Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

[Felis Meanis]

At this point, with how much of a shitshow this has been, something a lot of people should be asking is "What comes next?"

Assume, for a moment, that this drama is all performative in nature. Someone's putting on a play for us, a morality play that is supposed to teach a lesson. What lesson is that? That the system is broken? That elites will not brook their plans being upended? That people are unwilling to accept things that don't go their way?

Who will take what lesson away from this? Nothing about this feels right. There is no decisive victory for either side at this point in time. Are there even two sides? Are there MORE than two sides? Who has what kind of skin in the game?

If the Dems were cheating, why not go whole hog and roll out a decisive Biden victory and game the shit out of the House/Senate races too? If this election had monumental importance to people (hence record turnout), why is that not a consistent pattern everywhere? If a ballot with just the Presidential race voted on is clearly suspect, why turn in a bunch of ballots with just that marked? If there are special markers on the ballots to prevent fake ones from being counted, how common is that knowledge?

The Dems seemed to have been banking on either the fix being in or it being a foregone conclusion that Trump would be largely rejected for reelection, because holy fuck was their ground game weak. Their candidates are uninspiring at best and polarizing at worst. Meanwhile, the GOP apparently lost ground with a demographic they shouldn't have lost ground with - did they actually take white men for granted or are the pundits just assuming that white men love being pandered to and the GOP didn't pander hard enough? There's this weird assumption I see that you really need to kiss a demographic's ass super-hard on the basis of their demographic information in order to successfully court them. Are they saying that any given demographic will place "Kiss my ass for being white/black/Hispanic/female/etc." over addressing matters that might have a lot of commonality between demographics? What evidence do they have that bears that conclusion out?

Democracy as it's been sold to us has, at best, been a very brief phenomenon in the history of mankind. Looking not just at history, but at contemporary societies, America has been the clear outliner when it comes to its emphasis on freedom and the people's vote. We're now witnessing a very bold and shameful display to what is and has been the normal state of affairs since the dawn of our species. What people also have to understand is that decisions made at the highest order will not necessarily transfer down the chain of command in terms of being enforced. Your local mailman, or that asshole neighbour who holds a position with some authority at some local municipality, will make sure of that. People will undermine democracy at grassroots level, and if you want to combat them you'll have to organaize an opposition yourself and do the dirty work. That some smoothbrained morons in this thread can't conceive of, for example, that Antifa or some other cunts are organizing themselves in order to achieve ballot fraud is downright flabbergasting to me. There's plenty of material online to read about how these people coordinate themselves, and they're good at what they do. That they have a large chunk of the mainstream media with them, albeit for different reasons, doesn't make things easier. Saul Alinsky would be proud.

As is ever the case, democracy is only as strong as the people are willing to work for it. If you loosen up in being politically active on the most fundamental level, you'll lose it. Weak men and good times and all that jazz.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

How is voter ID even a debate in America? You need an ID(which you have to pay for) to vote in my country, and I'm pretty sure the rest of Europe is the same. Not even the biggest lunatics would argue against it, in fact voting fraud still happens so lots of people are for even harsher proof of identity.

The Democratic argument is literally "minorities are too poor to afford a $20 ID and too retarded to find the DMV to get it at, therefore it is racist."

I wish I was joking. There's a good bit where someone from Fox stands in the middle of Harlem and just asks blacks if they know where the DMV is and if they have an ID, of course the all say yes. He also asks whites if voter ID laws are racist, and they all say yes for the reasons given above.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

How is voter ID even a debate in America? You need an ID(which you have to pay for) to vote in my country, and I'm pretty sure the rest of Europe is the same. Not even the biggest lunatics would argue against it, in fact voting fraud still happens so lots of people are for even harsher proof of identity.

The legal reason is that it's a constitutional thing. You cannot have a poll tax, and since IDs aren't free, it's considered to violate that.

If IDs are made free and easy to get, sure, I have no problem with it. I just don't think it's necessary and is a fix to a problem that doesn't exist.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

I wish you guys would figure out what I am. I've been accused of being hispanic, indian, Chinese, and am either a janitor, nurse, or orderly, and also am either really poor, upper middle class or a trust fund kid. Which am I?

You forgot faggot. We can all agree you're a faggot. Are you trying to hide your faggotry?

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

The Constitution states that "The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States."

So I suppose a Constitutional argument could be made that any votes received after Election Day are void. Kind of an autistic argument, but that's half of what lawyering is about.

Electoral college votes at the same time across the country. That's what that's referring to.

It can't be read to refer to the voting bloc, as "the time of choosing the electors" makes no sense at that point, and "Electors" is generally a word pointed towards the electoral college.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

The legal reason is that it's a constitutional thing. You cannot have a poll tax, and since IDs aren't free, it's considered to violate that.

If IDs are made free and easy to get, sure, I have no problem with it. I just don't think it's necessary and is a fix to a problem that doesn't exist.

Something that is difficult to prosecute does not mean it does not exist.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

The legal reason is that it's a constitutional thing. You cannot have a poll tax, and since IDs aren't free, it's considered to violate that.

If IDs are made free and easy to get, sure, I have no problem with it. I just don't think it's necessary and is a fix to a problem that doesn't exist.

Incorrect. There has never been a constitutional challenge to voter ID laws.

 

[Rekkington]

The legal reason is that it's a constitutional thing. You cannot have a poll tax, and since IDs aren't free, it's considered to violate that.

If IDs are made free and easy to get, sure, I have no problem with it. I just don't think it's necessary and is a fix to a problem that doesn't exist.

It's so easy to get an ID what the fuck are you even talking about. Having an ID is not a poll tax you maniac.
We get your way, in 2 years it's "why does anyone need a birth certificate to be a citizen? That is RACIST."
There's more black people with drivers licenses than high school diplomas, so don't throw that out there.

 

[Revo]

We've fittingly reached page 666, cause this entire election (and thread) is Hell.

or a circus

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

It's so easy to get an ID what the fuck are you even talking about.
We get your way, in 2 years it's "why does anyone need a birth certificate to be a citizen? That is RACIST."

Don't blame me, I didn't write the constitution. I am just saying that's the legal argument. I thought you Trumpers were all for following the constitution?

 

[Meth Kennedy]

I promise you that the dip in white voters in fucking Wisconsin and Michigan didn't occur because of Nazis alone. Lmao. I am 100% sure it is because being an aggressive, annoying, loudmouth cunt from New York turns off mild mannered Midwestern Republicans.

You're definitely right that Trump is an annoying sperg and I feel the same way, but in this case it might be a bit of both. Wisconsin and Michigan are special though so even though I think Trump lost those fair and square they do have instances of irregularities so we'll have to wait and see.

 

[The Sauce Boss]

Don't blame me, I didn't write the constitution. I am just saying that's the legal argument. I thought you Trumpers were all for following the constitution?

Nobody in either major political party cares about the Constitution until it agrees with them, and that's a fact.

 

[LUNEKO]

If IDs are made free and easy to get, sure, I have no problem with it. I just don't think it's necessary and is a fix to a problem that doesn't exist.

Mexico requires you to have ID to vote, but the Mexican IDs are free and you just have to make a date with the local goverment office, at this point even Mexican elections are more legit and functional

 

[Spoonge]

Worked really well for Japan in 1944. Lmao.

The Pacific Theatre was a type of brutal few of us could understand. The climax of which was a firebombing campaign and nuclear strike against a nation a third of the size of China because frankly, the US would have lost a staggering amount of soldiers invading it.
But sure man. Lets have a repeat of that.

 

[Nobunaga]

This whole affair will turn into a major scandal. What will history call it? I bet they'll just call it the "2020 election scandal," but we here, right now, can shape history by coming up with a good name that future generations can adore. Give me your best scandal names

Faggotgate

 

[metroid_fetish]

We should outsource all of our jobs elections to Mexico.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Mexico requires you to have ID to vote, but the Mexican IDs are free and you just have to make a date with the local goverment office, at this point even Mexican elections are more legit and functional

Yeah, if the US did that, then I don't think anyone would have a problem with it. But constitutionally, you cannot have a poll tax, and making people pay to vote (even if it's for an ID) is considered a poll tax.

The thing is, it's such a negligible amount that it happens it's just not really an issue. Voting fraudulently that way would be a really inefficient way of doing it. The logistics behind it (getting addresses and names of people who hadn't yet voted) and the fact you'd only be able to do it a few times (at most) per polling place just makes it not efficient. Way easier to just destroy ballots or whatever.

 

[LUNEKO]

We should outsource all of our jobs elections to Mexico.

shhhhh that's the secret Jeb! guac plan

 

[A Cardboard Box]

The Pacific Theatre was a type of brutal none of us could comprehend. The climax of which was a firebombing campaign and nuclear strike against a nation a third of the size of China because frankly, the US would have lost a staggering amount of soldiers invading it.
But sure man. Lets have a repeat of that.

Non sequitur. I was talking about carriers, not the invasion of Japan. Japan got assraped to death after its carriers got blowed up, and no amount of flooding tiny islands with yellow people saved them.

 

[Smarty Pants]

The logistics behind it (getting addresses and names of people who hadn't yet voted) and the fact you'd only be able to do it a few times (at most) per polling place just makes it not efficient.

In what world is that a logistics problem lmfao