NPCs: Born or made?

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

Well, you could start by narrowing it down to some principles that the rulers, PC or otherwise, are bound to and which can't simply be overruled because 51% of the sheep voted a certain way. But again, that wouldn't be "democratic" so it's typically considered a non-starter.

Almost like a bill or declaration of inalienable rights or something… hmm, that’s a pretty interesting idea.

 

[gang weeder]

Almost like a bill or declaration of inalienable rights or something… hmm, that’s a pretty interesting idea.

Yes, but without the part where idiots can vote to ignore it. Mob rule was one of the founders' greatest fears and in hindsight I think they were completely justified in that fear.

Another issue with the Bill of Rights is that it's about exactly that--Rights. It bestows rights to individuals, which is all well and good, but there isn't an agreed-upon set of base principles binding government's duty to the people. It's "you can't do these things," not "these are the things you must do." For instance, binding politicians to serve the actual population of their nation and forbidding them from participating in globalist institutions like the UN.

I recognize that this is obviously a novel problem since the 1700s, but it's a hole in the American approach IMO. It creates a perspective where everything has to only be framed in terms of rights, never responsibilities, thus leaving people free to be complete degenerates so long as don't technically violate another person's rights.

 

[Michael Pemulis]

I've known a lot of low IQ individuals who would still form somewhat profound thoughts from time to time, and I've known a lot of high IQ individuals who would simply refuse to think about things happening around them. It's obviously not *just* decisions and outside influence but nurture is way more influential than nature here.

 

[Stoneheart]

Hey dickholsters! we first need to make sure that we are all talking about the same thing, so a common definition of NPC should be the first thing we do.

I think the 4chan definition is the best. NPCs are people without inner monologe and the abilitiy of visualizing things in their mind.

 

[Wormy]

Considering NPC just means "Anyone not hard right wing" according to the internet, and is thus is purely based on adopted ideology? Made.

 

[Screamer]

Hey dickholsters! we first need to make sure that we are all talking about the same thing, so a common definition of NPC should be the first thing we do.

I think the 4chan definition is the best. NPCs are people without inner monologe and the abilitiy of visualizing things in their mind.

That's a whole different thing.

NPCs are people who hold opinions, facts, narratives and vocalise them with absolute certainty. Yet lack any background knowledge or information for why they hold that opinion. They have adopted it completely uncritically. Often very passionately. Yet as they just have the opinion. They can instantly swap it out with a different opinion, often completely contradictory and logically inconsistent. They didn't know why they had the previous opinion, they don't know why they have the current one. As they aren't thinking, they seem to not even notice the contradiction or change in opinion. It's just the opinion to have.

They can strongly hold many opinions which are logically inconsistent and not realise it.

They don't like to be challenged on any of this, because it creates strong emotional stress. As they don't know why they think what they think. When pushed to critically think, when asked questions, asked to explain or have contradictions in their opinions pointed out. They have nothing. They literally can't think about these opinions because they know so little about them. Which creates immense frustration. They just KNOW what they think is correct.

This happens on all sides of politics and is probably fed by whatever information bubbles they're in. They are just the correct opinion to have.

It's the difference between, someone having a bunch of information and reasons why they hold an opinion. Versus just having an opinion.

So they can't be talked or reasoned to. It is often highlighted by claims that people just need to "listen." Or telling others to do the research, because they can't explain why they think what they know. They only want to be around people who also just uncritically have the same opinion. Say the same things. Never question it. Just repeat the correct things to say. Like an NPC in a video game.

It's worth noting, that everyone can be an NPC on certain topics, opinions and facts.

In general, it's used to refer to people who are highly passionate and outspoken about political and social issues. Yet are just spouting what they believe are the correct opinions to have. Often for virtue signalling reasons. If you don't agree or question it, it's a sign of being a bad person. Especially for the woke left's version of it. These are the opinions a good person has. As they didn't come to the opinions themselves, they don't understand how someone could not hold that opinion.

Or that is roughly how I see it.

EDIT: This has always been a thing. Whatever the mechanism that feeds people NPC opinions, it has been amplified with social media and the current culture in general. So people have more NPC opinions about things than ever before.

 

[Certified_Autist]

I've known a lot of low IQ individuals who would still form somewhat profound thoughts from time to time, and I've known a lot of high IQ individuals who would simply refuse to think about things happening around them. It's obviously not *just* decisions and outside influence but nurture is way more influential than nature here.

I think its 2 scales. An intelligence scale and a "conformity/creativity" scale. Like you said, there's otherwise "smart" people that can't or won't think for themselves, and there's stupid people that can still independently think. As well as other combinations of intelligence and creativity.

If you want to visualize it, imagine a geometry graph kind of like this.

Spoiler: 10,000 hours in MS Paint

 

[veri]

personably i believe people are born with hardwired traits that can't be changed. those traits determining your personality, skillset, strengths, weaknesses, view on/interpretation of life, intelligence, and likes/dislikes... there are people who naturally more empathetic and view their life and events through that lens, the downside of that being that they're easily manipulated to emotional appeals and unquestioning. there are people who naturally are more critical and view things objectively who don't buy into things as easily. neither of these traits on their own are necessarily bad though. empathy isn't a bad trait but it can be, and is, exploited. there are people who are independent, and people who have the need to be socially accepted at any cost

these traits along with location, family, life experiences/development, socialization, self awareness etc determine whether someone will be an npc imo. i believe social conformity is becoming more necessary nowadays because of the younger and younger age people start being influenced