy opinions espoused by someone probably operating under the assumption that what he says doesn’t have to be informed or well-considered because guys like him don’t face repercussions for things like that. And he shares them while promoting a lazy talk show.
Yes, Norm Macdonald has a show. After all this writing, I guess what I’m really just asking is, “Why?”
I’m reminded of a great piece that Caroline Framke wrote for Vox when the #MeToo allegations started to ramp up: “Instead of mourning great art tainted by awful men, mourn the work we lost from their victims.” Not because Macdonald is an awful man, but he is defending those men and the opportunities they lost.
Meanwhile, who knows what art their victims would have made, let alone the women in the TV genre who are punished in ways he will not be—depending on how harsh a punishment you consider being canceled as a guest on Jimmy Fallon’s talk show to be.
The #MeToo movement isn’t just about the abusers. It’s about the many ways in which women have been threatened and minimized by structures of power and entitlement.
The brilliant Linda Bloodworth Thomason penned an incendiary essay for The Hollywood Reporter illustrating just that, explaining the ways in which Les Moonves derailed her career because simply because she was a woman writing strong female characters for a large female audience. Moonves took over when she was CBS’s most successful creator, and she never got another show.
But Norm Macdonald? Well, he has one.
Norm Macdonald Has a (Terrible) Show. Michelle Wolf Had a Great One. Why Are We Settling?
I honestly can’t believe we’re talking about Norm Macdonald.
We’ve been talking about him a lot lately, in the wake of a baffling, repeatedly offensive press tour that has managed to slight the women stepping forward in the #MeToo movement, Hannah Gadsby, the trans community, people forced to have non-consensual sex, people who have consensual sex, and Lena Dunham—at the same time staunchly defending Louis C.K. and Roseanne.
The occasion for this ticker tape of stupid is the 58-year-old comedian’s promotional tour for his new Netflix talk show, which is out today and called Norm Macdonald Has a Show. The title is supposed to be meta and cute, perhaps referencing the bare-bones, conversational format of the series. But in the wake of these comments, and after screening a handful of the first batch of episodes, the title now reads as more of a taunt: Jesus Christ, Norm Macdonald has a show.
Should I be surprised that Norm Macdonald is out there shilling a shitty show? Norm Macdonald kind of always has a shitty show.
If it isn’t Norm Macdonald, it’s someone I probably confused him for, or is kind of like him. Someone like Norm Macdonald kind of always has a shitty show. We’ve resigned ourselves to this Hollywood truth. As Melanie McFarland wrote in an excellent Salon piece on this very topic, “The world has always been ruled by some version of Norm Macdonald. That’s why so many people love him.”
Perhaps we even watch these shitty shows, maybe because we’re fans, or maybe because we think that’s the thing we’re supposed to do. But, like, what if we just... didn’t? Better yet, what if they—the proverbial “they”—just stopped making them?
Less than a month ago, Netflix canceled Michelle Wolf’s talk show. Now, the streaming service is parading this guy around.
Should that be irritating? There are many reasons behind one show’s cancellation and another show’s inception, and the two may have absolutely nothing to do with each other. But, subjectively and independently of that, God yes, it should be maddening.
The Break, Wolf’s short-lived Netflix show, was a sharply written, carefully planned, high-production gem, a valuable and critically valued descendant ofThe Daily Show with a necessary point of view. (A woman’s!)
It was a series that found its sea legs with impressive speed, made news, provided lacerating insights, and had genuine potential. And Wolf herself has proven a strong, special personality in the world of entertainment, both shooting to stardom and weathering the ensuing media storm with a fearless, barbed club-swinging White House Correspondents Dinner set.
I kept thinking about how all that has been canceled while watching the first few episodes of Norm Macdonald Has a Show, a haphazard “here’s Norm talking to someone” free for all, and got angry all over again.
That name became a taunt again. Norm Macdonald has a show! Here it is! LOL! David Spade literally recounts the plot of The Larry Sanders Show, Norm Macdonald interrupts with a joke about a hooker, and sidekick Adam Eget just giggles maniacally off-frame. That’s the show! G’night folks!
Norm Macdonald has a show and Michelle Wolf does not. That’s aggravating.
It’s aggravating because of what Wolf’s show and her material contributed to the national discourse, and the utter pointlessness of what’s happening on Macdonald’s series. And it’s aggravating that this is the show we’re given in the wake of Macdonald’s controversial comments this week. All that... for this?
In The Hollywood Reporter this week, he said he’s “happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a bit” because the “I believe all women” response was getting out of hand. He made a plea for extreme sympathy for Louis C.K. and Roseanne in the wake of their career fallouts. “There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day,” he said. “Of course, people will go, ‘What about the victims?’ But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that.”
Macdonald later apologized for this in a tweet, and told Howard Stern that “you’d have to have Down syndrome to not feel sorry” for the victims of sexual misconduct. Yep. Down syndrome.
Then came the grand finale, a lengthy interview posted by Vulture in which he bemoans that he’s not allowed to make jokes about trans people because he’s not trans. “So I’ll be trans,” he said. “The whole point of everything nowadays is that you can be anything you want to be. Someone that’s born male and identifies as male, we used to call that ‘male.’ Now we call it ‘cis-male.’ Even though 99.9 percent of the public perceives themselves to be the same gender that the mirror perceives, we can’t say that’s ‘male.’”
Now, should wokeness be a mandate for being given a talk show? Maybe not. Clearly, it isn’t. But when we consider the people whose voices are seldom heard but who do have informed, considered and valuable points of view, it wouldn’t hurt to perhaps think about that in theory.
Norm Macdonald has a show. Here are the people, as McFarland helpfully gathers in her Salon piece, who do not: Wolf, Robin Thede, Tig Notaro, Wanda Sykes, and Nikki Glaser.
This matters because they are women. TV shows fail for many reasons. But women, as TV personalities stretching back to Joan Rivers will attest to, are rarely given second chances when they’re the face of a failure. Hell, they’re rarely given second chances even when they’re the face of a success. And, as Glaser has said, when they publicly support movements like #MeToo which has resulted in career setbacks for men like Louis C.K., their opportunities further diminish. When Macdonald speaks in support of those men, he has a show!
We know the defense of Macdonald, his show, and even his comments.
He’s old school! It’s supposed to be charming. That whole idea, the old school-ness, is supposed to be the innocent charm. Almost like greenlighting this talk show in the first place could have been a deal made with a shrug rather than a handshake. “Norm? Sure. Everybody likes that guy.” But the presumption that it’s all excusable—the show’s meandering nothingness, Macdonald’s lame comments—because it’s just inoffensive fun is perhaps the most offensive part of it all.
There is value to the “people hanging out and talking” format. It produces real revelations and real truths. It’s why podcasts are great. It’s why David Letterman’s Netflix series is good. It’s why Howard Stern’s show, as his Macdonald interview proved this week, is legendary.
Norm Macdonald Has a Show doesn’t even approach anything arguably valuable. In the first episode, David Spade gamely tells stories from the start of his career, but Macdonald barely seems to be paying attention. Everyone is maniacally laughing through the whole thing, but you can’t shake the notion that you just walked in on your uncles having beers in the garage cracking themselves up, but you’re just not in on the joke.
Is the goal to mine interview subjects for old showbiz stories? I honestly can’t tell. The interviews are so unfocused and MacDonald so randomly sarcastic that it’s hard to even pay attention. Jane Fonda, if not visibly annoyed, seems confused by the whole schtick during her sit-down.
I had planned to watch more. He has amazing guests, ones who don’t normally sit for interviews like this. Lorne Michaels! David Letterman! Judge Judy! But there so little substance, I felt like I was wasting my time.
But what I love, or at least find poetic, about this particular case is how it flies in the face of the most dipshit defense of entertainers like Macdonald when they share opinions like the ones he did this week. “Who cares what they’re saying off-screen? It’s the art they’re making that matters.”
Well, here is Norm Macdonald saying shitty things while making shitty art. They are lazy opinions espoused by someone probably operating under the assumption that what he says doesn’t have to be informed or well-considered because guys like him don’t face repercussions for things like that. And he shares them while promoting a lazy talk show.
Yes, Norm Macdonald has a show. After all this writing, I guess what I’m really just asking is, “Why?”
I’m reminded of a great piece that Caroline Framke wrote for Vox when the #MeToo allegations started to ramp up: “Instead of mourning great art tainted by awful men, mourn the work we lost from their victims.” Not because Macdonald is an awful man, but he is defending those men and the opportunities they lost.
Meanwhile, who knows what art their victims would have made, let alone the women in the TV genre who are punished in ways he will not be—depending on how harsh a punishment you consider being canceled as a guest on Jimmy Fallon’s talk show to be.
The #MeToo movement isn’t just about the abusers. It’s about the many ways in which women have been threatened and minimized by structures of power and entitlement.
The brilliant Linda Bloodworth Thomason penned an incendiary essay for The Hollywood Reporter illustrating just that, explaining the ways in which Les Moonves derailed her career because simply because she was a woman writing strong female characters for a large female audience. Moonves took over when she was CBS’s most successful creator, and she never got another show.
But Norm Macdonald? Well, he has one.
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What a bunch of fucking babies. They cried over something so innocuous as 'I'm glad this witch hunt of bad behaviour has slowed down because it's blacklisting good people'? Do these faggots also cry when their soy mochaccino's don't have enough foam?
Jesus.
Also, binged his new show and it was really really good. Best guest were Chevy and Judge Judy imo.