Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Biden didn't win. Nothing about this election was plausible. You have TDS if you are arguing otherwise in good faith.

If the dems hadn't engineered mass mail-in ballots via Covid propaganda (you can do drive-through COVID testing but not voting? Yeah okay.),

If the mass media empire hadn't moved in total coordinated lockstep,

If Biden had run a presidential campaign,

If Trump hadn't taken over 70 million votes,

If Trump hadn't filled huge arenas all over the country in the leadup,

If there hadn't been massive irregularities,

If the states in which these irregularities happened didn't all use the same sketchy voting systems run by people with links to the DNC political machine,

Then maybe you could successfully gaslight me into thinking Biden won because people just hate Trump that much.
No one's trying to "gaslight" you. Is it really so hard to believe that lots of people simply disagree with you about who should be president? Hell, I voted for Biden despite not especially liking him.

If all the news sources you consume spent the past year showing you images of big crowds cheering on Trump, and emphasizing how enthusiastic and numerous his followers are, I can understand why the election result would come as a shock. But that's not how things look from all angles. It never hurts to broaden your news consumption to include sources whose viewpoint you may not agree with.
 
No one's trying to "gaslight" you. Is it really so hard to believe that lots of people simply disagree with you about who should be president? Hell, I voted for Biden despite not especially liking him.

If all the news sources you consume spent the past year showing you images of big crowds cheering on Trump, and emphasizing how enthusiastic and numerous his followers are, I can understand why the election result would come as a shock. But that's not how things look from all angles. It never hurts to broaden your news consumption to include sources whose viewpoint you may not agree with.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Please go ahead and post the photos of the Biden crowds that my media was hiding from me.

This is how I know you're not arguing in good faith. Texas even had a lawsuit about drive-through voting during the early voting period that was defended in court.
How is a (dumb) GOP challenge to drive-through voting in Texas a rebuke of drive-through voting vs mail-in voting?
 
How is a (dumb) GOP challenge to drive-through voting in Texas a rebuke of drive-through voting vs mail-in voting?
You're implying that the dems were very much against drive-through voting in favor of mail-in voting. You're right in that they did encourage mail-in voting due to Covid concerns, but at no point did they seek to outlaw or prevent people from doing drive-through voting or to stop drive-through ballots from counting, unlike what we're seeing with these millions of lawsuits regarding mail-ins.
 
I still don't get how people don't understand this.

Trump lost because people didn't like him, and were sick of all the chaos his very existence somehow generates. They didn't like Biden, or Harris, but at least they weren't Trump.

It's literally the same thing that happened back in 2016.

A good chunk of people didn't vote for Trump because they liked him. They voted for him because he wasn't Hillary. Either that, or they didn't vote at all. Fastforward four years later, and after seeing how much insanity Trump's presidency has caused, of course people are gonna be motivated to get him out of office. On top of all that, voting from home has become more accessible than ever, so naturally there was going to be a record turn-out of voters.

This isn't hard to get.

Hillary lost back in 2016 because no one outside of her small rabid fanbase liked her.

This year Trump has lost for that exact same reason.
 
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Please go ahead and post the photos of the Biden crowds that my media was hiding from me.
There are people who didn't attend any Biden rallies but who still voted for Biden because their vote was informed less by enthusiasm for Biden than by opposition to Trump.

Also, Biden's campaign took measures like setting up "drive-in" rallies where attendees didn't have to crowd together to participate. I'm not claiming that this was out of pure goodheartedness on the part of the Biden campaign; their message was that Biden would take the coronavirus pandemic more seriously than Trump has, and this approach was a way to reinforce that message during the campaign.
 
Biden didn't win. Nothing about this election was plausible. You have TDS if you are arguing otherwise in good faith.

If the dems hadn't engineered mass mail-in ballots via Covid propaganda (you can do drive-through COVID testing but not voting? Yeah okay.),

If the mass media empire hadn't moved in total coordinated lockstep,

If Biden had run a presidential campaign,

If Trump hadn't taken over 70 million votes,

If Trump hadn't filled huge arenas all over the country in the leadup,

If there hadn't been massive irregularities,

If the states in which these irregularities happened didn't all use the same sketchy voting systems run by people with links to the DNC political machine,

Then maybe you could successfully gaslight me into thinking Biden won because people just hate Trump that much.
Gaslight? Are you “triggered” by the term of President-Elect Biden too? I’m amused at Trump supporters using terms they have derided the left and SJWs for using.

The loss of a fucking politician reality TV star has them dipping into an emotional well they didn’t know even existed. Sad!
 
This year Trump has lost for that exact same reason.
...and it had nothing to do with the rushed deployment of mail-in-voting which has no chain of custody or security to speak of which resulted in widespread record-setting wins for only one party.

Gaslight? Are you “triggered” by the term of President-Elect Biden too? I’m amused at Trump supporters using terms they have derided the left and SJWs for using.

The loss of a fucking politician reality TV star has them dipping into an emotional well they didn’t know even existed. Sad!
I'm 100% triggered by the concept of Biden taking the white house. A CCP puppet installed in the executive is going to lead to a sharp decline in my personal quality of life.
 
I'm 100% triggered by the concept of Biden taking the white house. A CCP puppet installed in the executive is going to lead to a sharp decline in my personal quality of life.

I'm curious, what exactly do you think he will do that will affect your quality of life?
 
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I'm 100% triggered by the concept of Biden taking the white house. A CCP puppet installed in the executive is going to lead to a sharp decline in my personal quality of life.
Biden is more likely to go to the hilt to back Japan and Taiwan than Trump was. Especially Japan. A multi-national coalition with clearly defined claimed territory is easier to sell and justify than whatever the fuck Trump’s East Asia policy was. Pushing the Chinese out of the SCS wasn’t going to happen when you were flaky with alliances and didn’t offer any kind of economic pact that applied to everyone, and it wasn’t going to happen when you promised everyone with a claim there that you’d back it - especially when there’s a lot of competing claims. The Trump admin also delayed a shipment of weapons and aircraft testing with Vietnam, a critical ally if you want to really put the hurt on China.
 
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People want Trump to concede not because they’re bitter, but because they want him to behave like a civilized adult. Needless to say, they’re bound to be disappointed.
You're not 100% accurate here.
A huge part of the narrative in the leadup to the election, during the election, and after the election, has been focused on how the left wanted this election to be a clear "referendum" against Trump. If you doubt this, browse through media coverage and prominently displayed opinion pieces on sites like WaPo and NYT - I won't post specific examples because there are quite a few and they're easy to find. But that was the desire - to have an election that was such a humiliating, decisive loss for Trump that they would get to circlejerk for the next 4 years over Orange Man but in the context of "Orange Man LOSE!"

What they got instead was a Pyrrhic victory. Trump gained voters among the minority groups everyone swore wanted his head on a plate, he gained millions of votes compared to 2016, he got his SCOTUS picks in before the election, and the GOP is still set to control the Senate, aka the body of Congress that actually matters. To add a piss filled cherry to the shit sundae they now have over 70 million people pissed off about the results and quite a few of those people believe the election was outright stolen from Trump in a coup attempt. Whether or not that bit is true is tbd but it doesn't exactly shape up to a positive outlook over the next 4 years if you're a Democrat.

So they need Trump to concede to try and salvage any of this situation but he is refusing and it's amping up his base even more and giving more fuel to the fire. And that absolutely pisses them the fuck off and makes them bitter because this was supposed to go so much more smoothly for them. They're bitter because of what the results symbolize - that despite their best efforts, Orange Man still became even more powerful and gained even more votes.

You might be speaking from your own experience when you talk about wanting him to behave like a civilized adult. Good on you. My experience however, which has involved reading bullshit from both sides for the last 4 years in the leadup to this election year, has shown me that there aren't many civilized adults on either side really. And while the right tends to look down and pass judgment from a religious/moral stance, the left 100% also loves to assume the high road in their minds and pretend they are the shining city on the hill, looking down at all of us unwashed masses in disgust. tldr it's not so much that most of them want or even care about him acting like a civilized adult and it's disingenuous to even attempt to say so. If Trump had conceded on day one there would still be a very large portion of the political left who would still mock his decision to do so, only instead of "what a baby, Trump won't even concede" it would be "holy shit what a baby Trump conceded".
 
Immediately? A national lockdown which will lead to the instant death of two of the companies my wife works for which will decimate our income.
Any actual breakdown of specific itemized things Biden would do would be scoffed at. Each item would be viewed in a vaccum and derided as trivial. No consideration would be made for their cumulative effects or the fact that they are merely single steps on an infinitely long stairway to hell.
 
Immediately? A national lockdown which will lead to the instant death of two of the companies my wife works for which will decimate our income.
National lockdown won’t happen. The best chance for that to happen was early on. It’s all state level responses.
 
I'm 100% triggered by the concept of Biden taking the white house. A CCP puppet installed in the executive is going to lead to a sharp decline in my personal quality of life.
Hahaha. The only reason Trump beat his chest with Poo Bear is because he wouldn’t forgive all the loans they gave to Trump, which he totally expected.

www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475

The accusations of Biden being China’s pawn before he even takes office is bizarre fantasy and yet more cope from sufferers of TES.
 
People fucking hate trump. This election was a referendum on Trump with a high vote turnout. No shit he got more votes than anyone else.
That's the long and short of it. Deluded well-drinkers are cultish in their idolatry to the point that they are unable to consider that there is a huge faction of people that dislike their daddy when presented with reasons for high turnout.
 
That's the long and short of it. Deluded well-drinkers are cultish in their idolatry to the point that they are unable to consider that there is a huge faction of people that dislike their daddy when presented with reasons for high turnout.
If you're telling me that the media narrative about people hating Trump is accurate, I simply don't believe you.
 
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