It is fascinating to me that the subset of men most obsessed with putting things into small boxes documenting minute differences has allocated a maximum of two such boxes for 50% of the species: “women” and “my mom.”
Sorry for being behind. I love how quickly this thread moves and how many topics get discussed. Anyway, Freud was a stupid hack but imo the Madonna and whore dichotomy is pretty spot-on for incels/autists/most garden-variety misogynists, except the rise of terms like
mommy milkers does make one wonder just how separate those categories actually are for most of them now, or have ever been. Plus sexualizing breastfeeding, as was discussed a few pages back—so was it incest back when
they were children too? How many of them even know any details of how their parent(s) cared for them growing up, one wonders. Even not having kids myself, the reality of childcare is something that family and friends still talk about. It is really bizarre to me that so many internet moids think childcare is cheap—even if the only woman they know is their own mother, apparently the work done/money spent from her (and hopefully dad) to provide a dependent scrote with tendies and clean underwear is beyond their little walnut minds. If you don’t give a two shits about something sure it can be relatively inexpensive to keep it alive, but what about some quality of life?? Absolutely male.
Kind of another non sequitur but re: prevalence of rape and men’s attitudes toward their own crimes, I think it is The Body Keeps the Score that includes some description early on of the male author working with male veterans with PTSD. One of the things often reported in their nightmares and flashbacks was the distress over fact that they brutalized women in the villages they conquered (…and then came back home to their wives). If any of that remorse was sincere (I actually can believe some of it was), that is all the more evidence that males need to be sequestered for the greater good. If even seemingly “normal”, empathetic males, ones capable of remorse for their actions, could still so easily devolve into raping and pillaging, then the ones with no such reservations are absolutely not worth the effort of rehabilitation. In a just society, males would be made to fully reckon with their violence, and in particular the extent of their sexual violence. Neither women nor men can generally stomach just how prevalent sexual violence really is without it destroying some part of their soul. I don’t think my view of males would be so hopeless if even half of them had any self-control and tried to reign the chimps amongst them in. But they don’t, and they don’t.
The thing people who think the bear (and tbf I at least assumed a black

bear) is a stupid answer to the “night in the woods” question don’t get is proportionality, but I agree it’s an excellent point that women being “punished for picking wrong” is also such a predictable moid response. I
would pick man if it were a grizzly bear/most moms with cubs, as the chance of certain death skyrockets in that case, but most bears are far likelier to not give a shit about me versus a moid with no legal or social consequences to his actions.
I know and have known several perfectly lovely males. The thought doesn’t leave my head that maybe some of them are still deviants, because I would be naive to think otherwise. That gay several pages back that got arrested for wanting to
rape a newborn baby born via surrogate sounds like a regular pillar of the community with his outside interests, yeah yeah fag w/e, but point stands that you can never
really know.
Last thought for now, also saw a post a few pages ago about a fetish for Mooslims brutalizing Christian girls. If you ever take a field trip to the Chantal thread, she’s got a stinky leech Arab moid who is apparently into not only rape and shit and piss, but also religious rape/sexual blasphemy in particular. What a stellar example of humanity.