Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Spaghetti Haruspex]

Which is especially retarded seeing as the first 3 witnesses to Christ's resurrection were all women. Although I suppose historical and theological reality doesn't matter to men who want to use religion as a tool to abuse women and girls.

I'm really sorry you went through that, I hope you've experienced some healing and consolation now.

Thanks, still learning every day. The worst thing about it was thinking it would be over once I left the cult, only to find out the world outside really isn't all that different after all and no less poisoned by scrotes.

 

[Spaghetti Haruspex]

Friendly reminder that the scrote being ridiculed and mocked recently is probably furiously jerking his tiny dick to the first female attention or acknowledgement he's received from someone other than what was required by his mother.

 

[Android raptor]

Just curious, does anyone here have direct experience or know someone who has been affected by patriarchal cults masquerading as the one true religion? I was 3rd generation and really never had a chance. This shit permeated my entire family and every facet of my existence.

Obviously this isn't a support thread, but I know my own experiences offer a fuckton of anecdotes and reasons to hate men.

Spoiler: Fun examples!

My own father unironically began "joking" that I was an "old maid" because I was 14 and unmarried, even though I had zero agency to choose a partner for marriage without his blessing and was a child.

My father used to show pictures of me to old men who he felt would increase his standing in the cult were they to choose me for marriage like some sort of medieval feudal lord looking to bargain his daughter for land or something. He kept doing this even after I ran away from home at 17, before excommunicating me both from the cult and my own family for failure to comply.

This particular organization was naturally rife with child abuse, and the abuse was protected/encouraged by such insane practices as always reporting alleged abuse to a council of men within the "church" before going to the police, and requiring any instance of abuse to be witnessed by a minimum of two adults (preferably men) to be a valid complaint that could then be brought to law enforcement. This practice was extended to instances of DV, too.. As a woman you could show up with a black eye and missing teeth courtesy of your husband, and if two men didn't see and verify the occurence before a council of other men, it didn't happen.

Yep, I live in the Bible belt so sadly I know lots of people who grew up in cults like that

 

[grenouille crétine]

I don’t have anything especially helpful to add for @Spaghetti Haruspex, but thank you for sharing your experiences here. It is disappointing and horrifying to realize the outside world isn’t any better or safer. I hope you are mostly learning nice things about it all now.

I didn’t grow up in a “cult” cult per se, but Christianity was still harmful. I think it is beyond absurd to conceive of a creator deity as male (if not female, even sexless or hermaphroditic makes more sense) and that most popular religions are simply post hoc justifications for misogyny. You can’t truly divorce the idea that a male entity created the universe from the idea that males thus are the natural rulers of the world, imo. The more I learn about Islam, Buddhism etc the more I believe men are simply incapable of enlightenment and spirituality on any significant level and that religious misogyny is their copium for knowing they are incapable of creating life.

 

[Spaghetti Haruspex]

I just really want people to know that this shit is still prolific even in the good ol' US of A, and you should be both aware and fucking outraged.

The consequences are lifelong, span generations, and it's all perpetrated by men and the women they brainwash.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

Just curious, does anyone here have direct experience or know someone who has been affected by patriarchal cults masquerading as the one true religion? I was 3rd generation and really never had a chance. This shit permeated my entire family and every facet of my existence.

Obviously this isn't a support thread, but I know my own experiences offer a fuckton of anecdotes and reasons to hate men.

Spoiler: Fun examples!

My own father unironically began "joking" that I was an "old maid" because I was 14 and unmarried, even though I had zero agency to choose a partner for marriage without his blessing and was a child.

My father used to show pictures of me to old men who he felt would increase his standing in the cult were they to choose me for marriage like some sort of medieval feudal lord looking to bargain his daughter for land or something. He kept doing this even after I ran away from home at 17, before excommunicating me both from the cult and my own family for failure to comply.

This particular organization was naturally rife with child abuse, and the abuse was protected/encouraged by such insane practices as always reporting alleged abuse to a council of men within the "church" before going to the police, and requiring any instance of abuse to be witnessed by a minimum of two adults (preferably men) to be a valid complaint that could then be brought to law enforcement. This practice was extended to instances of DV, too.. As a woman you could show up with a black eye and missing teeth courtesy of your husband, and if two men didn't see and verify the occurence before a council of other men, it didn't happen.

I didn't but I have a friend who did. There was a lot of csa where she was and she struggles with survivor's guilt because her mother (who is still in and she maintains extremely limited contact with) was close to the main guy and so she didn't get targeted. I don't think it's possible to get out of that kind of environment without some level of trauma.

I did grow up around Catholicism and can relate to what others are saying ... I was crushed the day that I learned convents have a priest who's basically the final word on all decisions and they have to do all his domestic work etc so that they can't actually break away from the system. I really recommend the book Fields of Blood by Karen Armstrong which looks at the afterlife texts of the main 5 religions to show how they justify the existence of a (male) ruling class in the material world, by reflecting it in heaven as the natural order of things. It's a great book.

 

[CryptidRetard]

There could be stiggers here. I hate stiggers

 

[Inside your walls]

 

[Spaghetti Haruspex]

I think a point that rarely gets touched on about these kinds of experiences is how difficult it is to talk about.

I personally hate talking about it because it's SHITTY and SAD. (Even embarassing to admit you or your family were dumb enough to get taken in by the shit) Who the fuck wants to hear about it? I pretended it never happened for years. It also makes me feel as if I'm generally unelatable to the mainstream populace, so I just run around pretending I'm suffering zero adverse affects, and just stumble headlong into realizations that I'm acting out old programming and actively fucking up my life intermittently. Shit is INSIDIOUS. Let's not forget that in cases like mine, you don't even get a family to support you through the healing process. You are on your own. Trial and error, hope it doesn't kill or break you.

Most therapists have no clue what to really do with you, you need an expensive one that specializes in cult mind control or religious abuse. They're expensive, and only available to people who have their shit together and have shit like good health insurance. (Probably not you.)

 

[Android raptor]

I think a point that rarely gets touched on about these kinds of experiences is how difficult it is to talk about.

I personally hate talking about it because it's SHITTY and SAD. (Even embarassing to admit you or your family were dumb enough to get taken in by the shit) Who the fuck wants to hear about it? I pretended it never happened for years. It also makes me feel as if I'm generally unelatable to the mainstream populace, so I just run around pretending I'm suffering zero adverse affects, and just stumble headlong into realizations that I'm acting out old programming and actively fucking up my life intermittently. Shit is INSIDIOUS. Let's not forget that in cases like mine, you don't even get a family to support you through the healing process. You are on your own. Trial and error, hope it doesn't kill or break you.

Most therapists have no clue what to really do with you, you need an expensive one that specializes in cult mind control or religious abuse. They're expensive, and only available to people who have their shit together and have shit like good health insurance. (Probably not you.)

Plus if you bring it up around tradmoids, they'll have a hissy fit and deny that shit happens.

Posting articles about religious pedos getting busted in the Autism Thunderdome always produces fun replies.

 

[Spaghetti Haruspex]

On a slightly more heartwarming (?) note, as a preteen and teen I somehow stumbled upon the musical artist Otep, and listened to her in secret at the risk of literal beatings or home imprisonment were I found out.

Songs like "Menocide" and "Sacrilege" probably contributed to my resilience and general resolve to escape, lol.

 

[Plantation Barbie]

Why do moids think they have to insert themselves into fucking everything?

 

[GreenJacket]

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I just really want people to know that this shit is still prolific even in the good ol' US of A, and you should be both aware and fucking outraged.

The consequences are lifelong, span generations, and it's all perpetrated by men and the women they brainwash.

Were you some kind of mormon? im really sorry you had to go through that like its so shocking and ass backwards i dont even know what to say.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

On a slightly more heartwarming (?) note, as a preteen and teen I somehow stumbled upon the musical artist Otep, and listened to her in secret at the risk of literal beatings or home imprisonment were I found out.

Songs like "Menocide" and "Sacrilege" probably contributed to my resilience and general resolve to escape, lol.

I love having her as my friend but this was Taylor Swift for her and I wish it wasn't. I think I'm going to see her in the Swifties thread here some day.

 

[Spaghetti Haruspex]

Were you some kind of mormon? im really sorry you had to go through that like its so shocking and ass backwards i dont even know what to say.

Not a Mormon, but I did secretly have a Mormon friend in school. We did have a lot in common.

One time I snuck over to visit her house (in violation of rules at my home) and her mother said I could never come over again because I dressed immodestly. I was wearing a long sleeve shirt that had a zipper on the front that didn't even come to cleavage level, and was fully zipped at the time like a turtleneck. This really hurt my feelings at the time!

 

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Not a Mormon, but I did secretly have a Mormon friend in school. We did have a lot in common.

One time I snuck over to visit her house (in violation of rules at my home) and her mother said I could never come over again because I dressed immodestly. I was wearing a long sleeve shirt that had a zipper on the front that didn't even come to cleavage level, and was fully zipped at the time like a turtleneck. This really hurt my feelings at the time!

Thats crazy. Ive also heard stories from mormon missionary girls that scared me a bit. I spent my childhood on a Catholic nun school for girls for 14 years and i never had a dresscode THAT strict. they just forbid us to wear skirts longer than 4 fingers above the knee or cleavage of course.

 

[Spaghetti Haruspex]

Thats crazy. Ive also heard stories from mormon missionary girls that scared me a bit. I spent my childhood on a Catholic nun school for girls for 14 years and i never had a dresscode THAT strict. they just forbid us to wear skirts longer than 4 fingers above the knee or cleavage of course.

Golly, that sounds practically reasonable compared to what I came from.

Basically all the women regardless of age were expected to dress like grandmas. A lot of women sewed clothes for themselves and children because nothing on a retail level would be modest enough.

Obviously because anything else might seduce a man or some shit.

 

[Cringey Edgelord]

This particular organization was naturally rife with child abuse, and the abuse was protected/encouraged by such insane practices as always reporting alleged abuse to a council of men within the "church" before going to the police, and requiring any instance of abuse to be witnessed by a minimum of two adults (preferably men) to be a valid complaint that could then be brought to law enforcement. This practice was extended to instances of DV, too.. As a woman you could show up with a black eye and missing teeth courtesy of your husband, and if two men didn't see and verify the occurence before a council of other men, it didn't happen.

Many years ago I had a friend who had finally escaped the jw's after deciding she wasn't going to let her husband beat her to death. Of course this meant she was persona non grata as far as the church was concerned. Luckily, the ex was such a piece of shit that he didn't care about seeing their daughter anymore. But of course that couldn't be the end of it so his disgusting family decided they were going to use him as their gateway to tie my friend up in the courts over custody because they wanted her to be forced to let her child attend their church full of pedophiles and violent misogynists. She was dealing with all this while trying to work a job and attend nursing school as a single mom to make a better life for the two of them.

She won in the end but I'm still angry nearly 20 years later at what they put her through. Fuck those people and their entire revolting religion. I'm genuinely thrilled to hear another woman got out before it was too late

 

[Spaghetti Haruspex]

Many years ago I had a friend who had finally escaped the jw's after deciding she wasn't going to let her husband beat her to death. Of course this meant she was persona non grata as far as the church was concerned. Luckily, the ex was such a piece of shit that he didn't care about seeing their daughter anymore. But of course that couldn't be the end of it so his disgusting family decided they were going to use him as their gateway to tie my friend up in the courts over custody because they wanted her to be forced to let her child attend their church full of pedophiles and violent misogynists. She was dealing with all this while trying to work a job and attend nursing school as a single mom to make a better life for the two of them.

She won in the end but I'm still angry nearly 20 years later at what they put her through. Fuck those people and their entire revolting religion. I'm genuinely thrilled to hear another woman got out before it was too late

It can not be understated how absolutely vile that religion is. That they're allowed to operate out in the open in nearly every city in the US is testament to the fact men are evil and interested only in staying that way.

I bet most of you don't even notice, but you probably drive by a fucking "Kingdom Hall" every day, or certainly have at least a few times.

Just take a moment to think about what goes on in there and the homes of the people that attend them next time you see one.