Nu Metal Thread - The Good, The Bad and the Limp Bizkit.

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Is Nu Metal still as gay as it was back then?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 9.1%

  • No, Today's music is worse

    Votes: 13 23.6%

  • It's actually underrated

    Votes: 23 41.8%

  • It's a mixed bag

    Votes: 10 18.2%

  • It's even worse

    Votes: 4 7.3%
  • Total voters
    55
Alex Hogendorp

Alex Hogendorp

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Before the hypersexualized pop music of the 2010s and the cheesy overly political right wing country rap music of the 2020s (In combat with LGBT groomer songs), during the 2000s, one of our favorite music genre's to hate on is Nu Metal (and emo teen pop music which the genre has some relations to). Nu Metal is a genre combining punk and rap elements and is one of the more mainstream genre's of Metal. Considering the senseless and cheesy productions of many Nu-Metal music (although it might not be the intention at first), Nu Metal has become one of many reasons people hated the 2000s living in it and often had people consider music to have fallen around the September 11 Attacks. Nowadays I can find a plethora of Nu Metal fans who hate on today's music and lambasting Imagine Dragons and Coldplay for being too popish (whom I can consider arguably even worse). From my experience, Nu Metal has such a quality range that many of my favorite and least favorite songs are Nu Metal. System of a Down resembling one of the few I can take a bit more seriously while the latter can be quite cringe. I still prefer Nu Metal over today's pop rock and hypersexualized pop music but I do have a sense Nu Metal somewhat contributed to the downfall of music.
 
I know that people will give me shit for it, but I like nu metal.

Slipknot's S/T and Iowa were the embodiment of 2000's angst you'd listen to when you wanted to vent through the sheer factor of nine guys from the buttfuck of nowhere in Iowa giving their all to break through the mainstream, and then going on a drug fueled rampage which made Iowa, then culminated in the third album being a massive softball, and finally fourth album being technically impressive but otherwise unremarkable, and with Paul's death and Joey's departure the band was basically done for. Sometimes I think the only reason they've pushed through was because of that Roadrunner chirograph they've signed in 1998 and they really wanted to call it quits after Paul's death, but alas, they've pushed on through and now only 4 of the original 9 members are still left in the band.

Mudvayne was one of the more talented bands from that era. They've originated from an even bigger shithole than Slipknot, their initial look was a Slipknot knockoff but with face paint instead of masks, but they ended up creating their first album with none other than the Clown from Slipknot, and it's still a blast to listen to, especially with Martinie going ape shit on the bass. The brbr deng meme overshadowed all the insane bass slapping on that album.

And you can shit on Limp Bizkit all you want, but the core idea of this genre is to be fun, and Limp Bizkit's music was just that, fun. It wasn't technically impressive like Slipknot or Mudvayne, but it was fun. Static-X wasn't very deep, but it was fun. Blasting your nitrous to the drop of Skinnyman was the definition of growing up as a 2000's kid, and it was fun, and that's all that mattered.

And say what you want about nu metal, people like Ryan Martinie, Joey Jordison and Paul Gray were (well, Ryan is still around) insanely talented, and have definitely inspired a lot of musicians, so to say they were worthless just because of the stigma associated with the genre is to be ignorant.

And any top 10 drummer list that doesn't list Joey is a worthless list, and whoever made it is a faggy metal snob whose opinions on music should be disregarded as a whole.
 
Nu Metal was what got me into more traditional heavy/extreme metal subgenres like thrash, death metal and black metal, as well as get me interested in music more broadly as well. Korn was my favorite band when I was like 10, and I still like a lot of Deftones, SOAD, Linkin Park, and Slipknot songs but those are the only nu metal bands I listen to still to this day. It is interesting to see it have a resurgence amongst zoomers considering I liked nu metal when I was a kid and I'm in my 30s now.
 
Drop D might be the most fun tuning to play guitar in and it's not a surprise that it's overrepresented among Nu Metal songs.
 
I really like the style that became known as nu metal.
Combining hard rock with rap and electronic music can result in some great stuff.
The best I think is Linkin Park, even though they were a lot more than that and changed their style a lot over the years.
Here's proof that they evolved over the years:
Recently, LP released a ton of old songs from the Meteora days that never made it to their albums.
Here are some:

Limp Bizkit got a bit of a revival recently because they released a new album.
If you liked their previous stuff, you will like this:

I might be back in this thread once I'll think of something decent to post.
 
I still kind of like Slipknot and Linkin Park only because they remind me of the radio growing up. The local choices down here were: Tejano, Tejano Talk Radio, Pop, Country, or the only good stations, Rock 101.1 KLOL (which became Tejano eventually) and classical. I didn't get into smooth jazz until a little later when I discovered I enjoyed putting it on during WoW grinding to relax. Slipknot and Linkin Park were played adnauseam on Rock 101 and remind me of middle school. I had such a blast during those days. My older buddies were just starting to do things like drive and sign up for the military to go fight the ragheads. Life was good.
 
I honestly think Limp Bizkit gets way too much hate. I can agree some of their sounds are embarrassing but other than that. Many of their songs are quite bangers to be honest. Aside from Goodnight Alt Right (A rare song that is both fairly annoying, incredibly retarded and hilariously bad). Stray From The Path's other songs are alright.
CoolFool said:
I'll never feel bad for liking nu metal. I still like it to this day.
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Nu Metal holds a special place in my heart despite it's fallacies. It reminds me of my childhood of much happier times. Even if they acted like reckless idiots, they were well aware of it and it's refreshing to be a bit retarded after being serious for so long. Even if it was degenerate, it's not as unhinged as today's music and a lot of Nu Metal songs have a lot of meaning to them too. It's also the same reason I have reverence for the Sex Pistols. Plus they usually have awesome instrumentals.
 
Nu Metal is honestly kinda cringe. That said I still listen to old school Linkin Park every so often and even did download the recently released Lost Demos CD containing shit recorded in that early era because it was a band I pretty much grew up with.
 
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Idiotron said:
I really like the style that became known as nu metal.
Combining hard rock with rap and electronic music can result in some great stuff.
The best I think is Linkin Park, even though they were a lot more than that and changed their style a lot over the years.
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Evanescence did it well too, on their first album especially. I always liked the combo too.

Also, Oteps first two albums are still very enjoyable. System of a Down were probably the best of the genre, and that's why I think they rose "above" it. so to speak. Also, I genuinely think that song Youth of the Nation by POD had great production quality.
 
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fake farts said:
Evanescence did it well too, on their first album especially. I always liked the combo too.
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Oh man. I had the biggest most uncomfortable crush on Amy Lee when I was a teenager. I think I would have liked her even if she just had the voice goin for her...kinda like Ann Wilson from Heart. Felt like I got hit with a sledgehammer the first time I saw one of Evanescence's videos on MTV. You know she married her fucking therapist? lol
 
Cats said:
Oh man. I had the biggest most uncomfortable crush on Amy Lee when I was a teenager. I think I would have liked her even if she just had the voice goin for her...kinda like Ann Wilson from Heart. Felt like I got hit with a sledgehammer the first time I saw one of Evanescence's videos on MTV. You know she married her fucking therapist? lol
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I didn't know that. I know she's got a kid, a son. I think her past relationships were pretty shit, so good on her for finding something stable. She still looks good, gained some weight with age, but still has that amazing hair. Their music has remained pretty consistently good too, but I still think the early stuff was the peak. They did a Fleetwood Mac cover a few years back.
 
Nu-Metal was the bête noire for many a metalhead especially during the late '90s and 2000s. If you were extremely online during that period, you could easily earn clout by shitting on Nu-Metal. To me, it's a fascinating evolution in heavy music and might be the last genre of heavy rock to reach the mainstream if we're not counting Metalcore.

Nu-Metal stood at the vertex of Rap Rock, Hard Alternative/Grunge, Industrial Rock/Metal, Funk Metal, Groove Metal and even Hardcore Punk, all popular on MTV from the late '80s up until '94. By the time Korn dropped their first album, all those genres fell by the wayside and Nu-Metal rose to the top.

While bands seldom differentiated in lyrics covering pain, angst, destruction and misanthropy, most of them sounded worlds apart from one another. Korn, Limp Bizkit, Soulfly or Static-X reveled in bravado, impulsive and tribalistic aggression while Slipknot or Marilyn Manson hearkened to '70s Shock Rock with '90s sensibilities and aesthetics. Korn took cues from Faith No More and Helmet while Slipknot looked up to Mr. Bungle. Deftones had a more Post-Hardcore meets Hip-Hop undertone to their Nu-Metal sound. Towards the twilight of the genre's life, Linkin Park was introspective in their lyrics and focused more on Electronic, Trip-Hop and even Ambient atmospheres with their sound.

Separating those bands from their influences was their willingness to conform and return to machismo thanks to the Hip-Hop and Hardcore influences. Alternative bands were often quirky, elegant and socially progressive, thus politically correct. Nu-Metal took the opposite approach with more bands conforming to a tough-as-nails working class style. With minor exception, those guys were looking to throw down if you so much as gave them an awkward look.

To me, these bands were directly responsible for Nu-Metal's genesis or were influential, but not necessarily Nu-Metal: Pantera, Helmet, Only Living Witness, Prong, 24-7 Spyz, Living Colour, Fishbone, Deftones, Mordred, RATM, Tool, Infectious Grooves, Mr. Bungle, Faith No More, '90s Sepultura, Alice in Chains, Madball, Hatebreed, Acid Bath, Godsmack, Body Count, White Zombie, L.A.P.D., Korn, Biohazard, Fear Factory, Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, Skinlab, Slipknot, Soulfly, Powerman 5000, P.O.D., (early) Sugar Ray and many others
 
fake farts said:
I didn't know that. I know she's got a kid, a son. I think her past relationships were pretty shit, so good on her for finding something stable. She still looks good, gained some weight with age, but still has that amazing hair. Their music has remained pretty consistently good too, but I still think the early stuff was the peak. They did a Fleetwood Mac cover a few years back.
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Oh, yeah I wasn't criticizing her for her choice at all. I just thought it was strange - like, does he keep on being her therapist? If so that seems like one of those things that would be amazing in a perfect world and absolutely fall apart in the real one. I'm gonna go ahead and assume they work it out however they need to and that everyone is fine + happy just like I normally do these days. I have to be optimistic otherwise I'd just break down from how empty and negative most modern relationships are and how awful couples often seem to treat each other now.
 
I'm just here to post some cool stuff I found.

Being a breakdancer, this music video inspired me a lot back in the day.

This one is still one of my favorites, it kind of got forgotten but it really shouldn't have been.

I never heard anybody mention this band even once, I thought I imagined it back in the day but not too long ago, I atched a shitty movie from like 2002 and they ere on the soundtrack.
This is cheesy as fuck but also pretty catchy.

And finally (or this post) here is some European flavor:
 
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