DMZ ♀ Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[I'm a Silly]

Embroidery

[psst -- don't tell the boys we have secret girl/Lidl Drip scout badges]

 

[Fareal]

@I'm a Silly I've never seen anything I loved more on this site. Those are perfect. Merch when

 

[LimeRikki]

Third one down is my favorite, but I like all of them

 

[I'm a Silly]

@I'm a Silly I've never seen anything I loved more on this site. Those are perfect. Merch when

I owe it all to bing/copilot, which is really great at this -- I got a little addicted -- if it helps/anyone thinks Null, &c. would want them, I can supply the core art w/o the badge background.

 

[Farmer Jon]

To them a single father is brave and noble, while a single mother is a washed up public cum receptacle.

Years of gooning to porn makes you see single mothers and have flashbacks to beating your meat to "hot stepmom gets railed by neighbor"

 

[Android raptor]

Years of gooning to porn makes you see single mothers and have flashbacks to beating your meat to "hot stepmom gets railed by neighbor"

I think some of them also were raised by single moms and want to blame all their issues on it to avoid taking any responsibility for being a terrible person.

I say this as someone whose primary abuser used being a single mom as a sob story to get away with shit.

 

[Farmer Jon]

I owe it all to bing/copilot, which is really great at this -- I got a little addicted -- if it helps/anyone thinks Null, &c. would want them, I can supply the core art w/o the badge background.

I could probably make some embroidery designs and so would many others who frequent the DMZ. To me, most of these look cute but don't have much meaning/semblance to the DMZ asides from women and kiwis.

Edit: seemed a bit insulting reading over it, but I really like the concept, just wish there was something that could make you look at it and think of the DMZ first and foremost.

 

[Android raptor]

For patches to sell I think it would be best to get an actual artist to do designs instead of AI. AI is ok for a mock-up/proof of concept.

 

[Farmer Jon]

For patches to sell I think it would be best to get an actual artist to do designs instead of AI. AI is ok for a mock-up/proof of concept.

Yeah, buying patches with AI art on it feels the same as buying something on Temu. It feels cheap, unfinished, and plastic. Kiwi culture has been built by artists, whether it be making remakes of the sonichu comics or the artwork that is proudly displayed on this website. To use AI just feels so... Meh. Harry Gold has a great video on the pros on cons of AI as a genuine creative tool. His point is that AI just makes the same slop all the time and really only does best of you want high quality mockups of something.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Attention, and lack thereof, is a powerful drug that can get under the skin of a moid in a way that little else can.

It's easily in the top 20 on the list of moid traits that they project onto us.

 

[Fareal]

It's easily in the top 20 on the list of moid traits that they project onto us.

Quick quiz question! Identify the gender of the person who wrote lyrics to the following songs:

- The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get
- Every Breath You Take
- Creep
- Don't You Want Me
- Run For Your Life
- It's No Good
- I Will Possess Your Heart

how dare foids ignore usssssss

 

[Generic Name #37]

On the single parenting topic. I would say that it is obvious that having an involved mother and father is ideal, but also it is obvious that a single involved mother is better than an involved mother and an abusive father and no worse than a single involved mother and an uninvolved father. In regards to single fathers, there’s not enough out there for me to make a judgment. I would assume that they are more likely to be uninvolved but in the case of an involved father and an abusive/uninvolved mother (not making a statement of how prevalent that situation is, just stating a reasoning based on a single hypothetical case) the above statements about single mothers would similarly apply.

On the topic of surrogacy I think that surrogacy (especially commercial surrogacy) is an abhorrent practice that should not disallowed with few if any exceptions. (e.g a woman voluntarily carrying her own sister’s child or something) I think most development in fertility technology along the lines of attempting to eliminate the need for pregnancy (e.g. artificial wombs, surrogacy) are alarmingly unethical and shouldn’t be pursued. The same goes for research into things like same-sex or troon pregnancy.

On a semi related note: is it just me (moid that I am) or do any of you feel uncomfortable with the idea of sperm donation? I am more than well aware that using a sperm bank is not morally comparable to surrogacy, but I feel a similar –albeit far less intense– discomfort regarding it.

P.S. I don’t know whether I should keep posting here. Although I appreciate looking at this thread to broaden my perspectives, and I enjoy participating in the discussion here. And I agree with the premise of the thread that men (or at the absolute least a lot of the behaviors that many men engage in) are worthy of scorn, and I have striven to be civil and not shit up this thread. I also see why some of you might be of the opinion that this thread should be very strictly Women-Only, rather than just being Woman-Centered. I feel conflicted about posting here, and would like to know your opinions on whether or not I should continue posting in this thread.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

On a semi related note: is it just me (moid that I am) or do any of you feel uncomfortable with the idea of sperm donation? I am more than well aware that using a sperm bank is not morally comparable to surrogacy, but I feel a similar –albeit far less intense– discomfort regarding it.

Yes, I don't believe children should (intentionally) be brought into world without their bio mother and father raising them. Likewise there's a lot of children born from sperm/egg donation who feel a loss from never having know their biological parent and believe these technologies should be banned (see: donor conceived movement).

Yes, sometimes children are forced to be adopted by parents due to parents dying or drug addiction etc & there are horrible parents who should never be allowed around their kids, but those are separate issues. Unpopular opinion but there you go.

 

[Generic Name #37]

Yes, I don't believe children should (intentionally) be brought into world without their bio mother and father raising them. Likewise there's a lot of children born from sperm/egg donation who feel a loss from never having know their biological parent and believe these technologies should be banned (see: donor conceived movement).

Yes, sometimes children are forced to be adopted by parents due to parents dying or drug addiction etc & there are horrible parents who should never be allowed around their kids, but those are separate issues. Unpopular opinion but there you go.

Yeah, I see where you are coming from with your opinion, and I agree. I remember reading about donor conceived people and how they often feel a loss (often of meaning to their lives, and/or connection to the family that raised them I would presume) before but I couldn’t remember it until you mentioned it. I would think that a concise way to phrase your (& my) opinion is that having children is not a right, nobody is owed a child just because they want to have one. I think that the closest thing that could be claimed as a right is that the government shouldn’t be allowed to prevent people who otherwise would be able to from having children, or to put it more succinctly, to sterilize people, but that doesn’t mean that they must allow practices like gamete donation or surrogacy.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

On a semi related note: is it just me (moid that I am) or do any of you feel uncomfortable with the idea of sperm donation? I am more than well aware that using a sperm bank is not morally comparable to surrogacy, but I feel a similar –albeit far less intense– discomfort regarding it.

There are practical issues like failure to screen out donors with physical or mental health problems and those fucking weirdos who will try to use sperm donation to father dozens of children. There's also the fact that some aspects of personality are influenced by genetics so you never really know what you're getting even if the clinic did its due diligence.

Most of the issue is what's already been mentioned though, the children end up feeling rootless. Tribalism hasn't disappeared in the modern world, and knowing where you come from and where you belong is such a basic need for psychological well being that most people don't even realise is there because they've never experienced that void. People who were adopted will spend years or decades trying to track down their families of origin to answer those questions.

I think a lot of people who pursue things like surrogacy and sperm donation are so wrapped up in wanting a child that they never consider how the methods they're choosing will shape the child.

 

[Generic Anime Girl]

Another fun fact: abusive men forcing their wives to do surrogacy for the money is apparently common among military spouses.

it's fucking over

[psst -- don't tell the boys we have secret girl/Lidl Drip scout badges]

these are excellently made. this may be my autism speaking but can you make a TERF Force 141 badge pls? I want something more militaristic lol

 

[DEAD BIRD]

it's fucking over


these are excellently made. this may be my autism speaking but can you make a TERF Force 141 badge pls? I want something more militaristic lol
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"Terf 141" is by far the funniest fucking thing I have ever heard come from a COD faggot since like, 2009.

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[psst -- don't tell the boys we have secret girl/Lidl Drip scout badges]

These are hilarious, love them.

 

[I'm a Silly]

it's fucking over


these are excellently made. this may be my autism speaking but can you make a TERF Force 141 badge pls? I want something more militaristic lol
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it's fun to play with, so i included the last 4 to show what bing does with the general idea; there is a LOT on the cutting room floor, like bing weirdly not choosing to spell it TURF until i got specific about the imagery, even though i used the prime image as a reference throughout, and one of the many skull based outputs was continuously trying to insert the words "ethnically ambiguous" and some form of either "male" or "female" despite the prompt being explicit that only "terf force 141" be used -- AI likes to go rogue

 

[Fareal]

I especially like the TERF FORCE badge that shows the obviously-male skull with its heavy forehead bossing

YWNBAW

 

[Damn It Moon Moon]

Every man who makes daddy issues jokes about "slutty" mentally ill women now has to be asked about his relationship with his mother; either helicopter coddled or "neglected" (asked to do the dishes and allowed to rot, goon, and play Hearts of Iron 4 for 2,300 hours), no in between.