NVIDIA Databreach

[Manul Otocolobus]

AMD, Intel, Qualcomm and others won't lift anything proprietary from them, for fear of lawsuits(just look at previous squabbles between anyone making graphic chips) and TSMC and Samsung will not manufacture the chips for the obvious chink GPUs.
Even if they managed to get it made the import and sale of those products would be banned. In my opinion releasing the Verilog files is more of a tremendous embarrassment for Nvidia, like if someone hacked and plastered a dudes dick pics everywhere. Again, that's just my opinion and I don't know shit.

This is true, however, just knowing how NVIDIA makes its secret sauce will be enough to inform them of ways to possibly do certain things better in hardware, and also allow them to implement their own versions of NVIDIA's tech to make their products more compatible. So, it has some value, just not directly.

didnt nvidia hack the hackers back

They tried, and failed.

Leaked source code = radioactive. Which might be why the hackers asked for Nvidia to open source everything themselves, or they just wanted to troll.

This is true. However, having the source code will tell the community how to make better open source drivers. In programming there is always more than one answer to any given way to do something. If the drivers do something a given way, the community drivers can just do it a different way. It may not be as good as the official drivers, but it will be better than what they have now and it wouldn't be a problem.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

This is true, however, just knowing how NVIDIA makes its secret sauce will be enough to inform them of ways to possibly do certain things better in hardware, and also allow them to implement their own versions of NVIDIA's tech to make their products more compatible. So, it has some value, just not directly.

I'm sure they are aware to some extent what the other side is doing and all parties files excessive amounts of patents for every little thing. Wasn't AMD/ATi and Nvidia in court over the hardware implementation of an add or a multiply-add that they thought was suspiciously close to the their own implementation?
That was one interesting thing that happened when Apple severed with Imagination and announced they would make their own GPU. Imagination said "we don't think you can" and they were not putting down Apple engineers, it was a comment about GPU patent hell.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

The same hackers got to Samsung, supposedly:

https://videocardz.com/newz/samsung-allegedly-hacked-by-the-same-group-as-nvidia-first-data-leaked

 

[Slav Power]

Open sourcing the GPU drivers would benefit NVIDIA, since it would give free security testing and expansion of the software, also allowing for better compatibility with different systems. The issue is that NVIDIA also benefits from the drivers being closed source, as they then can artificially restrict the capabilities of a GPU to force people into paying extra for certain features. I guess a good middle ground would be open sourcing just the parts that are vital for the GPU to work properly and remove anything that NVIDIA locks up for certain models, but then again, this is NVIDIA. So, NVIDIA,

fuck you. You deserve getting your shit leaked.

 

[Fuck Y'all]

>implying that this hack won't ruin GPU prices even more due to LHR bypass

 

[teriyakiburns]

This is true, however, just knowing how NVIDIA makes its secret sauce will be enough to inform them of ways to possibly do certain things better in hardware, and also allow them to implement their own versions of NVIDIA's tech to make their products more compatible. So, it has some value, just not directly.

This is true. However, having the source code will tell the community how to make better open source drivers. In programming there is always more than one answer to any given way to do something. If the drivers do something a given way, the community drivers can just do it a different way. It may not be as good as the official drivers, but it will be better than what they have now and it wouldn't be a problem.

The only way to legally achieve this is if they have a team examine the code and write detailed specifications, then have another, entirely separate team write drivers to those specs. Anything else risks endless copyright lawsuits. Just witness the trouble ReactOS had to go through when they found out they'd incorporated code based on the Microsoft windows leaks a while back. It set them back years.

 

[THEY STOLE MY FORESKIN]

Lapsus$ has just hacked Microsoft and leaked a big part of the Bing source code and parts of the Maps and Cortana. The article mentions they also previously leaked stuff from Samsung, Vodafone, Ubisoft (rumored), and Mercado Libre, which I personally didn't know about. I think at this point it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a thread about them here.

 

[GoysGoneWild]

Keep it up boys!

 

[Besachf Jhakut]

>Trusting anything Intel related after Meltdown and Spectre

If so, you can't trust any vendor of out-of-order [OoO] CPUs. Everyone but AMD suffered from Meltdown, that's ARM, IBM mainframe and POWER, SPARC, and maybe MIPS. Spectre hits everyone, it was named so because it's going to be with us for a very long time, it's pretty much inherent to the OoO paradigm.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

The only way to legally achieve this is if they have a team examine the code and write detailed specifications, then have another, entirely separate team write drivers to those specs. Anything else risks endless copyright lawsuits. Just witness the trouble ReactOS had to go through when they found out they'd incorporated code based on the Microsoft windows leaks a while back. It set them back years.

The ol' "Chinese Wall" of reverse engineering. (There is probably a new word for it since I doubt they are allowed to call it a "Chinese" wall any longer)

Lapsus$ has just hacked Microsoft and leaked a big part of the Bing source code and parts of the Maps and Cortana...

So, they basically got worthless shit.

 

[Margo Martindale]

Rumer has it the hackers were able to breach into all these fompanies because of their previous breach of Okta, which wad only discovered recently

Okta is an authentication and identity managent software company used by many other companies. meaning even if for example, a department or a company that was recently acquired by nVidia or Microsoft used them, they could weasel their way into the source code from their and leak it.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

Anyone know how this all turned out? I tried to find more on it, and there was a high noise-to-signal ratio in the results, so I was unable to find anything definitive.

I'm betting NVIDIA didn't concede shit, and the hackers released it all.