Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Isn't it risky to let foreign powers have a hand in voting systems, though? The US elections are a big deal, foreigners have plenty of incentives to make the machines vulnerable. This is particularly true when said foreign powers are
Okay, the narrative for this has gotten so goddamn muddy that I feel it's worth breaking a few things down.
Dominion does not hold any sway over votes or our counting of them. They develop hardware and software for voting and tabulating machines.
Now, when it comes to the machines themselves, there are two methods that the US employs based on each state.
Precinct Voting and Central Voting.
Precinct Voting is when the voting machine is set to a specific are and does not connect in any way to a server. These machines are closed networks that are physically picked up and totaled later.
Central Voting is where each machine in a state's various precincts are connected to a centralized server that compiles and totals votes for that state.

There is zero times in which this information goes anywhere outside of the states as even if they were sent back to Dominion HQ & Manufacturing, it would most likely go to their Denver, Colorado branch. And if they were -for whatever crazy reason- to leave the country, they would go to Canada to their Toronto branch

So I don't think we have much to worry about, it would also be incredibly unlikely that a massive hack could take place by China or Russia or whomever because they would have an incredibly short amount of time to hack Central Voting systems, and even then, they would ONLY get the Central systems of that state.
As for Precinct Voting systems being hacked they would have to physically infiltrate and sabotage those machines.
Which is again, unlikely.
 
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Good point. All of Biden's in-laws and grandkids are Jews, but they're not religious or hold that much control over him as far as I know. Kamala has no Jewish relatives at all. EDIT: nevermind lol she's married to a Jew


I'm citing Sidney Powell's sources who seem to have plenty of cybersecurity experience. I'm eager to see what the judges have to say, I suppose we'll see.
Sidney Powell is legit batshit insane. I wouldn't take anything she says seriously
 
Sidney Powell is legit batshit insane. I wouldn't take anything she says seriously
I'd agree if the accusations came from her alone and folks who worked with various three letter agencies weren't backing her up.

Okay, the narrative for this has gotten so goddamn muddy that I feel it's worth breaking a few things down.
Dominion does not hold any sway over votes or our counting of them. They develop hardware and software for voting and tabulating machines.
Now, when it comes to the machines themselves, there are two methods that the US employs based on each state.
Precinct Voting and Central Voting.
Precinct Voting is when the voting machine is set to a specific are and does not connect in any way to a server. These machines are closed networks that are physically picked up and totaled later.
Central Voting is where each machine in a state's various precincts are connected to a centralized server that compiles and totals votes for that state.

There is zero times in which this information goes anywhere outside of the states as even if they were sent back to Dominion HQ & Manufacturing, it would most likely go to their Denver, Colorado branch. And if they were -for whatever crazy reason- to leave the country, they would go to Canada to their Toronto branch

So I don't think we have much to worry about, it would also be incredibly unlikely that a massive hack could take place by China or Russia or whomever because they would have an incredibly short amount of time to hack Central Voting systems, and even then, they would ONLY get the Central systems of that state.
As for Precinct Voting systems being hacked they would have to physically infiltrate and sabotage those machines.
Which is again, unlikely.

From one of the affidavits:
A Man-in-the-Middle (MITM) cyber attack was carried out by covert operators using sophisticated tools, such as Hammer and Scorecard. The MITM attack occurred in two ways. Initially, remote operatives used USB memory cards containing cryptographic keys and access system backdoors to alter votes in battleground states. Subsequently, the results were forwarded to Scytl/SOE Software servers located in Frankfurt, Germany (previously, Barcelona, Spain). The MITM attack was structured to ensure sufficient data alteration had occurred prior to forwarding the tallied results to the Scytl/eClarity Software Electronic Night Reporting (ENR) system. The reason election data are forwarded overseas is to avoid detection and monitoring by the USIC to obfuscate the MITM.
The guy seems to be alleging that some machines were altered using USB sticks. Results were somehow sent to Germany, which means the information did get out of the states. I have no clue how this could have happened. Either he's lying or the machines aren't working the way we're told they are.
 
From one of the affidavits:

The guy seems to be alleging that some machines were altered using USB sticks. Results were somehow sent to Germany, which means the information did get out of the states. I have no clue how this could have happened. Either he's lying or the machines aren't working the way we're told they are.
That doesn't make any sense, though. Why would they send the results to Germany and why would the states take results that were in Germany? His logic makes no sense from a security perspective. He's just trying to back the "US TROOPS GRABBED SERVERS IN GERMANY" bullshit. I question this guy's background

I think there's no reliable source right now. Most people who want to spread accurate information suck at fact checking and are prone to letting their emotions get in the way. You gotta look at various sources from both sides and decide for yourself what seems the most plausible.


What's wrong with this?
Yeah, read the whole affidavit. He's assuming some huge things, most of which were proven untrue. I looked up the guy and he's kind of insane. He's one of those bitcoin crypto nuts and claims to have a government background with no actual dates given, which means he's probably made up his government service. He also claims to have a PhD with no schools or dates given and has no research papers published.
 
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Rudy, Sidney and their elite boomer strikeforce would believe viewing a email subheading was proof of hacking.

I don't even think Rudy can send emails by himself but yet he took millions in fees from Eastern European politicians as a "cyber security expert" lol. At least Trump can use twitter, I think even that's beyond Rudy tech capabilities.
 
That doesn't make any sense, though. Why would they send the results to Germany and why would the states take results that were in Germany? His logic makes no sense from a security perspective. He's just trying to back the "US TROOPS GRABBED SERVERS IN GERMANY" bullshit. I question this guy's background

Results were supposedly sent overseas for disaster recovery and backup purposes.
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It's possible he's lying about his credentials. Looking up his name doesn't bring up very much.
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He does admit he hasn't had the opportunity to examine the voting machines firsthand, which does put a dent in his credibility imo.
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It's possible he's lying about his credentials. Looking up his name doesn't bring up very much.
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It looks like he has a doctor of education from GWU: https://scholarspace.library.gwu.edu/downloads/m039k5047?locale=en

However, it's not in cyber security and was done in 2011. If he really did it and then did research and worked like he said he did, there'd be more of an electronic footprint of his work since it was so recent. He also has no published research
 
Yeah, read the whole affidavit. He's assuming some huge things, most of which were proven untrue.
As in? Post what said things are and where they were proven untrue. It's always good to post links, vids, articles, etc.
I looked up the guy and he's kind of insane.
The first article I found was from the New York Times praising him back in September: https://archive.md/MRb9G
He's one of those bitcoin crypto nuts
"Nuts" in what way?
and claims to have a government background
The article I posted makes those claims for him, too. He could be legit but sketchy (working with government agencies up to the CIA answers that) or he could just be some kind of name-for-hire with vague connections to make him sound more credible, a guy anyone can use to bolster a case or subject.
We'll see how it pans out regardless but more digging is good.

Edit: Here's another article from September calling Keshavarz-Nia "hero" for helping to expose that guy Courtney (really?) who posed as a CIA agent for a fraud scheme with government contractors: https://archive.md/BiYaC
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So it seems Keshavarz-Nia was attracted by the phony's task force "Alpha214" because he had worked with the alphabets previously. After being contracted and getting shafted he realized he was being taken advantage of and left. Then the investigation began.

Edit 2: I ran into mentions of his work with not just the alphabets but with banks, too, especially the Deutsche Bank (a big German multinational investment bank that's dual listed in the NY and German stock exchange).
Another article from a less clean looking site mentioned he worked on cybersecurity for Deutsche Bank through his LLC "Black Key Solutions", which he was or is supposedly the VP and senior director of info security for.
Here's the Bizpedia info for Black Key Solutions with the filing date, etc. https://www.bizapedia.com/va/black-key-solutions-llc.html

Don't know if any of this helps. I haven't gone digging since back before Epstein wasn't even arrested (the second time). My shovel's rusty.
 
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As in? Post what said things are and where they were proven untrue. It's always good to post links, vids, articles, etc.

The first article I found was from the New York Times praising him back in September: https://archive.md/MRb9G

"Nuts" in what way?

The article I posted makes those claims for him, too. He could be legit but sketchy (working with government agencies up to the CIA answers that) or he could just be some kind of name-for-hire with vague connections to make him sound more credible, a guy anyone can use to bolster a case or subject.
We'll see how it pans out regardless but more digging is good.
He claimed the whole Venezuela thing, which is totally bullshit. Especially since a lot of the counties don't even use that software anyway.

He also claims to have worked with MIT, but if he worked with MIT, there'd be some mention of it on their site. MIT has a shitton of PhDs and graduate students, there's no way they'd use him without mentioning it
 
It looks like he has a doctor of education from GWU: https://scholarspace.library.gwu.edu/downloads/m039k5047?locale=en

However, it's not in cyber security and was done in 2011. If he really did it and then did research and worked like he said he did, there'd be more of an electronic footprint of his work since it was so recent. He also has no published research

This is the only research I found from him:

Yeah.. he seems like a quack. I guess that's not surprising, all things considered. This dude has basically zero online footprint. If he is indeed a quack, he'll be laughed out of court. We'll see in a few days.
 
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He claimed the whole Venezuela thing, which is totally bullshit.
Bullshit in what way?

Especially since a lot of the counties don't even use that software anyway.
According to Reuters (for what that's worth) the system is used in more than just the swing states: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-dominion-software-trump-law-idUSKBN27S2Z9
Thousands of social media users have been sharing posts which claim that software from Dominion Voting Systems (a company that supplies election technology) is used in the same six states where President Trump is filing lawsuits in connection with the presidential election, suggesting that Dominion Voting is responsible for election fraud. These posts, however, are misleading. Dominion Voting systems were used in at least 24 states.
So the software is used across the country, just not universally, and wherever the software is used it can be exploited, which is what early reports better diggers than us discovered at the start of all this (it's in the other thread). Also we have the Fraction Magic expose from back in 2016 to show how it doesn't take much to change much with fractional voting.

He also claims to have worked with MIT, but if he worked with MIT, there'd be some mention of it on their site.
Meh, he's repeatedly mentioned as being career affiliated with the alphabets. I don't think finding overt mentions or dates of spook friends' careers or school history is feasible.
Again, though, he could just be a guy who floats in that sphere but isn't what everyone thinks he is, hence my alternative of him being a face-for-hire. I can't even really find much on him except that big September break.
 
Bullshit in what way?


According to Reuters (for what that's worth) the system is used in more than just the swing states: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-dominion-software-trump-law-idUSKBN27S2Z9

So the software is used across the country, just not universally, and wherever the software is used it can be exploited, which is what early reports better diggers than us discovered at the start of all this (it's in the other thread). Also we have the Fraction Magic expose from back in 2016 to show how it doesn't take much to change much with fractional voting.


Meh, he's repeatedly mentioned as being career affiliated with the alphabets. I don't think finding overt mentions or dates of spook friends' careers or school history is feasible.
Again, though, he could just be a guy who floats in that sphere but isn't what everyone thinks he is, hence my alternative of him being a face-for-hire. I can't even really find much on him except that big September break.
Right, but the software isn't used in all of the counties where he claims it is.

And yeah, the whole "Venezuela started Dominion software to hack elections" is a pretty well-deunked conspiracy theory that is only floated around by QBoomers like Sidney Powell. This "expert" also has a lot of conjecture in his claim, which isn't going to hold up in any court. You can say "it's theoretically possible this happened", but the judge isn't going to consider that as proof that it did happen. I can say it's theoretically possible that Bill Gates is my actual father and thus I am entitled to his money, but that doesn't mean it's true.
 
There are protests today in Lansin Michigan and other places over election BS.
PLEASE don't go out and protest. It's a trap. No good will come of it. Stay home and write letters to your congressman or Penthouse or whatever people write letters to when they're frustrated. Shouting at each other in the street just makes you vulnerable and possibly puts you in the postition to be used as a pawn in some weird thing.
Plus, you know, it's still a pandemic.
 
This is the only research I found from him:

Yeah.. he seems like a quack. I guess that's not surprising, all things considered. This dude has basically zero online footprint. If he is indeed a quack, he'll be laughed out of court. We'll see in a few days.
Well now wait a second, this doesn't seem like "quack" at all once you parse academic lingo. It seems like simple research bloviated with pseudo-intellectual in-terms that sound insane on the face of it--like most research papers.
Check out the definition:
A synthetic world (Castronova, 2005) is a graphical, three-dimensional, computer-generated environment in which individuals participate as avatars (user representations) to share information for social, competitive, and economic activities with globally distributed others (Schultze et al., 2008 ).
So it's the pompous autist's term for an MMO or Second Life or something.
The synthetic world is comprised of places constructed within cyberspace that are intended to accommodate many individuals. By extension, it is a synchronous, persistent people-centric network, a digital representation, and a computer network-facilitated platform that imparts a unique contribution beyond that of traditional knowledge management systems (Bell, 2008 ).
Once you sort through the verbage it's not as nutty as it sounds, again like most research papers. I remember when I first tried studying Dr. Greg Bahnsen's dissertation on Theonomy and feeling the same way. Quoting established terms, no matter how odd they are, adds credibility both to the research and its author(s), at least in the perception of academia.

Look:
Castronova (2005) uses the term “synthetic” as opposed to “virtual” world to emphasize the penetrability of the world’s boundaries. The synthetic world cannot, nor is it meant to be, completely separate from the external environment. Rather, individuals move in and out of the synthetic space at will; carrying their behavioral assumptions, attitudes, information and knowledge with them (Castronova, 2005).
In normal brain speak this just means "This guy called it 'synthetic' rather than 'virtual' because it's not a closed space of self-contained info and people can log in/out at-will. I will use the term this guy did."
I'm telling you research paper bloviation is retarded.

Anyway, at least we know the guy actually does have a PhD and actually is listed as one of five authors for a published paper, one that involves information and cyberspace as concepts, which itself lends to the credibility of this guy working in those fields. It stitches together with his LLC's operations and his supposed work for the Deutche Bank in cyber security, and it adds to his involvement in the fake CIA bust back in September.

But does all of this mean we can just take his word for it? Well no, but that's where waiting and seeing what happens comes in.
 
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