Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[LimeRikki]

Needed to rant about dumb stinky scrotes being defacto emotional retards but it got rambly lol.

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I'm starting to think that a lot of men lack the ability to recognize their own emotions as they're experiencing them or upon reflection.

Particularly if those emotions are negative or conflict with what they see as manly. A man who gets angry all the time will never label himself as emotional but he is.

A man will mock a woman to the point of tears and then "not understand" that he's been mean, and claim that it's her problem for being the emotional one.

There's more than one reason for this, but I think one of them is that starting out very young aren't taught how to identify and recognize their own emotions or use emotional language when speaking about their feelings, at least not to the degree that women are.

Males who do use a lot of emotional language, like Troons, seem to be only capable of recognizing emotion and having it be valid within them as or people like them, but not others like real women. They use emotional language to dominate the conversation, guilt trip others, and manipulate, rather than express themselves.

...just needed to ramble/vent but I'm sleep deprived so its not flowing as I'd like.

Also happy belated mother's day for Kiwi ladies it applies to!

 

[Freya]

just talked to a co-worker of mine. Her mother got cancer. Her father divorced her. Meanwhile she moved back home from NYC to fucking Ohio to take care of her.

was just talking about this in here.

 

[Red flag]

just talked to a co-worker of mine. Her mother got cancer. Her father divorced her. Meanwhile she moved back home from NYC to take care of her.

was just talking about this in here.

I'd never speak to the dad ever again and make it explicitly clear to him why.

I hope your coworker and her mom will be able to celebrate getting rid of two cancers.

 

[Freya]

I'd never speak to the dad ever again and make it explicitly clear to him why.

I hope your coworker and her mom will be able to celebrate getting rid of two cancers.

I think she still talks to him. I mentioned the study where men are 6x more likely to leave but didnt feel like getting into her personal life or gender politics at work

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

@isalaide sorry for the second ping when THE THING happened, and when he decided to get you to marriage councilour ? and who picked the councilour?

 

[Lidl Drip]

Just a gay man who purchased his children from a surrogate tweeting this out on mother's day. Men can't take a single day off from hating women.


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[Freya]

Just a gay man who purchased his children from a surrogate tweeting this out on mother's day. Men can't take a single day off from hating women.

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fuck is up with the influx of gay jews on the right?

 

[Inside your walls]

I know the topic of how manchildren moids sneak off or hide hideous amounts of porn from their female partners was few pages ago, but something I really wanted to point out is this:

I noticed is how these types of men really like to go after regular women that have zero knowledge about how porn is damaging to be their wives/girlfriends. You'd think given how there are many libshit feminists who support the porn industry because they genuinely believe the "Porn and sex work is empowering and positive!" lie, they would go after them as their partners because most of libshit feminists have no problem when their boyfriends spend egregious amounts of money on OF thots and porn website subscriptions, but no they go after very clueless normie women. It's very insidious.

It feels like a left-leaning equivalent of how right-wing moids try to date more left-leaning/liberal women in order to mold them into their ideal "pick-me" girl despite them constantly shitting on these women and there being plethora of women that share the same political views as them.

Just a gay man who purchased his children from a surrogate tweeting this out on mother's day. Men can't take a single day off from hating women.

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The difference between a left leaning and a right leaning goid is that left-leaning ones groom
children on Discord, while the right-leaning ones groom children on Telegram.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

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For those who didn't also catch the retard fits some twitter men have been having about fit women doing fun cardio

God forbid women try to find fun and inventive ways to work out. It's common sense that if a workout is fun or interesting, you are more likely to do it. None of the women in the video are particularly overweight either so idk why the OP in the Xitter thread is getting angry about calorie counting or seeing results.

The best shape of my life was when I had an employer paying for a membership to a super ritzy gym with tons of cool classes. Every day of the week there was something interesting going on, so if the free-weight floor was crowded or I was feeling unmotivated, I had something new to try.

Some men I know are talking about the Lauren Southern thing again (seems like it ebbs and flows from conversation). They're really harping on her rumored affair with Destiny, and the rumored abortion she had after Destiny knocked her up. I understand the appeal of this hot goss. But the pure seethe over the possibility that Lauren cheated on her husband, the frothing rage about "this is why we don't want women in the movement" as if there aren't figures on the right wing doing similar or worse and at most getting some teasing. Take Nick Fuentes for example. Yes he gets made fun of. But this is someone that, we have known for years, allowed a pedophile into his movement and watches tranny porn/follows femboys on Xitter. Do you see RW men snarling, "He was never trad!" Do you see the RW calling his trad lipservice a LARP? No, they make fun of him for starting to gain weight/lose hair and how stagnant his movement has become. There is only one explanation for why one gets raked over the coals for "not being trad enough" and one does not.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

The definitions of the word argument include to explain your reasoning or quarrel. Calling me illiterate is ironic. I am very sorry you do not know the definition of the word argument and that this has caused you great distress. Edit: Will be clear, I was referring to ones reasoning when I used the word argument, not quarrel. Clarifying to accommodate your learning disability.

I am quite familiar with the nuances and multiple meanings of argument, argumentation, arguing, an argument, etc. Perhaps I confused you by using both senses, so my bad for assuming you had flexibility of mind. The starting point of your failure was mistaking a mere comment as "argument" at all (in any sense).

It was a jump because I am talking about how anal used to be seen as extreme and now is normalised, meaning it’s harder for women to reject it, and easier for men to ask for it. This has happened via porn

And yet you did not refer to it in your comment.

, anal was one example. The wider context of the discussion was porn, not the fact you personally enjoy getting fucked up the ass and prolapsing your colon.

What is wrong with you? I advocated nothing about sexual practices. I spoke only to a general notion that regardless of attempts to normalize this or that, it's important and good for women to keep their own boundaries; i.e., you don't have to accept normalization. Sorry if not signing on to what read as helplessness caused you to short-circuit. But don't put words or opinions in my mouth.

I am sorry I did not explain that properly the first time, and that the second time I explained you were too much of a dumbfuck to keep up with the discussion.

Would again just like to be clear in my sincere apology for offending you and your loose asshole. Won’t happen again. Sisterhood.

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Your assumptions are weird and wrong. But speaking of assholes, I'd say you are one, except what you really are is a sad example of tetchiness and inability to hear anything but you go, girl as a fight.

 

[Glossy Paper]

God forbid women try to find fun and inventive ways to work out.

But if women build muscles with high intensity crossfit bro stuff they get called roid addicts or "uwu muscle mommy step on me". Can't win. Moids will always find a way to belittle women.

 

[keke]

And yet you did not refer to it in your comment.

My comment was a reply to someone talking about porn lmao then you waded in and shared your wisdom without picking up on context clues or reading the initial comment.

 

[SpookyObserver]

You'd think given how there are many libshit feminists who support the porn industry because they genuinely believe the "Porn and sex work is empowering and positive!" lie

the couples that DO form on this are generally really disgusting, public, dysfunctional, and tiresome. I'd imagine men want the kick of finding one to corrupt. Overlap with their porn.

 

[isalaide]

She can't they have kids. But honestly its less bad than name-calling. If he feels marriage needs marriage counseling and he tries to bully her into giving him info on what happened and how she feels about it then it feels like he doesn't respect her enough and she doesn't feel safe enough to tell him .

Shit is fucked but not divorce level fucked . If she can manage to make him go see a therapist individually then better for her. Though if it's a man he might encourage him to get a divorce .

@isalaide are you in your 40s?

Edit. Nvm checked profile yep 40s

1)Did you get into menopause?

2) did a friend or aquantince that he talks with regularly has gotten a divorce in the past two years?

Spoiler: irrelevant and increasingly derailing thread, sorry

Yes, I am old. No I am absolutely nowhere near having the menopause. Yes, I've had the blood tests done. He has no friends outside work colleagues. No, he is not out looking for my replacement. I know where he is and where he goes well enough to be confident about that. No, he could not afford to divorce me even if he wanted to. There is absolutely no compelling reason for him to do that. We get on well and our home life is settled.

I do not want to upend my family life and walk out on my marriage. Yes, I am feeling pretty raw and vulnerable right now, but with time, that will heal. This unwise venture to counselling is absolutely not something I would ever think about walking out over.

If he suddenly pulled a "if you had told me Important Thing at some point, I would have divorced/not married you", I would be... well, fuck, I actually don't know how I would feel about that. It seems inconceivable. It would be completely at odds with what he's said and done since Familial Explosion.

He laid it on about the counselling when Familial Explosion happened because he felt I should have disclosed this to him at... well, fuck knows when. I agreed to go because I don't have the perspective yet to be able to say whether he's right and this is something I should have told him.

There is a very unhappy background that comes down to: a family member told him I had disclosed Important Thing some years ago as 'evidence' that I had suffered from psychosis in the past (I had not. This was demonstrably untrue). I had made no such disclosure (but this is how I knew that family member knew about Thing) and said truthfully that I had never said any such thing. He chose to believe family member and I felt enormously undermined by that. It was a rough time. We worked through it in time.

I was not ever going to speak to him about Important Thing after that.

But in the whole context, there is a strong argument that I should have done. We are in a difficult bind where he thinks I should have told him, and at the same time he is now living with the realisation that what family member said... actually happened. I am too close to the whole... explosion and fallout right now to be able to see clearly whether or not I am 'in the wrong' here. But I do feel a powerful guilt about that. And other things too.

I am still making sense of a lot of really difficult shit with my own therapist. She thinks in six to nine months, he should join me for a few sessions with her and we can work through the answer to "why I didn't tell him". But I am not ready to do that work yet. I am also not willing to do it with the marriage counselor because I just don't want to explain all this shit yet again to a stranger.

tl;dr: I am willing to do the work he wants to do. But I'm not ready to do it yet. And I don't want to do it with a marriage counselor. I need some time and to do some heavy work myself first.

I just need him to sort of... be there? Be supportive without pushing for a little while longer? I am just not ready to confront everything all at once and I guess I just need a bit of space and grace to get to a point where this is something we can do together. I do think he is owed an explanation. I don't want to be forced into exploring this before I'm ready and before I can do it... calmly? With perspective?

Sorry for the elliptical rambling. This is not all my story to tell. There are other people harmed in all of this mess. There are children - not mine - who have been very seriously harmed. I'm still making sense of how much responsibility I need to bear for that.

ANYWAY this is why you don't go to marriage counselling amirite

 

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[pursuitsnail]

tl;dr: I am willing to do the work he wants to do. But I'm not ready to do it yet. And I don't want to do it with a marriage counselor. I need some time and to do some heavy work myself first.

Maybe it's worth bringing up in counseling that combining the demand to pander to his fragile man-feels with treating you as an NPC because it's convenient for him is the behavior of the sort of retard that needs to spend a lot of time on his own figuring out how to extend theory of mind to his god damn fucking wife.

Can you trade in the shit stirring family member for a bear?

 

[Stan]

Just a gay man who purchased his children from a surrogate tweeting this out on mother's day. Men can't take a single day off from hating women.

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“Happy Mother’s Day, not even Hamas would rape you!!” How can these men even be for real? The ones here scare me because I know they are real; they have sleep wake cycles and discuss the relative merits of honor killing as if they dedicate some time to the ethical considerations of when they would be justified to murder their wives and daughters. This just seems like a character somebody puts on for le views and Xitter xearts.

 

[Kermit the Impaler]

tl;dr: I am willing to do the work he wants to do. But I'm not ready to do it yet. And I don't want to do it with a marriage counselor. I need some time and to do some heavy work myself first.

I just need him to sort of... be there? Be supportive without pushing for a little while longer? I am just not ready to confront everything all at once and I guess I just need a bit of space and grace to get to a point where this is something we can do together. I do think he is owed an explanation. I don't want to be forced into exploring this before I'm ready and before I can do it... calmly? With perspective?

There is this psychological concept called Ring Theory that says basically, that people in crisis, dealing with something traumatic or who are very stressed, shouldn't have to put up with other people's feelings about what they are going through, i.e. those surrounding a person in crisis [should] direct expressions of their own feelings of stress toward those less close to that person and direct only support toward those closer to the person.

You should bring up what you said above and this concept to your individual (and marital therapist if you keep going) and express that you need to handle this issue this way and your husband needs to find other people to support him until you are emotional ready to deal with his feelings. If they push back on this, they are trash, and you should break up with them. The therapists, I mean.

Each person in the diagram is advised to "comfort in, dump out". The person in the center of the circle of rings can talk about their stress ("dump") to anyone, but those in other rings can only dump to those in larger rings than their own. When talking to someone in a smaller ring than one's own, one can only offer support and comfort and cannot discuss one's own feelings about the situation, as discussing one's own difficult feelings only adds to the stress the person in the smaller ring is already experiencing and is therefore unhelpful.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I thought this was a parody account at first but I think it's just a black man advertising his passport bro podcast with these clickbait posts that apparently speak to a certain demographic of men.

 

[Freya]

i wanna live in a world where men are executed for not siring daughters.
"He only produces sons. something must be wrong with him. off with his head"