Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

[Psychic Espeon]

In response to your point about pollsters, yes its probable that they're gonna fuck up polling even worse. There's a lot problems with polling that even some of the pollsters admit, such as the inability to actually poll white working-class voters that are not college-educated. In addition, they cannot poll voters that have registered to vote this election (and I have a feeling that a lot of them are gonna be voting for Trump). Their distribution is horrible and significantly undercounts/misses rural areas (which are gonna break heavily for Trump, and will be the areas with the highest turnout this election). And they are weighing the polls based off of 2012 and 2008 turnout, not 2016 turnout. 90% of the black voting population will NOT turn out for Biden as they did for Obama.

They also base the polls off of thinking that there will be a high youth voter turnout too, and that's not actually showing up in the early vote nor will they show up for election day. The Wu Flu actually fucked that up, because Democrats cannot host events on college campuses urging these students to vote, and a lot of these students probably aren't even in the county right now to be able to vote.

It's just funny how actual early vote demographics are showing that the polls are dead wrong. The electorate so far seems to be more male, more white-working class and more predisposed to the Republican Party. A lot of those conservative low propensity voters that haven't voted for the past several elections or so are actually turning up in full force to vote for Trump and straight Republican Party ticket.

That's not even accounting for the Democrats that will be crossing to vote for Trump too. There will be a significant Democrat crossover vote for Trump and the Republican Party.

And as for your second point, there have been several polls that show Trump is trusted more on the economy than Biden. In addition, the economy is already recovering for the past few months and counting. The Wu Flu is not gonna be the millstone on Trump, but rather on Biden.

The pollsters haven't learned a damn thing and it looks like 2020 will humiliate them even further, if not send them further into irrelevancy.

Also, the fact that a Gallup poll released recently showing that 56% of Americans say that they're better off than they were four years ago shows that Trump will win big. In that same poll taken in 1984, 44% said they were better off than they were four years ago and that was the year Reagan and the Republicans won in a massive landslide.

When you take a step back and look at the big picture, none of these translate to a Biden victory. It translates to a Trump victory.

If 2020 turns out to be another Trump Victory, it might as well be the death of polling.
Because nobody will take it seriously anymore, no matter whose side you might be on.

 

[Atatata]

Why isn't Kanye on the poll? His inaugration rap will be straight fire.

 

[CeleryBread]

I'm not an American. But I watch and comment on your politics for two reasons.
1) What happens in D.C spreads across the globe. We're your allies, have been since WW2. We've followed America into Korea and 'Nam and the Middle East. Where you go next we'll end up following as well.
2) Our politics are boring as fuck. Every one of our leaders are boring non-entities. I could name two dozen major political figures in the US because love them or loathe them they're actual people and not empty fucking suits, full of corruption, spite and insanity.

Now let the drunk shitposting roofucker on his rare day off tell you why I think every Australian, no, why every citizen of a non Chinese country on the South China Sea, should be praying for a Trump win.

The signs have been pointing towards serious conflict in my region for years now (aggressive territory disputes, manmade islands etc) and this year it's gone from 'yeah might happen' to 'yeah it's going to happen'. Down here we've dumped massive amounts of cash into our military, secured our fuel supplies and started purging Chinese spies from our country despite the obviously compromised facets of our economic and political circles decrying these actions and saying that we are too weak to fight China and should just roll over because of 'trade'.
These are not the actions of a country expecting peace.

And when the firestorm erupts down here I'd rather have the man thats been decrying China since 2016 in the White House over fucking Biden who was part of an administration that showed their belly to the CCP. This scandal with Hunter and the trail of connections that have started linking old Joe to the Commies are even more worrisome and just confirm suspicions I've had since 2008. Suspicions I've had of numerous western politicians, not just American.

They're all the pockets of the CCP. Just like too many of our leaders are.

I couldnt tell you where I read it because it was years ago. But I remember thinktanks in the US saying that the years of US dominance were over and that it would be best if America just sit back and quietly die while China takes over. It could have been dems. It could have been neocons. I dont know. But Trump has proven himself to be neither over the past four years with his blatant de-escalation of Middle East wars, and thats enough for me to love the man.

But if Trump is so anti-war why would he go to war with China?
Because China is going to force the issue. They've gone off the rails this year. They've pissed off India. They've made claims on one of Russia's most important ports. They've got half the world lobbying to crucify them over the wuflu. They've had serious flooding and food troubles, and they've got growing dissent in the party ranks as shown by the ongoing Hunter saga. They have to move soon or they won't be able to move at all.

War's coming kids, and it ain't going to be a civil one.

I wonder if a war with China is what might help bridge together the extreme political divide in the US.

 

[Klaptrap]

I have this bad feeling that Biden will win, but I would put money on a Trump victory just from enthusiasm on the ground. Quite frankly I don't know what to think.

 

[Spoonge]

Not only that but the Hong Kong protests as well.

Them forcing Hong Kong was in hindsight a serious sign that not everything was well in Xi's kingdom.
Trump cuddling up with Taiwan is also big. (What a surprise that Hong Kong, Taiwan and Chinese pro democracy figures are all backing Trump as well)
Will we see a counter-invasion by the Republic of China? In this timeline anything can fucking happen.

 

[Creep3r]

The Joestar Biden memes are pretty great, not gonna lie. As a Trumpfag, I approve.

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He's not even a real JoJo.

This is a real JoJo.

 

[Bongocat]

While I want trump to win, I think that's very very unlikely. The current narrative going around on the right is that people are redpilled by the riots and are just "lying" to pollsters to make it look like Biden has the edge. This hypothesis has two major problems for me:

1) It assumes normies even know about how bad or stretched out the riots have been. Believe me, they don't. The news simply no longer talks about it. The business owners boarding up do, but that's because they have a reason to. Normies hardly pay attention to anything unless it has literally reached their front lawn.

2) I am very, very skeptical that most people getting these calls are making a conscious effort to "mislead" pollsters. If they're really as mad as we think about the riots, they're probably just going to say "Trump" out of spite. It's possible that they're not answering at all because they're scared, but I have not had anybody relay that feeling to me.

 

[All Cops Are Based]

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Of course with the beer slam. It's like an alarm goes off in her brain alerting her that she hasn't done any unlikeable passive-aggressive rich person shit in the last 30 seconds

 

[Ahriman]

Ok so next tuesday is the big night. If drumpf gets reelected, we're talking about biblical levels of salt, that will make 2016 look like child's play.

How are we preparing for that? I am preparing my salt harvesting equipment.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

No, no it fucking didn't, America's entire pop culture in the '20s was mobsters, moonshine and rum running.

that was a small section of inner cities during a period where half the population was rural. Bootleggers didn't go to the prosperous town of Peepeepoopoo Ohio, they went to Chicago, little Italy, New York and Philadelphia where the poor lived

 

[Psychic Espeon]

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I have this bad feeling that Biden will win, but I would put money on a Trump victory just from enthusiasm on the ground. Quite frankly I don't know what to think.

From my perspective so far, Biden supporters have been less confident and not as arrogant as the Hillary supporters were in 2016.
Cautious Optimism will make the pain for either side less painful.

 

[Superman93's Bitch]

gun control works like all other things; you ban it and it goes away. If we didn't ban people from owning artillery pieces there would be a lot of people who own artillery. Imagine actually thinking banning something doesn't work when for hundreds of years of recorded history bans have gone through and succeeded on a massive scale. Britain banned the slave trade in 1809 and the slave trade ended

how's that war on drugs goin, big guy? prohibition, what a success story.

 

[Anchors-Away]

Hope Trump wins. If he doesn't, I wish my American friends and kiwi's the best until the next election

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Antifa is planning to start shit near polling locations.

 

[Psychic Espeon]

Hope Trump wins. If he doesn't, I wish my American friends and kiwi's the best until the next election

If Biden wins, don't expect too much out of him if his Democratic allies only win the House. But if they were to win the Senate though, we could see some of Trump's policies undone.

 

[Colloid]

2) I am very, very skeptical that most people getting these calls are making a conscious effort to "mislead" pollsters. If they're really as mad as we think about the riots, they're probably just going to say "Trump" out of spite. It's possible that they're not answering at all because they're scared, but I have not had anybody relay that feeling to me.

I can tell you anecdotally that I've personally blocked about 20+ numbers in the past few weeks from MoveOn and other polling companies that very blatantly encouraged me to report that I voted Biden. I don't know if this is because I'm still registered Democrat (since I planned to vote Obama when I first registered and never bothered to change it), or because I live in a rather moderate county, but all the same I've been ignoring them and my ballot was all red, regardless. Something tells me that's the prevailing sentiment among most working Americans since we've all got more important shit to focus on these days what with the economy and such.

 

[Superman93's Bitch]

1) It assumes normies even know about how bad or stretched out the riots have been. Believe me, they don't. The news simply no longer talks about it. The business owners boarding up do, but that's because they have a reason to. Normies hardly pay attention to anything unless it has literally reached their front lawn.

remember that normies do this thing where they talk to each other tho.

 

[Sm0kINHaZefEEliNBlaZEd]

I can tell you anecdotally that I've personally blocked about 20+ numbers in the past few weeks from MoveOn and other polling companies that very blatantly encouraged me to report that I voted Biden. I don't know if this is because I'm still registered Democrat (since I planned to vote Obama when I first registered and never bothered to change it), or because I live in a rather moderate county, but all the same I've been ignoring them and my ballot was all red, regardless. Something tells me that's the prevailing sentiment among most working Americans since we've all got more important shit to focus on these days what with the economy and such.

I can't tell you how many of those texts I've gotten recently. If that's how they get their polling numbers then maybe I shouldn't feel so blackpilled.

 

[Bongocat]

I can tell you anecdotally that I've personally blocked about 20+ numbers in the past few weeks from MoveOn and other polling companies that very blatantly encouraged me to report that I voted Biden. I don't know if this is because I'm still registered Democrat (since I planned to vote Obama when I first registered and never bothered to change it), or because I live in a rather moderate county, but all the same I've been ignoring them and my ballot was all red, regardless. Something tells me that's the prevailing sentiment among most working Americans since we've all got more important shit to focus on these days what with the economy and such.

Yeah I've blocked something like 40+ myself. It's been insane. No doubt most people are ignoring them, but the question is if there's a significant statistical split of republicans ignoring them while democrats don't.

 

[Captain Manning]

And as for your second point, there have been several polls that show Trump is trusted more on the economy than Biden. In addition, the economy is already recovering for the past few months and counting. The Wu Flu is not gonna be the millstone on Trump, but rather on Biden.

You're basically saying the pollsters shouldn't be trusted on predicting the election, and then turning around and saying they should be when they ask a question about which candidate is more trusted on economic matters.

Let me tell you an old fart story:

Once upon a time there was a President who led a very successful military campaign in the Middle East, and enjoyed sky high approval numbers and global admiration because of that.

Then the economy went to shit, and he was soon replaced by a womanizing saxophone player from Arkansas.

Am I wrong in my prediction? Sure, I could be. I'll happily deal with the boomer jokes if I am. I'm just saying "it's the economy stupid" has stuck in my head all these years.