Null is out of touch with women

AgendaPoster said:
It's all fear and resentment driven.
They know very well we are different. They know how statistics work. But they will do everything in their power to muddy the waters and weaken and deconstruct any form of traditional masculinity, cause they fear the repercussions of telling the truth and acknowledging reality.
Everywhere on the planet the system of lies built by liberalism is slowly falling apart. The strong yet again are trying to force themselves upon the weak, regardless of the cost in human lives and suffering, and it's an undeniable phenomenon. Women being made subservient when so many others are actually dying would be almost a non-event on the grand scale.
So what they do is a form of what I would call "strategical essentialism".
That means that when it comes to catcalling, rapes, violence, wars, crime and so on, men are at it, and statistics are emphasized. If you would try to talk about "nuance", you would be told that is NOT the place to do it, and "not all men" is a laughable position, so get fucked moid.
But, when it comes to physical strength and other biological differences, including brain capacity and intellectual pursuits, OMG, we're back to universalism. "What men can do, women can do better!" You dirty chud!
A good relationship between the sexes can ONLY grow from each sex acknowledging the statistics and knowing its place and purpose, and also be careful to not overdo it.
PS: My workplace is about 80% (maybe 85%) women. My bosses are all women, minus one. I would so love to be able to have kiwis visit, like a zoo of sorts, where you can see them in their natural habitat. It's quite majestic!
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to put a long story short
men and women are equal except for when they're not
i am very much familiar with this

and i have been that one guy in an all-female workplace
 
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God of Nothing said:
men shouldn't be in control of women
but men should be in control of women
like, i don't necessarily disagree with you but this is retarded

It's exactly this kind of thinking that led to all this. There is no grey space for whatever traditional idea we have of the relationship between sexes. XX and XY will remain as such. How can so many people say men and women are different and then go on to say they're actually the same. Don't you get tired of this shit? This confusion allows all this tension to exist in the first place. When you expect something and are expected to be something while told you're not and shouldn't, of course you're going to be frustrated. It isn't goddamn rocket science.
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That's not what I meant. What I'm trying to say is that in order to disarm the gender wars, is that we need to hold women accountable and encourage men but we shouldn't take away the property rights and political rights they've gained in terms of voting and advancement.
 
Shadfan666xxx000 said:
That's not what I meant. What I'm trying to say is that in order to disarm the gender wars, is that we need to hold women accountable and encourage men but we shouldn't take away the property rights and political rights they've gained in terms of voting and advancement.
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Requiring an entire sex to hold the other accountable for their actions is a massive contradiction of the equality you advocate for. It's an admittance that the opposite sex in question cannot hold itself accountable to the same degree. That is the source of this entire problem. You are saying Men and women are different except in the ways they're not.
like, how the hell did you not see that when you wrote this post
 
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gang weeder said:
Why does it matter who can vote in sham elections? You're really emotionally attached to the idea of voting but you also think the elections are fake, and the latter somehow justifies the former? In a fake election, your vote literally doesn't matter. I don't know what sort of insane troll logic you're on and can only conclude that you're coping and sneeding.
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Because they're not fake elections. Remember that Trump won in 2016. The body politic at its time of need, brought forth a candidate with the vigor and resources necessary to take the executive and perform admirably. When he was taken away, and he was cheated against, the cheating produced numerous side effects for the new regime: 1) it denied that new administration its legitimacy and in doing so, hindered it from advancing its interests, especially as they proved themselves to be destructive time and again and 2) it bolstered the cause of the unfairly contested former president and his supporters, allowing them to retake the political scene as the public could see who was legitimate and could more fairly provide capital to the true holder of the seat.
If we were to reduce voting rights to what a college board would likely prefer to be voters (affluent, degree holders) then these results wouldn't match the common person and the common sense which knew what to do with the vote. The average person would be powerless to throw even this much damage to the Biden administration and they would be reduced to nothing but utter demoralization and apathy. But, with their voting rights, they can at least know they were cheated in plainer terms and they can throw their weight behind the proper candidate while hindering the frauds whose stole the election.
 
God of Nothing said:
Requiring an entire sex to hold the other accountable for their actions is a massive contradiction of the equality you advocate for. It's an admittance that the opposite sex in question cannot hold itself accountable to the same degree. That is the source of this entire problem. You are saying Men and women are different except in the ways they're not.
like, how the hell did you not see that when you wrote this post
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I never said men and women were the same. This point of trying to catch someone with "ha, you said they are the same but they are not" is ridiculous on the face of it. Do you expect society to be clones?
 
Shadfan666xxx000 said:
I never said men and women were the same. This point of trying to catch someone with "ha, you said they are the same but they are not" is ridiculous on the face of it. Do you expect society to be clones?
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You're missing the point or I'm not getting to the heart of it. This entire scenario is because we live in the same environment you say should still exist. "Educating" men and "empowering" them to call women out on their bullshit is just manosphere stuff today. If it really was that simple, we'd have already fixed all of this. The tension still exists and isn't resolved at all. If anything, it's even worse.
 
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Majority of countries throughout human history treat women like cattle.
Emancipated women in progressive countries deem men in them to be too whiny and won't breed with them.

Coincidence?
 
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God of Nothing said:
You're missing the point or I'm not getting to the heart of it. This entire scenario is because we live in the same environment you say should still exist. "Educating" men and "empowering" them to call women out on their bullshit is just manosphere stuff today. If it really was that simple, we'd have already fixed all of this. The tension still exists and isn't resolved at all. If anything, it's even worse.
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It'll also get worse if you unironically try to take away their voting rights as if that's not going to be nothing more than a band aid to the problem at best.
 
Shadfan666xxx000 said:
Because they're not fake elections. Remember that Trump won in 2016. The body politic at its time of need, brought forth a candidate with the vigor and resources necessary to take the executive and perform admirably.
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Okay, so the elections aren't fake after all, so you went off on that tangent for no reason at all, bringing us right back to what I already posted 10 pages ago:

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If you think 2020 was wrongly decided, and that elections aren't fake, or aren't completely fake, or whatever, then you should agree that women choose badly compared to men when it comes to voting. Would you rather women be able to vote and have Biden, or only men voting and have Trump (in practice it would probably be someone better, as politics likely wouldn't devolve into this much of a clown show if voting were properly restricted)? I would rather have correct policies than women voting. If you think flushing everything down the toilet so women can feel empowered is worth it, then okay, we just disagree I guess. If that is the case your viewpoint is an admission that mass democracy is flawed and hasn't worked out well.

Shadfan666xxx000 said:
If we were to reduce voting rights to what a college board would likely prefer to be voters (affluent, degree holders) then these results wouldn't match the common person and the common sense which knew what to do with the vote. The average person would be powerless to throw even this much damage to the Biden administration and they would be reduced to nothing but utter demoralization and apathy. But, with their voting rights, they can at least know they were cheated in plainer terms and they can throw their weight behind the proper candidate while hindering the frauds whose stole the election.
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No one suggested restricting the vote to a college board.

Biden is probably going to win again and the electoral map by gender will look the same as the one from 2020. Lots of people will blame it on women hating the right because of Dobbs. It will be funny to see the sneeding from folks like you in November.
 
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gang weeder said:
If you think 2020 was wrongly decided, and that elections aren't fake, or aren't completely fake, or whatever, then you should agree that women choose badly compared to men when it comes to voting. Would you rather women be able to vote and have Biden, or only men voting and have Trump (in practice it would probably be someone better, as politics likely wouldn't devolve into this much of a clown show if voting were properly restricted)? I would rather have correct policies than women voting. If you think flushing everything down the toilet so women can feel empowered is worth it, then okay, we just disagree I guess. If that is the case your viewpoint is an admission that mass democracy is flawed and hasn't worked out well.
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I would rather address why women vote the way they do and address it instead of simply jumping to fix a flawed by introducing another flawed system and getting new headaches.

gang weeder said:
No one suggested restricting the vote to a college board.
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Then how do you plan to restrict the vote? Because if you plan to restrict it based on gender and economic standing (which is what you admit to earlier) then where will that end? Because you're now talking about a precedent that could easily reverse into itself further and go the opposite way by even further degrees than simply welfare recipients.
 
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Shadfan666xxx000 said:
getting new headaches.
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Nigger we are experiencing the new headaches right now. The reason 'repeal the 19th' holds any weight is its fairly straightforward to prove that the current war mongering dipshit wouldn't be in power without it.
 
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