Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Quick history on rigged voting machines from the 2004 election.

This shit isn't new. Kerry thought he'd been cheated, but was too much of a pussy to do anything about it. IIRC, there were counties in Florida that had more Bush votes than they did registered voters. He lost by two close states though, unlike Gore. I think he needed Ohio. I never really looked into whether Ohio had weird shit going on too, but it's a US election so probably.
 
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Trump was bitching about mail-in voting for months. They definitely knew they were gonna get fisted with those ballots, but I can't tell whether Trump is doing a bit or he's unironically sperging out into the ether. Tough call.
He knew he was going to be fucked by them and yet he insanely discouraged his voters from using the same tactic, as if there would be X-ray vision at every post office that would magically keep votes for him from being counted and somehow, his voters couldn't use the same mechanisms as anyone else to confirm whether they were. He's a fucking moron.
 
ITT There are actually people on both sides still speaking as if the obvious election fraud is up for debate, if not simply a "conspiracy theory"
Meanwhile, if you just scroll down a little bit to "Similar Threads" there's a (mega?)thread unencumbered by funposting started months ago that's chock full of updated evidences and information at this moment. Even if people can't just click on highlights or lurk per usual they can just scroll down to see it right there.


"You are a slow learner, Winston."
"How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."

"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”​

 
Meanwhile, if you just scroll down a little bit to "Similar Threads" there's a (mega?)thread unencumbered by funposting started months ago that's chock full of updated evidences and information at this moment.
ffs stop telling people about it. let the shitposting fun stay here. if you actually believe this thread is nothing but shitposts why are you here trying to make sincere points.
 
There hasn’t been a winner. All that’s been counted is popular voted and media predictions based on those. Said predictions are a very good indicator of who will win, so if the media across the board is saying its looking like Biden is getting away with 300 electorals or what the fuck ever, he’ll almost certainly be getting the win.

This is because America is not a direct democracy, it’s a republic, which means the popular vote is the people telling their representatives how they want them to vote, so come December when the official electoral votes are cast, unless an elector wants to lose their job and stain their career forever, they’ll vote according to the popular vote, but it’s not a guarantee.

Trump could end up with every single electoral vote and win 538 - 0. He won’t, but it’s a possibility allowed by the system.

So functionally it’s over and Biden is the winner, but it’s not official yet.
yeah biden is the winner
 
I don't see why people are saying Trump tripped himself up by telling his supporters not to vote by mail. He made a big kerfuffle about telling his voters they can vote by mail, but they should try to vote in person anyway just to be safe.
I don't know if his concern was that they'd be conveniently lost in the mail or what, but I don't think this had any impact on the outcome of any part of this election.
 
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Oh right I remember those stories from way way back in the day. Liberals used to be the ones sperging out about rigged votes before Obongo got in. There was a documentary where the guy took out a cartridge or something out of the machine and showed how you can easily fiddle with it to get the results you want.

The whole narrative that voter fraud is impossible is the most retarded thing I've seen.
 
Remember that app from the NH primary where Pete the Cheat was up in the developer's guts with his wee wee and he somehow won? Simpler times.
 
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I don't see why people are saying Trump tripped himself up by telling his supporters not to vote by mail. He made a big kerfuffle about telling his voters they can vote by mail, but they should try to vote in person anyway just to be safe.
I don't know if his concern was that they'd be conveniently lost in the mail or what, but I don't think this had any impact on the outcome of any part of this election.
He should know what morons many of his supporters are by now and that they'd take that as saying your votes would be stolen by reptilian aliens if you voted that way so you might as well not bother. He literally said they were so stupid he could just murder someone on Fifth Avenue and it wouldn't matter to his cultists. Don't tell me there aren't boomers who just didn't vote because Trump convinced them their votes wouldn't be counted by mail and for whatever reason they couldn't get to the polls on Tuesday.
 
The thing about political correctness in the 90's is it largely came about due to legislation and legal rulings, so corporations and government offices were forced to do shallow diversity training that no body liked. The counter culture at the time rejected it, because it was transparently phony and coming in from the main vectors of "The Man." But kids who grew up in the 90's are now starting to hit middle age, who their whole life had PC propaganda shoved down their throats from the education system and to a lesser extent the culture at large. This is why Intersectoinalist almost always skews toward those with college degrees.
Perfect example of the long game. All this shit people make fun of and resist now? The people imposing it don't care about you resisting it now because you'll put up with it and then your kids will grow up with it and at that point it's normal.
 
Oh right I remember those stories from way way back in the day. Liberals used to be the ones sperging out about rigged votes before Obongo got in. There was a documentary where the guy took out a cartridge or something out of the machine and showed how you can easily fiddle with it to get the results you want.

The whole narrative that voter fraud is impossible is the most retarded thing I've seen.
Back in the 00s, 80% of the voting machines were from companies run by Republican mega-donors. Now, all the machines, at least in the most populated parts of the swing states are controlled by one company with direct democrat party insider ties. I wonder if the only reason that Trump won in 2016 is that they didn't bother to rig it because they were so high on their own farts that they thought that they didn't need to.
 
Oh right I remember those stories from way way back in the day. Liberals used to be the ones sperging out about rigged votes before Obongo got in. There was a documentary where the guy took out a cartridge or something out of the machine and showed how you can easily fiddle with it to get the results you want.

The whole narrative that voter fraud is impossible is the most retarded thing I've seen.
Blame the education system that does not teach in depth about it, they gloss over the compromise of 1877 and the bargain of 1824. Rather than discussing in depth why these events are important. It's taught like something from ancient times and America is too first world for voter fraud. It also destroys the leader of the free world narrative set by neoliberals and neoconservatives if it turns out that voter fraud actually does happen.

Maybe that is why there is silence from Biden rather than telling Trump to go get fucked and declare himself the victor tonight. They don't want an investigation into this that could allow the outside world to see America has major issues.
 
This thread is almost 1000 pages long and I still haven't learned anything about the 2020 election and probably will be leaving with brain rot now

wow
A bunch of states are being faggots
Trump might have lost, but its certainly taking this to court
Theres potencial fuckery from both sides
A bunch of faggots are butthurt they got mocked for 4 years and are jumping the gun
Trumpfags are coping

There, i saved you hours of reading this shitty thread
 
That's why it's retarded to make that your legal claim and set that kind of a bar for yourself. All that has to be proven is that ballots are invalid, not fraudulent. And the idea of "voter fraud" is a mirage anyway. That's so rare as to be nearly nonexistent. Where the fraud would happen is in the counting.
To be fair, that is the case in PA - that votes are invalid (not fraudulent) because the deadline was itself unconstitutionally extended (probably an oversimplification).

There's also the unsigned ballots that the election board ordered counted, but I don't know if those are part of the existing lawsuit or will be part of a new suit.

But he's fucked there anyways. I'm pretty sure PA had agreed to track those ballots before election day, which clearly they didn't if the Repubs had to go to the Supreme Court to tell them to track 'em. PA's election board fucked him good on that one. Now he's only going to possibly get a couple thousand invalidated instead of 10s of thousands.

When it comes to voter fraud in general with mail in ballots, we have no fucking clue how often it happens because the only place it happens are so hardcore democrat that there's no need for any larger-scale fraud operation (except Utah which is so far Republican and Mormon that there's no need).

Not only that but there's only a couple of forms of fraud that are even findable. A MITM attack and ballot swap would be completely undiscoverable, for example (at least by anyone even semi-competent). The only ones they can catch and have caught are duplicate voting and fraudulent request/use of absentee ballots.

Not one single investigation into it, AFAIK, has even bothered to go door to door and ask if the person who signed the envelope actually voted. Not one study has been done to see if there was at home voter intimidation.

I'd love to see a full, deep, meaningful investigation in every single battleground state of specifically mail in ballots just so we can get some meaningful fucking data.
 
Maybe that is why there is silence from Biden rather than telling Trump to go get fucked and declare himself the victor tonight. They don't want an investigation into this that could allow the outside world to see America has major issues.
I think it's more that Biden wants to be the adult in the room and wait for the science to be settled before declaring victory. It doesn't matter in the slightest what the world thinks of America's electoral system. The legitimacy of elections is something that's put into question by America when they want to topple a government. The only geopolitical rivals the US has aren't legitimate democracies anyway and Europeans already see this as a complete shitshow. Optics are out the window.
 
Well and then the coroners report and the actual bodycam footage that had been hidden from the public came out and you realized that what happened there in no way resembled the narativ ethat the media are as always trying to spin. And the Right walked away in disgust once again.
Nah, the rift happened way before those. It was literally the next morning. Actually less than 24 hours of agreement.
 
He should know what morons many of his supporters are by now and that they'd take that as saying your votes would be stolen by reptilian aliens if you voted that way so you might as well not bother. He literally said they were so stupid he could just murder someone on Fifth Avenue and it wouldn't matter to his cultists. Don't tell me there aren't boomers who just didn't vote because Trump convinced them their votes wouldn't be counted by mail and for whatever reason they couldn't get to the polls on Tuesday.
I don't think he was implying his voters were so stupid he could do that, considering he said at at a campaign rally. The point of that comment is he's so fucking badass that he could kill someone publicly and still be president because no one would swap sides over that.
Retarded thing to say? Probably. True? Probably.

I didn't say his tweets/remarks didn't get people not to vote, I said I don't think it impacted the election at all.
 
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