Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread

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Who wins on November 3rd? (Zeitgeist, not who you're voting for)

  • Expecting a Trump win.

    Votes: 978 45.7%
  • Expecting a Biden win.

    Votes: 277 12.9%
  • Expecting no clear winner on November 3rd.

    Votes: 885 41.4%

  • Total voters
    2,140
  • Poll closed .
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Scheme?
Haven't shifted or flip flopped at any point.
It's a simple process for him to follow.

Outstanding issues on Safe Habor Day (recount(s) ongoing and/or lawsuits) - proceed go to SCOTUS - SCOTUS kicks can to House - 14th of December arrives and Repub legislature states are emboldened to send 1 elector each and vote for Trump - 26 states Majority - Trump stays Pres 4 more years.
Which is why they seem to be openly harassing the legal teams in order to prevent that from happening. They desperately want to win by brute force and honestly the only thing stopping them now, aside from the government not entirely being a one-party system (even though both parties are beholden to the investors if you know what I mean), is Trump's refusal to just back down. It helps that the Reps are largely on his side.

I can only hope this old orange has twice the ego he lets on and keeps going until the bitter end. If he pulls a Bernie, which is unlikely but anything is possible, I can't imagine the fallout.

Edit: win or lose 230 seems to have its death knell rung by now, whether for vengeance against what big tech pulled this year or for vengeance against all the citizen journalists who helped amplify the message and expose the issue of fraud while MSM perpetually attempted to conceal it. Both Reps and Dems have their reasons. Let's hope it's hot air
 
Thought this was Q-tard nonsense when I first heard about it, but apparently Trump's lawyer has been tweeing about it



Earlier today Rep. Louie Gohmert told Chris Salcedo on Newsmax that people on the ground in Germany report that Scytl, which hosted elections data improperly through Spain, was raided by a large US ARMY force and their servers were seized in Frankfurt.

Tonight we heard more from our source on this raid in Germany.

From our source:
The US government, once they determined that this Dominion server was involved in switching votes, then the intelligence community began a search for the server and discovered that the server was in Germany. In order to get access to that server and have it available for use in a legal manner they had to have the State Department work in tandem with the Department of Justice. They had to request that the government of Germany cooperate in allowing this seizure of this server.
The appropriate documents required to affect that kind of seizure were put in place, signed off on, and it appears there was also US military support in this operation. The US military was not in the lead. But this helps explain why Esper was fired and Miller and Kash Patel were put in place — so that the military would not interfere with the operation in any way.
By getting ahold of the server they now are going to have the direct evidence of when they were instructed to stop counting. They will also discover who gave the direction to stop counting and who initiated the algorithm that started switching votes. The CIA was completely excluded from this operation.
Trump Attorney Lin Wood weighed in on this report today.
For sure there was fuckery with the count in swing states. Easiest way to do it would be to just program an algo to skim votes from Trump and give them to Biden.

If true then the low level fraud being committed by the sheboons and danger hairs in blue precincts are besides the point.

I'd normally judge this to be nonsense but it's 2020 so who knows.
 
Which is why they seem to be openly harassing the legal teams in order to prevent that from happening. They desperately want to win by brute force and honestly the only thing stopping them now, aside from the government not entirely being a one-party system (even though both parties are beholden to the investors if you know what I mean), is Trump's refusal to just back down. It helps that the Reps are largely on his side.

I can only hope this old orange has twice the ego he lets on and keeps going until the bitter end. If he pulls a Bernie, which is unlikely but anything is possible, I can't imagine the fallout.

Edit: win or lose 230 seems to have its death knell rung by now, whether for vengeance against what big tech pulled this year or for vengeance against all the citizen journalists who helped amplify the message and expose the issue of fraud while MSM perpetually attempted to conceal it. Both Reps and Dems have their reasons. Let's hope it's hot air

They can't harass Rudy, he went up against the mob with no fucks given.
The rest of the legal team should be young, single, and hungry lawyers.
File scads of cases, no worries about families or clients being doxed.

I imagine today's MAGA protests and events across the Country will be superb narcisstic supply for him.
 
>Demands evidence
>Ignores evidence
That seems to be their MO. There’s no point engaging, they’re either a parody account, stupid, or disingenuous
I don’t think “why didn’t Democrats forge down ticket votes” is a satisfying response to cheating allegations.
This is followed by 6 sentences explaining why I think so. They responsed by merely rephrasing “why didn’t Democrats forge down ticket votes”.
If they were rigging it, they would've also taken the Senate, too. Why wouldn't they?
 
They can't harass Rudy, he went up against the mob with no fucks given.
The rest of the legal team should be young, single, and hungry lawyers.
File scads of cases, no worries about families or clients being doxed.

I imagine today's MAGA protests and events across the Country will be superb narcisstic supply for him.
I keep hearing that Trump's only hope is the courts, which is nonsense. SCOTUS is not going to award him a re-count, let alone the election, unless there's a groundswell of normie public opinion demanding it. SCOTUS judges are as much politicians as legal jurors.

Trump needs a smoking gun, an irrefutable piece of evidence that will get the public on his side. It needs to be more than Dem election officials switching ballots or dead people voting, this is expected in American elections.

If he can prove one large scale instance of fraud he won't have to worry about the legal cases or re-counts, none of that will matter. Even better if he can link the Dems or Biden campaign to the fraud.

Trump has refrained from holding rallies or giving interviews, which is not like him AT ALL. If he had accepted defeat I'd expect him to be going all out to consolidate his base, if nothing else to protect his family from the expected investigations when he leaves office.

So who knows? Maybe he's already cut a deal and he'll play golf until Jan or maybe he's got something and he's just waiting for the right time to let it drop. It's either one or the other IMO. Carrying on refusing to accept the result with no hope of overturning is not a smart play, and Trump is a lot of things but dumb isn't one.
 
Thought this was Q-tard nonsense when I first heard about it, but apparently Trump's lawyer has been tweeing about it




For sure there was fuckery with the count in swing states. Easiest way to do it would be to just program an algo to skim votes from Trump and give them to Biden.

If true then the low level fraud being committed by the sheboons and danger hairs in blue precincts are besides the point.

I'd normally judge this to be nonsense but it's 2020 so who knows.

EDIT: I did missed a part in the source that says it was German Lead. Meaning it was the Germans doing seizing and that makes sense. I am not convinced it happened, but it is plausible. Leaving this op here for my eternal SHAME!.

What the fuck is this lying shit?

A large US force doing a raid in Germany?? Is there any evidence of this at all, because i don't see the German's allowing a military raid in Germany. Now if the German government was asked to size the servers and send them to the US with a few American observers. That i see happening, but this is some bullshit.

I have tried to find a German source on this and so far nothing. Also they would send in the GSG 9 for a seizure like this. OR basic cops.

Also if this was true then this is a huge scandal in German. Allowing foreign military to raid a private German company is some fucked op shit.
 
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What the fuck is this lying shit?

A large US force doing a raid in Germany?? Is there any evidence of this at all, because i don't see the German's allowing a military raid in Germany. Now if the German government was asked to size the servers and send them to the US with a few American observers. That i see happening, but this is some bullshit.

I have tried to find a German source on this and so far nothing. Also they would send in the GSG 9 for a seizure like this. OR basic cops.

Also if this was true then this is a huge scandal in German. Allowing foreign military to raid a private German company is some fucked op shit.
Well if you read the article what you're describing is exactly what they say happened.

That the State Dept contacted the German government, German police seized the server and the military were there to observe.

Not saying it's true however a GOP Congressman and Trump's lawyer have both commented on it, so it's not nothing.
 
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Thought this was Q-tard nonsense when I first heard about it, but apparently Trump's lawyer has been tweeing about it




For sure there was fuckery with the count in swing states. Easiest way to do it would be to just program an algo to skim votes from Trump and give them to Biden.

If true then the low level fraud being committed by the sheboons and danger hairs in blue precincts are besides the point.

I'd normally judge this to be nonsense but it's 2020 so who knows.
Gatewaypundit isn't a credible source. He makes shit up constantly. He's about as credible as AOC.

There is 0% chance the US Army conducted a raid on a Germany company. Aside from the fact that it would be a literal act of war, US Troops have no jurisdiction off-base in Germany. Whenever something like that is needed, German's do it and hand it over. There's processes and treaties to handle that kind of shit without, you know, starting a war.
 
Well if you read the article what you're describing is exactly what they say happened.

That the State Dept contacted the German government, German police seized the server and the military were there to observe.

Not saying it's true however a GOP Congressman and Trump's lawyer have both commented on it, so it's not nothing.

You are right. I berenstined my self.

I read the original title that was "US MILLITARY RAID AND SIZE SERVERS IN GERMANY", but i missed the line in the source that it was with a German lead, meaning that it is possible. Now i will wait until i see a statement from the German government as they would have one for local press around things like this. Should be out Monday at the latest.
 
He's had a couple minor wins, but not even anything regarding actual voter fraud, the case about having poll observers move closer, for example. Nothing that would even come close to changing anything, and if they've got more substantial evidence I don't know what they're waiting for. I think they're just dragging it on for as long as they can so they have more time to grift donations from his followers. I don't believe anyone but him actually believes this will change anything, and even him believing, I'm unsure of.

*his followers believe it, I just don't believe anyone in his campaign or administration believes it.

Yeah, my personal belief as well. Rich man drags poor suckers for an suckle or two before leaving. With the story that low donations go to the RNC as well, the party itself now has a vested interest in dragging it out.

Though, you'd imagine the whole having observers stand closer would have been a no brainer from the start.
 
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I keep hearing that Trump's only hope is the courts, which is nonsense. SCOTUS is not going to award him a re-count, let alone the election, unless there's a groundswell of normie public opinion demanding it. SCOTUS judges are as much politicians as legal jurors.

Trump needs a smoking gun, an irrefutable piece of evidence that will get the public on his side. It needs to be more than Dem election officials switching ballots or dead people voting, this is expected in American elections.

If he can prove one large scale instance of fraud he won't have to worry about the legal cases or re-counts, none of that will matter. Even better if he can link the Dems or Biden campaign to the fraud.

Trump has refrained from holding rallies or giving interviews, which is not like him AT ALL. If he had accepted defeat I'd expect him to be going all out to consolidate his base, if nothing else to protect his family from the expected investigations when he leaves office.

So who knows? Maybe he's already cut a deal and he'll play golf until Jan or maybe he's got something and he's just waiting for the right time to let it drop. It's either one or the other IMO. Carrying on refusing to accept the result with no hope of overturning is not a smart play, and Trump is a lot of things but dumb isn't one.
Trump is listening to his advisors from the Reps, likely the same people who stopped him from going full Guantanamo on the rioters when the Dems were all but taunting him to stop their useful chaotic idiots by force.
That or he's so concerned he's listening to his more reliable lawyers and doing his best not to stick his foot in his mouth until this is mostly settled so as to not ruin whatever he's got going for cases. The former bodes poorly but the latter shows good restraint. Remember, he was already mouthy in the beginning about how much he won by and that, to him, he's already won if not for the fraud, etc.

As for a smoking gun, that massive pile of Michigan papers from people swearing under oath to witnessing mass fraud is pretty great. Whether or not he's gonna tie that directly to Biden, let alone the DNC, really depends. Even with all they've done against him we should keep in mind Trump is still one of the elite, one of their kind in a broader sense, and I don't just mean he's wealthy. The guy's history is connected to Epstein types all around and the cannibals never cannibalize their own, at least not usually.
Then again, Reps also don't want to lose.

Also Trump's entire brand--his inheritence to his sons--would collapse if he just cut a deal. How would his international business opportunities look after having decided to play the perverbial bitch? It's not just ego, though that's a huge part of it. It's also the weight of his dollar that depends on his actions here. I guarantee he knows that.

It's why the groundswell of support from MAGA types and otherwise is so important, as is the perpetual autism from people like ITT who research, examine and collect constant streams of information to gather evidence (and for funposting). If not for the Internet's autists and if not for the constant outcry, if not for dozens of millions of people refusing to just roll over, this would already be over regardless of the Reps' or Trump's intentions.
 
Yeah, my personal belief as well. Rich man drags poor suckers for an suckle or two before leaving. With the story that low donations go to the RNC as well, the party itself now has a vested interest in dragging it out.
That already exists

Twice

tl;dr Supposedly 40% of all donations go to an RNC account up to a cap of 35,000 dollars and until that account's cap and Trump's PAC account cap is reached (which is 5,000 dollars) then the money goes to the legal fund directly.
 
That already exists

Twice

tl;dr Supposedly 40% of all donations go to an RNC account up to a cap of 35,000 dollars and until that account's cap and Trump's PAC account cap is reached (which is 5,000 dollars) then the money goes to the legal fund directly.

Wait, so the RNC account is capped to thirty five thousand, or that's the highest of the lows that'll be sent their way in the event of a 'low' donation? Thirty five, and five thousand seems like a really low cap, all things considering. Or, I could be reading these numbers wrong, never was good with them.
 
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if we’re going to assume any thread we have on somebody here is evidence of everybody that shares a trait with that individual behaving the same way, then the TES thread is proof that anybody that supports Trump should be institutionalized.

“Good gays admit they’re mentally ill and apologize for being sinful and express a desire to be cured of their illness” is something a pastor said to the church my family used to attend about 20 years ago, and I’ve considered anybody that tries to push the same logic on anything else a faggot. That pastor got caught molesting a little girl by the way.

''stop painting everyone who shares a trait with the same brush. oh and heres a personal story that justifies me painting everyone that shares a trait with the same brush.''

i almost thought you were smart.
 
Wait, so the RNC account is capped to thirty five thousand, or that's the highest of the lows that'll be sent their way in the event of a 'low' donation? Thirty five, and five thousand seems like a really low cap, all things considering. Or, I could be reading these numbers wrong, never was good with them.
Based on how it is explained it works like this.

So you'd need to send over 40k to be absolutely positive any of your money will go to the legal fund. 35k of that first 40k goes to the RNC, 5k goes to what might as well be a Donald Trump fund, and the rest should go to the legal fund for sure. This is for every single donation.

So if you wanted to support Trump's legal defense and you sent him 100 dollars, 40 of that goes to the RNC, 60 goes to a Trump account that may not go the legal fund at all because it is a PAC account. If the first article is true then a PAC account is so non-specific that it might as well just be you sending money to Donald Trump directly for him to wipe his ass with it if he feels like it. So I as far as I understand it, this whole thing is a scam if all you care about is the legal fund specifically and the RNC gets a notable amount of money.
 
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Based on how it is explained it works like this.

So you'd need to send over 40k to be absolutely positive any of your money will go to the legal fund. 35k of that first 40k goes to the RNC, 5k goes to what might as well be a Donald Trump fund, and the rest should go to the legal fund for sure. This is for every single donation.

So if you wanted to support Trump's legal defense and you sent him 100 dollars, 40 of that goes to the RNC, 60 goes to a Trump account that may not go the legal fund at all because it is a PAC account. If the first article is true then a PAC account is so non-specific that it might as well just be you sending money to Donald Trump directly for him to wipe his ass with it if he feels like it. So I as far as I understand it, this whole thing is a scam if all you care about is the legal fund specifically and the RNC gets a notable amount of money.

Ah, got'cha, cheers pal.
So aye, swindling McGee be Trumpy, if that's how it's going. Though, considering all the patreon clones and so forth, it's not like people are smart with where they throw their money, just hope many don't get suckered too badly by this.
 
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