Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%

  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%

  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%
  • Total voters
    2,140
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Bloitzhole said:
Anyone got a decent, data driven scenario to show how trump wins this? A surprising number of people (to me) have voted Trump here, considering the question wasn't what they want, but rather what they expect will happen
You can easily access most predictions from most major polls there, as well as make your own, so I'd be interested (with no real horse in this race) in knowing how you guys are reckoning a trump win might happen - and the graphic interface makes it easy to illustrate via fx screenshot for others so I figured I'd leave it here.
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Look at the 2016 results and show which states Biden flips to win. Even if he flips Pennsylvania, he needs help elsewhere too. I don't see Biden flipping enough states to win. If Biden doesn't win Pennsylvania, there's almost no path to a Biden victory.
 
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Bloitzhole said:
Anyone got a decent, data driven scenario to show how trump wins this? A surprising number of people (to me) have voted Trump here, considering the question wasn't what they want, but rather what they expect will happen
You can easily access most predictions from most major polls there, as well as make your own, so I'd be interested (with no real horse in this race) in knowing how you guys are reckoning a trump win might happen - and the graphic interface makes it easy to illustrate via fx screenshot for others so I figured I'd leave it here.
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In some of the other election threads, I posted some tables and graphs of how well Trump did in the primaries over Biden. If the primaries decided the election, Trump would win by crossing the 270 mark and winning California.

Obama fucked with meritocracy by ordering all other candidates to drop out in order to fuck Bernie and help Biden. Biden before Obama meddled, was a pure shit candidate. Bootygig would have won given how Bernie was underperformimg from 2016. Barely winning Vermont was a giant red flag. Bernie was a caucus baby basically.

Biden is the candidate because of niggers in the south. Problem is that in the general, all those southern nigger infested states vote Republican. It's the Rust belt you have to pander to and Biden is shit like for example gun control. Sheboons heavily support gun control and yet in the general, the white working class are against gun control.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Weren't liberals known as the group being hip with technology and the internet. And conservatives were the ones stuck in their luddite ways.

Edit: I would also like to add that Obama's internet numbers dwarfed McCain and Romney. Its when Trump shows up in 2016, is when you see the Republicans start adapting to campaigning on the internet.
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These things move in cycles.

A few decades ago it was the Republicans moral gatekeeping because of muh boobs, muh blood, and muh violence.

Now the Democrats are moral gatekeeping because Movie X didn't have enough genderfluid transsexual fat people.

Stands to reason other things shift, as well.
 
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Aldeland said:
Have you seen the amount of stuff the US is sending to Taiwan/Taiwan is gearing up for? Shit is wild.
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There's a theory that if Trump loses, one of his outgoing acts of office will be to switch our recognition back from the PRC to the ROC. Or, in the (superior) alternative, the Taiwanese declare independence (essentially conceding the PRC gets to keep the mainland) and we recognize them.

I'd prefer the latter. In practical terms, there really are two chinas. This idea that they can both claim everything is unworkable. It's why we can't recognize Taiwan as a full legit nation-state. We're still treating it as a civil war in which the ROC is an illegitimate rebellion. Taiwan is gonna have to face reality on that front. If they want to keep the ROC name, ala ROK vs DPRK, fine. But they have to be separate.
 
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Captain Manning said:
There's a theory that if Trump loses, one of his outgoing acts of office will be to switch our recognition back from the PRC to the ROC. Or, in the (superior) alternative, the Taiwanese declare independence (essentially conceding the PRC gets to keep the mainland) and we recognize them.

I'd prefer the later. In practical terms, there really are two chinas. This idea that they can both claim everything is unworkable. It's why we can't recognize Taiwan as a full legit nation-state. We're still treating it as a civil war in which the ROC is an illegitimate rebellion. Taiwan is gonna have to face reality on that front. If they want to keep the ROC name, ala ROK vs DPRK, fine. But they have to be separate.
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The question regarding the ROC depend on who you talk to.
Taiwanese Nationalists (DPP) have stated that they no longer care about the Mainland and want to refer themselves as the "Republic of Taiwan".
Chinese Nationalists (KMT) living in Taiwan though on the other hand don't want to give up. (even though it is very likely that the CCP will keep its power in the Mainland)
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Weren't liberals known as the group being hip with technology and the internet. And conservatives were the ones stuck in their luddite ways.

Edit: I would also like to add that Obama's internet numbers dwarfed McCain and Romney. Its when Trump shows up in 2016, is when you see the Republicans start adapting to campaigning on the internet.
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I suspect that as millennials aged into the Democrat party apparatus they kicked out a bunch of the olds because they're convinced that they know everything they need to know about internet marketing and campaigning because they're on twitter a bunch. That means all of the Gen Xers and up who constructed the Obama campaign got iced out or they just decided to retire. A lot of this stuff was laid out in this mammoth essay from the New York Times regarding Ben Rhodes: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/...st-who-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html

The entire piece is about how retarded and dumb the White House Press Corp actually is and how they don't know anything about the world outside America's borders. This also applies to other areas of the Democrat campaign machine. Most likely what happened was that Obama didn't like having all those savvy people around him so he dumped them on the side of the road as soon as he could. Otherwise they might have been put to work against him or they might have realized what a shit president he was. Couldn't risk that.

The Democrat party we see today is the dregs and Obama wanted it that way because it made them easy to control. The smart ones were pushed out and the ones left over are either retarded or doddering old fools.
 
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Regardless of who wins or loses, the extent of violence and rioting will be largely predicated on the weather. Right now in Kenosha, for instance, it's just a hair over freezing. A handful of hardcore antifags might try and pull some shit under such conditions, but your average danger hair or ghetto darkie isn't going to back them up. And even though the weather all throughout the northeast is supposed to warm up by Tuesday, General Winter will be approaching. No one's going to fucking protest and riot in a Minneapolis December, and the boogaloo fags would have to be more than merely angry before they actually decided to march on Lansing under a foot of snow. Such was the wisdom of the founders, that they set elections in the season when people have to be not just angry, but desperate, to contest them with arms.
 
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Bloitzhole said:
Anyone got a decent, data driven scenario to show how trump wins this? A surprising number of people (to me) have voted Trump here, considering the question wasn't what they want, but rather what they expect will happen
You can easily access most predictions from most major polls there, as well as make your own, so I'd be interested (with no real horse in this race) in knowing how you guys are reckoning a trump win might happen - and the graphic interface makes it easy to illustrate via fx screenshot for others so I figured I'd leave it here.
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If Trump were to win again, he'll have to recreate his 2016 map. Simple as that.
 
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haurchefant said:
I suspect that as millennials aged into the Democrat party apparatus they kicked out a bunch of the olds because they're convinced that they know everything they need to know about internet marketing and campaigning because they're on twitter a bunch. That means all of the Gen Xers and up who constructed the Obama campaign got iced out or they just decided to retire. A lot of this stuff was laid out in this mammoth essay from the New York Times regarding Ben Rhodes: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/...st-who-became-obamas-foreign-policy-guru.html

The entire piece is about how retarded and dumb the White House Press Corp actually is and how they don't know anything about the world outside America's borders. This also applies to other areas of the Democrat campaign machine. Most likely what happened was that Obama didn't like having all those savvy people around him so he dumped them on the side of the road as soon as he could. Otherwise they might have been put to work against him or they might have realized what a shit president he was. Couldn't risk that.

The Democrat party we see today is the dregs and Obama wanted it that way because it made them easy to control. The smart ones were pushed out and the ones left over are either retarded or doddering old fools.
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It does helpfully answer why Obama lost overall 1400 seats to the GOP over his 2 terms. And explains how he got cucked by Putin as well as fucking over American allies and taking part in disasters like overthrowing Gaddafi.

On the election, I expect a Trump win in normal fashion. It guess we can call it Murphys Law or something but basically since this event has been super super uber hyped. I expect a lower overall turnout to 2016 as Republicans show up on November 3rd to give GEOTUS the win. The mail in ballot and early vote numbers for the democrats are absolutely disappointing for them.
 
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Someone Awful said:
This. Everything we have seen is pointing towards a Trump victory in the state. Miami-Dade County is looking to closing its Democratic lead by double digit and that's the third most reliable county in the state for Democratic vote. It's very hard to make up 100,000 lost votes elsewhere.
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The part of Florida I'm in, I would say most neighborhoods I've passed thru have mostly Trump signs and flags and around 5 Biden signs *total* (4 of which went up this weekend). There's been Trump cheer rallies on corners for weeks and I've only seen one Biden cheer group this weekend. The

Granted I can't talk for the rest of the state, but at least here - I'll be very surprised if the votes for Biden outweigh Trump.
 
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It doesn't matter who wins, there's only one President of my heart.
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