Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Antifaggot telling other hardcore leftists to prepare for the coming shitstorm:
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Pretty sure that's the "official" account of one of the autonomous zones that popped up this summer during the riots.
 
The problem with polling has to do with response rate. Around the 2000 election, the response rate was around 50% of the randos they would call up. That's plummeted to far below a 10% response rate. They don't have a statistically significant random sample to be able to predict anything. So they create these garbage models, which don't reflect the reality of the voters. A lot of these garbage polls also canvas registered voters instead of likely voters, which tends to favor Democrats.

The other side of this is intentionally skewing the polls. People won't turn in to CNN or Fox or MSNBC if their candidate was predicted to lose in July. So they oversample the guy they want to win to create a rah rah attitude, and hopefully skew the vote. But because they don't really have that much power and want to retain some credibility, they narrow the polls as a election day comes. This increases viewers, as it suddenly become a tight race, and thus hopefully eyeballs and TV ratings. It also means if they call it wrong, they're only off a few percent, not off by 10 to 15%.

The polling out of Iowa today seems to project a comfortable Trump lead, which was tied only a few weeks ago. If that proves to be representative of the electorate as a whole, it does not bode well for Biden. His weak performance in the second debate and the subsequent Hunter gate were the two big death knells, assuming it was not just entirely garbage polling.

And all of the above also doesn't take into account the silent Trump voter. For every brave trucker waving a Trump flag off the bed of their truck, there may be many more who are silently filling in that circle for Trump come election day.
 
I personally don't understand the whole Trump argument of "if you vote Biden, you'll have more antifa riots".

Think about it, who's presidency are these riots currently happening under? Maybe, just maybe, the people doing the protests and riots are doing this because they don't like Trump, they don't like his approach towards police brutality and want him out because they think the other option, Biden will somehow hold cops accountable in the way they want them to be, which could prevent Floyd-like incidents that incite riots like these?

How does Trump getting reelected change the fact that people are going to riot? He's had since May to executive order all cops to beat protesters senseless, with a supreme court and senate majority support.
 
You're basically saying the pollsters shouldn't be trusted on predicting the election, and then turning around and saying they should be when they ask a question about which candidate is more trusted on economic matters.

Let me tell you an old fart story:

Once upon a time there was a President who led a very successful military campaign in the Middle East, and enjoyed sky high approval numbers and global admiration because of that.

Then the economy went to shit, and he was soon replaced by a womanizing saxophone player from Arkansas.

Am I wrong in my prediction? Sure, I could be. I'll happily deal with the boomer jokes if I am. I'm just saying "it's the economy stupid" has stuck in my head all these years.
I'd be surprised if Biden pulls it off.
 
that was a small section of inner cities during a period where half the population was rural. Bootleggers didn't go to the prosperous town of Peepeepoopoo Ohio, they went to Chicago, little Italy, New York and Philadelphia where the poor lived
Wrong, but you're still dodging around the point: these existed, and the government failed to stop them. Prohibition didn't work, because the government was unable to enforce it. You keep trying to play the economic circumstances card, but what I and the others here have been trying to tell you is that "why" doesn't matter: either the government has sufficient power and resources to enforce a ban, or it does not. Sometimes people generally go along with the ban, and thus it is easier to enforce, or sometimes its so widespread as to be utterly hopeless, but the single common thread is that law means nothing without the ability to enforce it.
 
As I'm sure some others have mentioned, I have been pretty astonished by how little political activity I've seen in my city. I have seen 3 Biden signs and 2 Trump signs in the past 6 months. Jesus christ.

Then again, I think you'd have to have a screw loose to be announcing your politics in public at this point.
 
I personally don't understand the whole Trump argument of "if you vote Biden, you'll have more antifa riots".

Think about it, who's presidency are these riots currently happening under? Maybe, just maybe, the people doing the protests and riots are doing this because they don't like Trump, they don't like his approach towards police brutality and want him out because they think the other option, Biden will somehow hold cops accountable in the way they want them to be, which could prevent Floyd-like incidents that incite riots like these?

How does Trump getting reelected change the fact that people are going to riot? He's had since May to executive order all cops to beat protesters senseless, with a supreme court and senate majority support.
It changes the fact that now he'll be able to give an executive order without fearing for his chances to get reelected. If he had done it in May, the media would have spun it as a horrible fascist act and half of America would have believed it. After the elections, though? There's no reason to hold back.

Biden likes the cops and will not abolish the police, don't delude yourself. Antifa will not be happy with this administration no matter who wins.
 
I personally don't understand the whole Trump argument of "if you vote Biden, you'll have more antifa riots".

Very simply, because Biden will not lift a finger to stop them and they'll just have free reign to do whatever they want. He'll send infinite money to burned down cities and they'll just get burned down again and again.

Antifa takes issue with western civilization as a whole and they want it destroyed. It's got nothing to do with who the president is.
 
Here's something to consider. -

America right now has 331 Million people. And out of those 331 million, 68 million Americans use Twitter in some shape or form. And as for Facebook, it's a little closer (around 240 million).

And since we see Left or Right echo-chambers all the time in YouTube comment sections or on Websites that tend to have a bias towards one side or the other, it's really difficult for any of us to determine who will really win any Election at all.
 
It's time for the boogaloo to commence bois. Grab your nuts and hold on to your butts. THE WILDEST RIDE OF OUR LIVES BEGINS TODAY
 
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