Occupy Wall Street was a joke

[T0oCoolFool]

I was there when it happened. It started out so promising. People were really fucking mad and everyone was actually mad at the right people for once. This started out completely organic, and the powers that be were caught off guard and rightfully scared that "Eat The Rich" was about to become a reality.

Sadly, it didn't last long. Like others have mentioned, it became infiltrated and the message muddled and squashed. This is also when the news stopped pretending they were neutral and did everything they could to hide the movement, until it became too big to ignore, then they started smearing it. Of course, the news has always been bought off and used by the elite however they see fit, but lots of people, especially young adults, really had no idea how bad it was until this movement.

Ever since then, any time a new protest crops up and looks promising, the same tactics are used and the movement killed.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

When I went there, it was a joke.

First day I was there- there was a "Free stuff" stall organized by local college students, filled with random clothing items, cds, random merchandise, etc. You can guess what happened when people started just grabbing stuff and walking off. "Please, only take one!! Bla bla bla"

We had some circle where everyone there literally voted on "whether we should be democratic in structure". Voting on whether or not we should vote to solve problems- utter stupidity.

There was some group thing later on where we were meant to introduce ourselves, and almost everyone there soapboxed for like 10 minutes and went into speeches about how capitalism sucks, and how ____ experience taught them about socialism, their victimhood points, etc. It very much detracted from "yeah 2008 sucked, lets get some accountability".

The occupy thing where I was at in Toronto was also full of college students who would just go home at the end of the day, defeating the entire purpose and making it just some hippie larp type thing.

When I saw the CHAZ this summer, I was reminded by my experience at Occupy. CHAZ is much worse, because they actually trashed an entire area beyond recognition and people were literally robbed non-stop and died (Something which still pisses me off, you had multiple black teenagers die in an area supposedly set up in protest of the Floyd killing- and yet none of these "activists" had the integrity to actually step forth and turn themselves in).

But just, joke experience overall.

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

OWS wasn't an odd response to the economic crisis caught by greedy bankers, who then got bailed out by tax payer money. I'm assuming that was part of your motivation to get into it. It would have been for me, but it was odd seeing people squatting in tents here in the Netherlands, with how remote some of the issues were.

Some banks sent some employees and talked to the people and gave them some free t-shirts (with bank logos), which they then wore. Weird to see, lol.

That’s really fascinating and kind of disturbing. In a way it is easier to oppose a dictator who acts like a bloody tyrant than it is to oppose wealthy business interests with PR firms and a human face. They will even try to march alongside you to co-opt the message and claim that they too want things to change when all they really want is to retain a hold on power by diluting the cause with platitudes. A perfect example in Canada our flamboyant Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau marched in the Climate Strike while at the same time buying pipelines to expand the tar sands. Someone threw an egg at him and the assailant was roughed up by the police while Justin stood there and waved. The fucking idiot is a leader of a country who can implement policy his cheap virtue signalling is the embodiment of neo-liberal ideology, a few tweaks around the edges here and there, more rights, a few crumbs for working people but fundamentally change nothing.

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

When I went there, it was a joke.

First day I was there- there was a "Free stuff" stall organized by local college students, filled with random clothing items, cds, random merchandise, etc. You can guess what happened when people started just grabbing stuff and walking off. "Please, only take one!! Bla bla bla"

We had some circle where everyone there literally voted on "whether we should be democratic in structure". Voting on whether or not we should vote to solve problems- utter stupidity.

There was some group thing later on where we were meant to introduce ourselves, and almost everyone there soapboxed for like 10 minutes and went into speeches about how capitalism sucks, and how ____ experience taught them about socialism, their victimhood points, etc. It very much detracted from "yeah 2008 sucked, lets get some accountability".

The occupy thing where I was at in Toronto was also full of college students who would just go home at the end of the day, defeating the entire purpose and making it just some hippie larp type thing.

When I saw the CHAZ this summer, I was reminded by my experience at Occupy. CHAZ is much worse, because they actually trashed an entire area beyond recognition and people were literally robbed non-stop and died (Something which still pisses me off, you had multiple black teenagers die in an area supposedly set up in protest of the Floyd killing- and yet none of these "activists" had the integrity to actually step forth and turn themselves in).

But just, joke experience overall.

I guess the tricky part is how to get decent ordinary people involved. When some leftists say oh we need a real revolution something more radical blah blah blah. Well Bernie Sanders has done more than any Marxist organization to push for systemic change love him or hate him he’s principled in his beliefs and he has more support from the people who do all the heavy lifting, nurses, teachers, construction workers etc. than CHAZ will ever have.

 

[Kornula]

The Occupy movement failed from the beginning when everyone there was protesting the "evil" corporations while using all the materials to get there and take pictures of the event from the same corporations they were protesting against. None of them saw this irony then or now. Plus, being a former libtard myself, I now notice they have never once been organized. The mention of a structure terrifies them much as soap and water terrifies fans at Comicon.

 

[Niggernerd]

You know some people on this site truly believe that occupy Wall Street was going to be this unifying game changing moment in the United States.

But honestly I never thought that when it was happening and I was not surprised when the entire autistic movement died away it did.

The reason why occupy Wall Street never really change anything is because there was no real plan other than bitching at the people working in the New York stock exchange.

Tell me people who really were down and cool with the movement what was the big plan where were the politicians you playing on voting on?

Hell for all the stuff you can say about the tea party back during that time. got the people they wanted in power and after their rallies they cleaned up after themselves.

Occupy after it was done like most liberal rallies you had that people clean up after them and as a bonus for occupy The clean up crew were wearing hazmat suits.

The only people who thought it would be legit are the same people who thought gamergate was gonna be legit.
Rip tim pool

 

[DeadFish]

There are a few lessons I've learned from occupy wall street.

1: Avoid publicly. Being well known attracts the attention of sort of derailers. Convert is key.
2. Exploit corruption. What the 2008 recession taught me is the leaders of america can be bribed into doing any thing. Heck they'll help you destroy the government (which is the source of their political power) if you pay them enough.
3. Destroy current dictomony. Replace white and black thinking with orange and blue.