Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

So a scrote I had previously worked a lot with and even considered a friend (until tonight lol) decided he would spend the evening getting drunk in order to hook up with this trashy tatted-up single mom that's also on the project. Not my problem, not my buissness, except he drug me and our other coworker (also a stupid mod who got drunk) over to their house under the pretex of playing cards for a little while after dinner in his company car. 5 hours later and the other moid finally got the keys from him so we could leave. On yeah and we have to be up at 5 in the morning and do intense physical labor in very high heat and humidity, something I'm already struggling with because I'm 1) still acclimating and 2) am still sick. But hey, fuck going to bed at a reasonable time and not being hung over the next day, there was PUSSY to be had, so fuck everyone and everything else right?

This isn't even the first time something like this has happened, not with the same guys but with other scrotes. It's getting to the point where I expect it if there's a single guy on a project. Men will bang on and on about the garbage romantic choices women make, but they will do the dumbest, most destructive and assholey shit for the worst of women. It's amazing.
I mean that's pretty obnoxious, but why did you wait around instead of getting an Uber home? At some point you've gotta put your foot down
Transwomen lol. But among women who had to grow up female, no. It was worst in my mid to late twenties when I lived in NYC because I would use public transit and walk on the sidewalk, so there was more of an opportunity for random men to approach. What I was wearing was always irrelevant, I got catcalled while wearing sweats and scrubs all the time.

The most egregious example I remember happened on a Saturday morning in the subway; this gross Hispanic dude (he smelled like malt liquor) got onboard a mostly empty car and grabbed the bar so he could stand right in front of where I was sitting. There were plenty of open seats on the train, but this guy wanted to smash his groin against my knees and pretend it was the shaking of the subway car on the tracks. He looked ridiculous, undulating like a hooked fish trying to touch me with his body while I shrank back away as much as possible. Maybe I should've confronted him, but I had confronted other catcallers before and it just turned into a shouting match.

I got catcalled more often when I would try to run in my neighborhood for exercise, I guess because a woman running attracts more attention than one walking. I think the worst part is the weird jolt of someone you don't know shouting at you from their car/whispering in your ear/fucking touching you without warning while you're just trying to read a book or listen to music. It's like being doused in cold water without expecting it and you feel unsettled for a while afterwards.
Yeah when I was 18 or 19 or so, this fat old black guy asked if I "want to hang out with him" then proceeded to follow me home including two fucking transfers, he literally got on the same car both times. I was able to shake him by running to the next car on the same train (lol the doors shut in his face and everything, it was like a movie scene) but good lord that was terrifying. I'm also glad I don't have to take the A at 8 am any more because nothing beats starting your day having a dude's hand "accidentally" brush against your ass for several seconds on a sardine packed train car.
 
I mean that's pretty obnoxious, but why did you wait around instead of getting an Uber home? At some point you've gotta put your foot down
I did look (on lyft) but we're in the rural south so it would have taken an hour for someone to come out and cost a shitton and each time I've used it out here I've gotten a black guy driver and while I probably would have been fine I didn't want to take the chance, you know?
 
Maybe I've written 4 paragraphs accidentally revealing the fact that I've really just dated loser men who refuse to remember my birthday, but considering my own pops doesn't remember mine, I'm starting to notice a trend here, and I want to see if the ladies here can corroborate my experiences *sigh*
I'm sorry, but speaking as a lady/woman/girl, I have had the experience of being severely criticized (by a severely mentally ill person/addict) of not loving him because I kept forgetting his birthday. Now, I did care about him, but in retrospect perhaps my inability to get his birthday date straight should have been one (of many) signal(s) that our relationship should never have been. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't ever fuzzy about birthdays for anyone else I've ever cared about, but again, in retrospect, I think perhaps it did indicate something about my focus and attention --> rightness of the relationship.

Tl;dr: I'm not a man, but though my lapses on certain details didn't reflect my feelings toward them, I do wonder if those lapses indicated something about the wrongness of the connection. *I don't apply this to your dad; some people just fuck up that shit, and it may be about them as much as about you. But for your non-dads, I'd make some effort to put it into context, because it could mean something...or nothing.
 
Yeah when I was 18 or 19 or so, this fat old black guy asked if I "want to hang out with him" then proceeded to follow me home including two fucking transfers, he literally got on the same car both times. I was able to shake him by running to the next car on the same train (lol the doors shut in his face and everything, it was like a movie scene) but good lord that was terrifying. I'm also glad I don't have to take the A at 8 am any more because nothing beats starting your day having a dude's hand "accidentally" brush against your ass for several seconds on a sardine packed train car.

Good GOD this just brought on the mother of all flashbacks, especially the last part, though it's not a happening from public transport.

I was 18 and had been invited to a game night by a couple of friends from university. It started off with around 10-12 people, hosted at the house of this other student who was in his late 20's, if I recall correctly he was around 26-27. Something was off about him from the get go.

We all walked up the road to grab some snacks and energy drinks a few hours in because of course you'll get that shit if you're having a long vidya night. This dude talked the ENTIRE time about how his "bitch ex" had filed charges against him for rape, but he simultaneously:
  • Got away with it from a lack of evidence.
  • Never did it and she was just a cunt who hated him and wanted to ruin his life.
He would NOT leave me the fuck alone the entire night. I wasn't the only woman there but this disgusting waste of oxygen stayed near me like a leech and kept trying to talk. At around 3am the amount of people kinda thinned out as some went home to sleep. A few of us stayed, 4 men, one other woman and I who ended up sticking together as much as we could, turns out she knew him so I guess that's why he never tried anything with her. We ended up deciding to watch a few films in the living room, and I honestly cannot count the amount of times this guy tried to make a move. He wouldn't stop """accidentally""" trying to touch any part of my body he thought he could get away with. To this day I wish I had done something about it but I was a complete push over at that period in my life who didn't have the confidence to stand up for myself, tell him to fuck off and drown. Massive regrets there to be honest.

Her and I ended up legging it out the house at about 5am after he passed out, and we walked about 90 minutes across town because there was no public transport running that early. If she hadn't been there I really, really do not want to think about what could have happened.

Of course, people just sat around and shrugged it off because this sort of shit is just considered normal for women to have to deal with. YAY.
 
I'm also glad I don't have to take the A at 8 am any more because nothing beats starting your day having a dude's hand "accidentally" brush against your ass for several seconds on a sardine packed train car.
I’d once read about the Japanese rail commute system and how there are separate carriages which are exclusively for women and children. Talking to my boyfriend of the time the subject happened to come up, and he completely refused to believe that men in this time and place would grope and harass women on public transport, nor that it had probably happened to every woman he knew at some point. I still think it would be a good idea to have women-only carriages, at least during rush hour when the crowds are at their worst.

Of course the ideal solution would be to keep every man chemically castrated, so there isn’t a need for such measures in the first place. We could have a system where wives can apply for a permit to take him off the castration for one week per year if she wants to try for children, but on the condition that he be restricted to his home and restrained in such a place that he can’t pose a danger to women and children. Men caught in public without their chemical castration should naturally be given a physical castration, since they’ve proven themselves unable or unwilling to keep track of something so simple as taking their daily civilised behaviour pill.
 
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He started raping her when she was 2 and he was around 16, and continued for about 6 years.
He got 4 and a half years. He'll likely only do half that.

This baby was raped by a oversexed teenager, while he became a man, through the absolute, most important period of her brain development - from speech, to socialising, developing emotion, attachment to parents and caregivers, everything.
I hope she has the best of help.

The most important parts of her brain literally developed, architecturally, during a period of sexual abuse that we most likely don't even know the extent of, probably by her own family, a brother, I'd expect.

This man treated a toddler like a fleshlight.

BBC News - Man jailed for sexual abuse of girl from age of two in Aberdeenshire

Dean Burnett, 23, had earlier admitted sexually assaulting and raping the girl on various occasions between December 2016 and April last year.

Lady Haldane said Burnett, of Ellon, would have faced a seven-year jail term if not for his early guilty plea.

The judge also ordered that Burnett should be placed under supervision for a further three-year period.

The High Court in Edinburgh heard that his victim eventually revealed Burnett's conduct to adults.

Defence counsel David Moggach said Burnett led a "very isolated lifestyle".

He said that when Burnett accepted that he had abused the girl he went on to state that he was "truly sorry".

He was told he would be on the sex offenders register indefinitely.

"Hate? Hate! Let me tell you how I came to hate...
 
I never understood why men say the easy mode phrase. Women have to menstruate every month and be the one who gives birth.

Because women can easily have sex whenever we want and that's literally all men care about and what their entire life revolves around. Having easy access to sex = easy life. That's how they think.
You're halfway there. What men really mean with the whole easy mode thing is that attractive women with zero scrupules not only get easier access to sex, but they can also parlay their sexuality into making a profitable living, effectively skipping all the work your average person has to put in to survive. Ergo, "easy mode"

Honestly, i can see why some would think that way after you read those OnlyFans ad articles in their wage cage about how x girl makes double what you make in a year in one month because she makes random losers coom on the internet
 
He started raping her when she was 2 and he was around 16, and continued for about 6 years.
He got 4 and a half years. He'll likely only do half that.

This baby was raped by a oversexed teenager, while he became a man, through the absolute, most important period of her brain development - from speech, to socialising, developing emotion, attachment to parents and caregivers, everything.
I hope she has the best of help.

The most important parts of her brain literally developed, architecturally, during a period of sexual abuse that we most likely don't even know the extent of, probably by her own family, a brother, I'd expect.

This man treated a toddler like a fleshlight.

BBC News - Man jailed for sexual abuse of girl from age of two in Aberdeenshire

Dean Burnett, 23, had earlier admitted sexually assaulting and raping the girl on various occasions between December 2016 and April last year.

Lady Haldane said Burnett, of Ellon, would have faced a seven-year jail term if not for his early guilty plea.

The judge also ordered that Burnett should be placed under supervision for a further three-year period.

The High Court in Edinburgh heard that his victim eventually revealed Burnett's conduct to adults.

Defence counsel David Moggach said Burnett led a "very isolated lifestyle".

He said that when Burnett accepted that he had abused the girl he went on to state that he was "truly sorry".

He was told he would be on the sex offenders register indefinitely.
The fact that men aren't gathered in the streets to execute people like this tells you all you need to know about them. Weak, useless and pathetic. Just makes me laugh that there are so many Hollywood movies about men going to the end of the world to rescue their daughter or missing wife, it's pure fiction that men are these amazing protectors who want to shield women and children from harm.
 
Because women can easily have sex whenever we want and that's literally all men care about and what their entire life revolves around. Having easy access to sex = easy life. That's how they think.
A lot of men have the idea that women get it easier in the workplace (fast tracked for promotions, treated with kid gloves) and that courts take it easy on them. Like women have no consequences for their actions. I won't deny that a baseless claim of harassment can get a man fired, or that divorce often goes in the woman's favor. But for every woman who falsely reports a man for harassment or maliciously rakes her innocent husband over the coals in court, there are probably 10 or more women who are putting up with an abusive husband or male family member for the sake of family cohesion, being harassed in the workplace, or was otherwise abused/stalked/threatened. I also have not observed women being treated with preference in the workplace apart from the initial hiring process, and then it's more a matter of race than gender. The only benefit being a woman in the workplace has gotten me is that men are a little less likely to yell at me.

They'll point to OF thots as proof, like look how much money this woman makes selling her body and dignity. That's like pointing to a rapist as proof men can get all the pussy they want. Like wow, people with no scruples are more likely to get what they want, who would have thought.

Somewhat related, I was acquaintances with a girl in college who was pissed at some guy for trying something she didn't like during sex (don't remember what and he stopped when she told him to). She mentioned she was going to report him for rape, and I had a very firm talk with her. This is "policing your own," something men don't seem to be capable of doing.
 
You're halfway there. What men really mean with the whole easy mode thing is that attractive women with zero scrupules not only get easier access to sex, but they can also parlay their sexuality into making a profitable living, effectively skipping all the work your average person has to put in to survive. Ergo, "easy mode"

Honestly, i can see why some would think that way after you read those OnlyFans ad articles in their wage cage about how x girl makes double what you make in a year in one month because she makes random losers coom on the internet
The women who make a shit-ton of money on OnlyFans are only the top 1%. Most women selling their hole-pics on OF probably don't even make minimum wage. It's like saying men have it easier because they can become Fortnite Twitch streamers or professional LOL players. You still have to be lucky to actually earn money in that career and most people don't.
 
The women who make a shit-ton of money on OnlyFans are only the top 1%. Most women selling their hole-pics on OF probably don't even make minimum wage. It's like saying men have it easier because they can become Fortnite Twitch streamers or professional LOL players. You still have to be lucky to actually earn money in that career and most people don't.
I agree, when people use the easy mode stuff they usually paint it with a very broad brush. Point remains the same, though. From a male perspective, fucking or sexing your way to the top is "easy mode" because sex and money, dude!

Dont believe in it myself, but i can understand why some would
 
I hate the men that keep stealing our URLs and trying to take us offline.

To name some:
  • Matthew Prince, CEO of CloudFlare
  • Mike Leber, CEO of Hurricane Electric
  • Bob Ferguson, WA state attorney general
  • Martin Mallow, CEO of Key-Systems
 
I still don't get the Moids Men's Rights Movement. Men's Rights to what?
It's actually really simple what us "men" want. Firstly, we want to not have to go through the sheer horror of having to simply put the toilet lid down. Like, having to actually reach out! Oh, and we want the right to pee all over the bathroom floor. Our most important brain likes to move!

There's also the right to not have to wash up after ourselves Like, it's very hard to clean up and wash plates. A washing machine is far too complicated for us! The right to be smelly and not have to change our bedsheets is also a very important one. Don't even get me started on cleaning the litter tray!

So basically the right to be a slob.
 
divorce often goes in the woman's favor
Can we kill the myth that women just kill it in divorce? I know you said "often," but men all over this site (and the internet in general) keep asserting this lie that women clean up in divorce, and I hate to see anyone, especially women, accepting it as true or anything close. It isn't.

One study (britbong):

"The general belief that men get fleeced by their divorces while women get richer and live off the proceeds has long been due for exposure as a pernicious myth," said Ruth Smallacombe, a family consultant at Flip. "In reality, women often suffer economic hardship when they divorce. In addition, the resentment caused by unfair financial settlements has many knock-on effects, damaging ongoing relationships with former spouses and a woman's ability to move on with her life."
Jenkins's research found that the incomes of "separating husbands" rise "immediately and continuously" in the years following a marital split. "The differences between the sexes are stark," he said. "But this is not so much a gender thing as a parent thing. The key differences are not between men and women, but between fathers and mothers."
He found that, when a man leaves a childless marriage, his income immediately rises by 25%. Women, however, suffer a sharp fall in income. Their financial position rarely reaches pre-split levels.
Jenkins combined data from 14 different British Household Panel Surveys over 1991 to 2004 with the findings from five European surveys. Recalculating the results using the formula by which the government measures poverty, he established new per capita incomes. Jenkins found that the positive effect on men's finances is so significant that divorce can even lift them out of poverty, while women are far more likely to be plunged into destitution. Separated women have a poverty rate of 27% - almost three times that of their former husbands.
Maintenance paid by former partners also has little impact, said Jenkins, as just 31% of separated mothers receive payment from the father of their children.

"There are only two factors that have an impact on women's financial position, post relationship breakdown," said Jenkins. "The percentage change in income is less if they have worked beforehand and continue working afterwards. The impact is also reduced if they start working after the relationship breakdown. There is also a potential positive impact if she remarries," he added, "although the impact is a small one."

Another (US):
In divorces after 50, women's standard of living declines on average 45%, whereas men's declines 21%.


And (more from the guy in the first one)

Women who worked before, during, or after their marriages see a 20 percent decline in income when their marriages end, according to Stephen Jenkins, a professor at the London School of Economics. His research found that men, meanwhile, tend to see their incomes rise more than 30 percent post-divorce. Meanwhile, the poverty rate for separated women is 27 percent, nearly triple the figure for separated men,” writes Darlena Cunha for The Atlanticin April 2016.

And of course women are more likely to be lower earners, take time off in marriage to raise children (thus losing work competitiveness) and see their careers capped (in and after marriage) for similar reasons. More in the article:

And:
(this one seems an outlier, tbh, but including for range):

A typical woman suffers a 73% drop in her standard of living post-divorce. However, her ex-husband enjoys an on-average 42% improved standard of living, according to Lenore Weitzman, a George Mason University sociology and law professor.

One more, a multi-nation review comparing women after childless divorces vs with children:

There is mixed evidence as to whether the effects of divorce on household income and the risk of poverty are short-lived or persistent. Findings suggest that the answer to this question depends on national context (e.g., Andreß et al. 2006; Leopold 2018). For example, de Vaus and colleagues (2017) demonstrate using CNEF data that divorce had substantial and negative effects on women’s household income in the short term. In the medium term, there was no evidence of recovery in the US and South Korea, whereas women recovered very quickly in Switzerland. Using Danish register data, Hussain and Kangas (2005) showed that women’s household incomes initially decreased by over 50 percent, but subsequently recovered between 8.5-13.5 percent per year up to eight years following divorce. Leopold’s (2018) analyses using the German Socio- Economic Panel indicated persistent impact on both women’s household incomes and poverty risk.
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In the year of divorce, the incomes of both women with and without children in the household dropped by roughly 60 percent.
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The short-term change in household income following divorce is similar for childless women and mothers with one and two children (see panel A of Figure 3). For these women, household incomes initially dropped by roughly 60 percent. However, the household incomes of women with three or more children decreased by approximately 70 percent. This translated into a sharp increase in the difference in the economic wellbeing of mothers with three or more children and childless women (see panel B of Figure 3). While the household incomes of women with many children were circa 30 percent lower than the household incomes of childless women one year prior to divorce, that differences increased by to 50 percent in the year of divorce. However, while childless women’s incomes stay stagnant in the years following divorce, women with three or more children do recuperate to a small degree from approximately 70 percent to 65 percent relative to one year prior to divorce. Women with one or two children also recuperate to a small degree.

The numbers vary widely in the various studies done, likely due to methodology or time period reviewed, but the bottom line is that women are, as a group, significantly worse off than men after a divorce.

And the jackpot alimony? In my state it's rare to be more than a year or two -and that is definitely the trend* - as an indicative example, Florida just eliminated
permanent alimony, partially eliminated and capped duration alimony, and capped rehabilitative alimony - just two months ago.
* 25% of divorces in the 1960s included alimony; it is down to 10% now.

And btw, even for child support calculations, if you don't have a job, the earnings from one will be imputed to you, based on education, work history, etc.

Meanwhile, further countering the kept wife who rakes in undeserved riches in a divorce narrative, here's who's earning and working for the household:
Women's financial (earned) and contributions to a marital household continue to grow, while still doing more of the physical and caregiving work:
Among married couples in the United States, women’s financial contributions have grown steadily over the last half century. While men remain the main breadwinner in a majority of opposite-sex marriages, the share of women who earn as much as or significantly more than their husband has roughly tripled over the past 50 years.

In 29% of marriages today, both spouses earn about the same amount of money. Just over half (55%) of marriages today have a husband who is the primary or sole breadwinner and 16% have a breadwinner wife.

Even as financial contributions have become more equal in marriages, the way couples divide their time between paid work and home life remains unbalanced. Women pick up a heavier load when it comes to household chores and caregiving responsibilities, while men spend more time on work and leisure.

This is true in egalitarian marriages – where both spouses earn roughly the same amount of money – and in marriages where the wife is the primary earner. The only marriage type where husbands devote more time to caregiving than their wives is one in which the wife is the sole breadwinner. In those marriages, wives and husbands spend roughly the same amount of time per week on household chores.

Man as sole breadwinner is down to 23%. And in fact, the highest income households are where the women is the primary (not sole) earner (though it's pretty close to the figures for egalitarian and man as primary):
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But money isn't everything; surely men contribute equally at home?

In egalitarian and breadwinner wife marriages, husbands spend considerably more time on leisure activities than wives. Husbands in egalitarian marriages spend about 3.5 hours more per week on leisure activities than wives do. Wives in these marriages spend roughly 2 hours more per week on caregiving than husbands do and about 2.5 hours more on housework. In marriages where wives are the primary earners, husbands’ leisure time increases significantly (compared with egalitarian marriages), while the time they spend on caregiving and housework stays about the same.
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Even where the woman is the primary earner, she still does more caregiving and housework than her husband, AND more paid work.
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When a man is the sole or primary earner, women do have more time spent on keire than otherwise, but significantly less than a non-working man dies in the reverse situation. And men don't balance out the housework and caregiving as women do when women are the sole or ordinary earner:

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All of the above from https://www.pewresearch.org/social-...iages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/
 
You're halfway there. What men really mean with the whole easy mode thing is that attractive women with zero scrupules not only get easier access to sex, but they can also parlay their sexuality into making a profitable living, effectively skipping all the work your average person has to put in to survive. Ergo, "easy mode"
Markiplier's OF was so popular when he debuted it fucking broke the website. There are plenty of guys that make a living off their looks pandering to straight women, but it requires not being fucking fat, putting effort into their looks and style, and skill with people and marketing. But not being a obese slob is unimaginable work for most guys so they make up some nonsense about how easy women have it when those women also have to put a ton of time and effort into achieving that type of life.
 
It's actually really simple what us "men" want. Firstly, we want to not have to go through the sheer horror of having to simply put the toilet lid down. Like, having to actually reach out! Oh, and we want the right to pee all over the bathroom floor. Our most important brain likes to move!

There's also the right to not have to wash up after ourselves Like, it's very hard to clean up and wash plates. A washing machine is far too complicated for us! The right to be smelly and not have to change our bedsheets is also a very important one. Don't even get me started on cleaning the litter tray!

So basically the right to be a slob.


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Markiplier's OF was so popular when he debuted it fucking broke the website. There are plenty of guys that make a living off their looks pandering to straight women, but it requires not being fucking fat, putting effort into their looks and style, and skill with people and marketing. But not being a obese slob is unimaginable work for most guys so they make up some nonsense about how easy women have it when those women also have to put a ton of time and effort into achieving that type of life.
Not disagreeing at all, but i gotta say Markiplier raked it in on OF cause he was already e-famous beforehand, cause lookswise the dude is a complete butterface lol

Anyways back on topic, something i gotta say without any hint of irony, is that people campaigning for women on the internet/ online gaming do have a point. I say ironically because i used to believe it was bs. Dont dwell a lot on other sites than the farms, but its gross to see how women get treated if they have their photos as pfps on social media sites.

Tend to listen to spanish music on youtube, seen a lot of comments here and there where some chick asks a question and then you see a reply chain of 37 coomers going "Hey whats ur insta" "hello girl show bobs" and all that stuff.

Listen, i'm a man. I'm not a feminist, nor an ally or whatever, probably never will be, but seriously, why are guys like this? Why do you believe anyone likes to get hounded like this? Why the hell do you convince yourselves that "they want the attention/they'd like it if i was actually attractive!"

Its just so fucking gross, dudes cant see a fucking bare ankle nowadays without letting everyone know that yes, they indeed want to masturbate to it
 
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCGBFuHC06o)
>1930s
>Sally Horner is 11 years old, gets tricked into getting kidnapped by Man
>Man's name is Frank La Salle, a serial child molester that got let out of jail for said crimes several fucking times (justice system was solely run by men btw)
>Is constantly raped and transported around the country by Salle for 21 fucking months being forced by Salle to larp as his daughter
>Sally confessed a few times during abduction period to classmates only to be scolded for being a slut by said classmates
>Woman neighbor finally chimes in and saves Sally, Sally is reunited with family again, Salle is arrested indefinitely (about fucking time, but only after extensive media coverage LMAO)
>Media run solely by 40s moids portrayed 11-12 year old Sally as a slut in the news and that her kidnapping was somehow her fault, and even her own fucking mom agreed
>Sally got bullied relentlessly because of media coverage until her death in only her late teens because she got in a fatal car accident with a boy she liked
>Vladimir Nobakov writes Lolita in 1950s inspired by Sally Horner's abduction, purposed as a shock piece and a warning to make sure adolescents are safe
>Media sensationalizes the book and makes multiple movie adaptations, capturing the hearts of both degenerate pedo moids and pickme e-thots over decades
>Book overall did the opposite effect and somehow the term and idea of a 'nymphet' literally meaning "sexually precocious girl barely in her teens" or "a sexually attractive child """""""young woman"""""""" is now just fine amongst society
 
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