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Fareal said:
You sweet American folks, explain to me why American kids don't get their healthcare paid for by the government. They don't make 'lifestyle choices' that the moralisers can blame their healthcare problems on, and they're too young to work and therefore pay for insurance of their own.

I don't get it. The arguments in favour of 'don't pay for healthcare for the scroungers RRREEEEE muh taxes' don't apply to kids. Why don't kids get paid for?

Is it not a social good and an investment in the future of the US as a nation to make sure kids are healthy, as well as educated (which the government already pays for)?

(I have asked this question elsewhere but the answer I always get is 'dunno'. You folks are more politically engaged.)
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I'm not an expert so someone feel free to correct what I get wrong, but I think that kids usually have at least some sort of program available to them. Either it's through medicaid, which covers families that make under a certain amount, or CHIP, which covers specifically children of families that make more than the threshold of medicaid, but still not a lot. There's also state and county level programs depending on where you live.
 
Sexy Times Hitler said:
You know what to do:
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'it's fucked up but if you're that One Rich Friend in a group of poor artists/queers/etc, get ready to really lean into that role'

What does this actually mean? Genuinely confused.

EDIT: I should perhaps clarify why this tweet caught my eye.

1. While most of them are what I would expect, this one is quite sinister and antagonistic; why would you write this kind of passive aggressive tweet suggesting that people should turn against people they're friends with?

2. It's not like queer or artist communities have 'that One Rich Friend', most of them are rich; it's how they afford the weird life. If anything the outlier those groups are more likely to have is 'that One Person Without a Trust Fund'.
 
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Republicans are stupid as hell. During a period when they were out of power, they made repealing one of the most popular things the government did in the last 20 years their main goal, and now that they're in power in all of the main parts of the government, they realize it would be phenomenally unpopular actually to do that shit.

So you're watching them fail over and over to do what they promised to do because nobody actually wants it to happen and they don't actually want to do it, but they've made impotently flailing at this shit a central part of their identity as a party.

Congratulations, morons! Lol!

Enjoy finding an excuse for failing at this shit without a Democrat in sight that isn't busily shitting his/hers/its/theirs/xirs own pants and autistically screeching about cartoon frogs!
 
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Null said:
Removes a lot of taxes, turns some things over to the state. The bill also explicitly allows you to keep your Obamacare plan if you so choose. Watching people explode about this is actually the most confusing thing I've ever seen. Pre-existing conditions are also covered. The first draft that failed was revised and resubmitted a month later. I think people are confusing this bill with that one.
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It's not that surprising though. History has shown us, many times over, that the people who speak the loudest about politics are some of the most misinformed people there are. molehills are constantly made into mountains, and every minor thing is that last straw that will break the camel's back and doom America forever.

And of course, all the things these doomsday prophets say NEVER come to pass, and yet some people still listen to them
 
AnOminous said:
Republicans are stupid as hell. During a period when they were out of power, they made repealing one of the most popular things the government did in the last 20 years their main goal, and now that they're in power in all of the main parts of the government, they realize it would be phenomenally unpopular actually to do that shit.
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I can't name one person who likes Obamacare. No one in my family even had health insurance as far as I know. All this does is shift some shit around and you can still keep your Obamacare plan if you so prefer.
 
Subconcious Offense said:
I don't know about that, but it is suspicious to me that Congress is exempting themselves from being affected by this bill.
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On one hand, this is not unusual. Congress exempts itself from a lot of the bills that make life more complicated for us mere mortals.

On the other hand, it's arguably the shittiest thing Congress does to us and the first thing that should stop if we ever get real reform in this country.
 
Anti Fanta said:
'it's fucked up but if you're that One Rich Friend in a group of poor artists/queers/etc, get ready to really lean into that role'

What does this actually mean? Genuinely confused.

EDIT: I should perhaps clarify why this tweet caught my eye.

1. While most of them are what I would expect, this one is quite sinister and antagonistic; why would you write this kind of passive aggressive tweet suggesting that people should turn against people they're friends with?

2. It's not like queer or artist communities have 'that One Rich Friend', most of them are rich; it's how they afford the weird life. If anything the outlier those groups are more likely to have is 'that One Person Without a Trust Fund'.
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Get ready for your NEET friends to bug you for money some more? That's my interpretation, at least.
 
talent99 said:
But IF the democrats win the next election, can't they just repeal the repeal, or just introduce a different healthcare law? Why is everyone saying that this will kill millions, or that this is the end?
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Theoretically if (which seems most likely) the republicans win in 18, they could make the bill untouchable through nothing short of an amendment, which considering we've had a total of 27 in 241 years (and 10 were in year 1) , you can see how hard it is to do that
 
While I can sympathise with what's going on as here in the UK we are enduring a similarly cynical dismantling of public healthcare with what the Conservative Party is doing to the NHS, I can't help but feel the American left is reaping what it has sown.

These people wanted identity politics to be at the forefront of the platform that Hillary ran on. They ignored the reality that the vast majority of people don't have the time to worry about pronouns or how many genders there are and showed complete and utter disdain and contempt for working-class Americans.

They helped create and are responsible for this mess. They can kick and scream and blame everything but themselves for it, but if they want anything to change they're going to have to come to terms with the fact that if people do end up dying like they claim they will, then blood will be on their hands too.
 
I'm going to continue to not vote for you! I might even whine about it on Twitter for a few days!
 
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