Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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This thread really brings out the worst In most quality users, either people get deranged about the possibility of a rigging and unjust election which understandable because the security of 4 years prior was the same and people have merely become acclimatised to a constant state of an Insecure Russian monitored Interwebz. Or they trip over themselves to be bait trolls to piss off Legitimate Trump supporters with strawmanning that would make an evangelical Christian group blush. Just calm down and let the elections take its course, If Biden wins It really Isn't the end of America, Just like those with derangement syndrome In which we mock so thoroughly In one of biggest threads thought so at the time. He's a lame duck as others have said and he probably wont do much In the grand scheme of things, if Trump wins, the fallout will be hilarious and will please the wishes of most here and wont necessarily lead to the disaster state those millions with TDS believe It will. So calm the shit down people and Just remember, whoever the winner Is, thank christ the candidate doesn't contain the Surname Bush, Case In Point.
You type like a fucking retard.
 
No, it refers to both. The time of choosing the electors is the time frame. Congress has always set that, first as any time during an about 30 day time frame, and later as the first Tuesday in November. Hence the use of "time" as Congress could, and has, allowed it to vary by state.

The clause also requires Congress to set a specific day for those electors to cast their votes, hence the use of the word "day."

Also remember that the constitution says nothing about requiring states to hold a popular vote for President. The states could decide to just have State Senators meet and choose the President, or have a dog choose between pieces of meat stamped with candidate names.

Here's the entire text of Article II:

Section 1​







The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows







Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.







The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.







The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.







No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.







In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.







The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be encreased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.







Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:– I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.





Section 2​







The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.







He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.







The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.





Section 3​




He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.





Section 4​




The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The first mention of "Electors" comes in Article I, "The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature."
 
I'm European and I'm kind of pro Trump man, calm down. I don't know the intricacies of the US register of citizens, how does the system for issuing a passport look? Couldn't a similar system be used? IDs wouldn't need place of residence to work for voting, a list of registered voters in a district could make up for that. I would have no issue with IDs being difficult to obtain, you need a passport or an expiring ID to get one issued here or the process gets complicated. Fuck their whining, the IDs would be free, if you want to vote go through the process or shut up.
I don't know why people cussing on this board is now seen as being angry and unhinged lol. I'm calm, dude.
Having a passport is a legal ID. So if the argument is having a passport is too complicated for people... then what?
To get a passport you need other ID, you need to prove citizenship and have a birth certificate. These are also valid for voter ID. Okay so if the problem is that's somehow too hard for these "marginalized" Americans... whaaaaaaat can you do? How do you get ID to, according to these people, all these poor Americans who cannot possibly have any ID?
 
I think I figured out why I haven't accepted Biden as president.
I understand Trump's star power. I understood Obama's, too. I didn't like Dubya, or Hillary, but I respected them. I appreciated their determination and force of will.

But I don't respect Biden. I didn't when he was VP and every time I picture him as president I think of him on the debate stage against Trump, impotently yelling ''you're the worst president we've ever had", his body language not of a confident leader, but of someone clearly uncomfortable with the situation, clearly not at ease with being challenged, and undeniably past his prime.
I get he won't be the real power, but the media can't even keep up the pretense. Kamala didn't have that star power either which is likely why her role this past month has been more akin to a movie extra than a viable political force.
 
And they'll never get them. Thats a bag of cats nobody wants to fucking open.
It's literally a part of US doctrine. Russia stalls in Warsaw at the Vistula, so they give the go ahead for chemical release. The US has no chemical weapons, and cannot just refuse to answer a WMD strike, so they release tactical nuclear weapons, generally B-61 air dropped dial-a-nukes.

Same thing in Korea. Intense shelling diminishes US strength on the DMZ, Seoul is encircled, 2 divisions of Marines backed by 4th ID and the 101st relieve the city, North Korea's supply lines collapse and their artillery positions are obliterated by US air supremacy, and the North panicks and ripple fires chemical rockets into Seoul. Same thing, the only response the US has is nuclear weapons.

Using tactical nuclear strikes to regain the initiative is literally taught in field officer 101.
 
This thread really brings out the worst In most quality users, either people get deranged about the possibility of a rigging and unjust election which understandable because the security of 4 years prior was the same and people have merely become acclimatised to a constant state of an Insecure Russian monitored Interwebz. Or they trip over themselves to be bait trolls to piss off Legitimate Trump supporters with strawmanning that would make an evangelical Christian group blush. Just calm down and let the elections take its course, If Biden wins It really Isn't the end of America, Just like those with derangement syndrome In which we mock so thoroughly In one of biggest threads thought so at the time. He's a lame duck as others have said and he probably wont do much In the grand scheme of things, if Trump wins, the fallout will be hilarious and will please the wishes of most here and wont necessarily lead to the disaster state those millions with TDS believe It will. So calm the shit down people and Just remember, whoever the winner Is, thank christ the candidate doesn't contain the Surname Bush, Case In Point.
Imo the worse kind is the faggots that write whole paragraph thinking people actually read that shit
 
It's literally a part of US doctrine. Russia stalls in Warsaw at the Vistula, so they give the go ahead for chemical release. The US has no chemical weapons, and cannot just refuse to answer a WMD strike, so they release tactical nuclear weapons, generally B-61 air dropped dial-a-nukes.

Same thing in Korea. Intense shelling diminishes US strength on the DMZ, Seoul is encircled, 2 divisions of Marines backed by 4th ID and the 101st relieve the city, North Korea's supply lines collapse and their artillery positions are obliterated by US air supremacy, and the North panicks and ripple fires chemical rockets into Seoul. Same thing, the only response the US has is nuclear weapons.

Using tactical nuclear strikes to regain the initiative is literally taught in field officer 101.

If only MacArthur got the call to use nukes in the korean war.
 
So let's say you want to commit voter fraud like that.

You would have to find a person in each district who is registered, yet who you know for sure hasn't voted yet. Then, you'd have to stand in line to vote for 30 minutes and hope no one recognizes you. You'd be changing the vote by 1 vote every 30 minutes, at best. And that's assuming you don't get busted by poll workers that recognize you and doesn't include travel time between polls.

It's just a completely retarded way to commit voter fraud.
Let me try and explain this so even you can understand. Voter fraud is incredibly rare because of what you just cited. Election fraud however is what I am talking about. I literally said that poll workers can fill out ballots behind the scenes in some of these places, particularly where you have only paper ballots. A poll worker can easily do a hundred of them. The only paper trail then you could use to try and challenge that is signature but that's even if you get the challenge to go that far because on the face of it what you will have is a registered voters ballot. That is why it's such a difficult form of fraud to disrupt. Come on man, you cannot be this dense.
 
>Only needing 5 votes to beat Trump
>Literally everyone that can run interference for Biden has
>Instead of just pulling the trigger during Election Day and take advantage of everything being in it's place, you fucking decide to stall, just so it's not just the Trump drones calling your people cheaters.


Are the Dems really trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again?
 
Same day registration on a mail in ballot heavy election?

I admit that I can be misinterpreting into what i want to hear for gigacope but it just seems like so many oddities that just happen to favor biden in key places.
Historical turnout was expected. We got it. Your numbers of registered voters was off by several orders of magnitude. "Same day" doesn't mean literally same day. A lot of states require you to be registered for 2-4 weeks before an election to vote, so when I say "same day" I really mean "last minute."
 
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Let me try and explain this so even you can understand. Voter fraud is incredibly rare because of what you just cited. Election fraud however is what I am talking about. I literally said that poll workers can fill out ballots behind the scenes in some of these places, particularly where you have only paper ballots. A poll worker can easily do a hundred of them. The only paper trail then you could use to try and challenge that is signature but that's even if you get the challenge to go that far because on the face of it what you will have is a registered voters ballot. That is why it's such a difficult form of fraud to disrupt. Come on man, you cannot be this dense.
So how would a voter ID law change this? It's not like they scan in IDs when you do vote where there are voter ID laws
 
We were dronestriking targets in libya as recently as 2019. Funny to see you've ignored our involvement in the yemeni and syrian civil wars.
What is the American involvement in those civil wars for the past 4 years? Cause remember, we are talking about America actively fighting "forever desert wars."
 
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I don't know why people cussing on this board is now seen as being angry and unhinged lol. I'm calm, dude.
Having a passport is a legal ID. So if the argument is having a passport is too complicated for people... then what?
To get a passport you need other ID, you need to prove citizenship and have a birth certificate. These are also valid for voter ID. Okay so if the problem is that's somehow too hard for these "marginalized" Americans... whaaaaaaat can you do? How do you get ID to, according to these people, all these poor Americans who cannot possibly have any ID?
 
I think I figured out why I haven't accepted Biden as president.
I understand Trump's star power. I understood Obama's, too. I didn't like Dubya, or Hillary, but I respected them. I appreciated their determination and force of will.

But I don't respect Biden. I didn't when he was VP and every time I picture him as president I think of him on the debate stage against Trump, impotently yelling ''you're the worst president we've ever had", his body language not of a confident leader, but of someone clearly uncomfortable with the situation, clearly not at ease with being challenged, and undeniably past his prime.
I get he won't be the real power, but the media can't even keep up the pretense. Kamala didn't have that star power either which is likely why her role this past month has been more akin to a movie extra than a viable political force.
In a system that wants to run these kinds of candidates they're perfect molds for whatever power group has its fingers in the DNC pie at the moment. The safe and milquetoast option is always the best to these types because they can be molded and do what the elites want.
 
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