Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Inside your walls]

This might be a very unpopular opinion depending on how you see Twitter and people on it as a website but, while most of artists there tend to be major slacktivist drama cows supporting flavor of the month causes, something I noticed about this sphere and that rubs me in a really wrong way is that whenever a female artist makes a comic or art venting about their trauma or issues they face as a woman, she gets instantly shat on, meme'd on and made fun of by people (usually moids). They make fun of the woman's trauma, call it trauma dumping and instantly downplay by saying she's making it up or exaggerating her experiences for clout because "You can't trust anything on the Internet!!1".

But when a moid makes a comic about his trauma dumping whether it's about >le male loneliness or him struggling with or overcoming his porn addiction, suddenly it's off limits. Suddenly all of us have to clap for the male artist because he dug himself out of the shithole that he probably purposefully got himself in. We have to celebrate and coddle this artist for finally figuring out that maybe watching anal abuse gangbang videos everyday isn't good for their brain and completely distorts their relationships with women, we have celebrate a man doing something that's a bare minimum requirement for men to be considered "decent" because the bar for them is that low. If you make fun of this moid's struggles, you will instantly get the same people that made fun of women's traumas will do a complete 180, tell you're heartless person and this is why men aren't able to talk about their trauma/experiences because they have high chances of encountering somebody like you that will shit on them.

When the case isn't that, but people making fun of their precious coomer artists, they will instantly do fruity little self-victimizing about how straight men aren't allowed to be open about things they're into and are forbidden from expressing any attraction towards women, and how heterosexuality is le dead because they can't be shamelessly talk about how much something gives them a boner. Give me a break lol.

They refuse to empathize with women and their plight, but also think they are entitled to women's empathy towards their own issues,
then wonder why the gap between sexes is deeper than the Mariana Trench.

Obviously, there are cases where people exaggerate or lie about their specific experiences that they shouldn't be lying about, but
that doesn't mean that every case is going to be that.

which is why idc about fujos or this very silly DM shit, and think it’s funny when scrotes shit their pants over a small, terminally online sect of women being .2% as gross as they are as a public-facing collective. Oh no some greasy maladjusted womenchildren who pose no threat whatsoever to men even if they tried think highly stylized drawings of pointy-faced sparkly anime men getting buttblasted is hot, clearly this proves females en masse are just as degenerate as the sex who constantly “joke” online and IRL about putting their dicks into animals, stepsiblings, incapacitated girls/women, anything that vaguely resembles an orifice etc and have the crime rate to match. bffr. The former still owe it to themselves to be less disgusting, but it hurts literally no one but themselves and makes losers upset bc #muhhypocrisy (no u, lol) so carry on ig

This discourse has just reinforced my belief how a specific group of moids are obsessed with pushing this weird narrative of "WOMEN ARE BAD/DEGENERATE/DEVIANT AS MEN!" and will take anything, I mean literally anything because they are that desperate to one up women because they hate the fact that the world doesn't put up with them anymore and they can't get away with being deviant shit chimps like they were able to do it in the past.

Why do you think moids online are so insistent on pushing that one meme of allegedly lesbians being more abusive than men, when the actual statistics they misquote was about how much women in lesbian relationship face domestic violence at some point in their life, and most of that abuse happened in their prior heterosexual relationship before they either came out of the closet or whatever? Because they don't accept the fact 99% of the time they are shit stirrers.

I am not into fruity anime twinks getting the pipe. In fact, I find that whole sphere really weird. However we sure as hell aren't seeing young girls irl pressure their boyfriends to be into pegging or act weirdly submissive like we see men, especially young men pressure girls to have anal sex that can possibly harm them. We aren't seeing women trying to gaslight their boyfriends into thinking things like choking and slapping is something perfectly normal and healthy to do during sexual intercourse because they seen that in porn.

 

[Freya]

I wanna live in a world where women are gaslighting their boyfriends to let them hit them in the nuts

 

[isalaide]

I wanna live in a world where women are gaslighting their boyfriends to let them hit them in the nuts

I just don't fucking get why girls are going along with this.
I'm old, so internet porn was invented when I was young, but there were no smartphones. It was Y2K. Things were bad and weird and all magazines were filled with scantily clad minor female celebrities claiming to have no sexual limits. People who tell you everything was 'fine' before Tinder and OnlyFans are both wrong, and just too young to remember this shit.
Anyway, the magazines were pretty full of articles outright 'ironically' and 'laddishly' telling young moids how to coerce and trick their girlfriends into unwanted sex acts, of which anal, ideally against her will, remained the #1 proof of some... I don't even know what it was meant to prove. What it actually proved was that you were somewhere between a sexually coercive creep, an abusive fuckhead, and a straight up rapist.
The thing I would say was that since magazines were not an interactive echo chamber, there seemed to be more young men then who felt uneasy about this and expressed that unease. I recall my boyfriend (as he was then) being genuinely pretty freaked out by one of these articles, particularly a bit where it 'satirically' advised the reader to convince their girlfriend into agreeing to wrist restraints, and then simply "slipping it in the wrong hole while she can't fight back". (Again, people who seem to think the late Nineties were some haven of 'gender peace' just didn't fucking live through them.)
He said he did not understand why you would do this to someone as it was completely fucked up, which is self-evident. I suggested he try finding out, since I was certainly not going to have an explanation to give him.
Some time later, the topic appeared in yet another magazine, one of mine this time, telling girls that they should do this even if they didn't like the idea, as boyfriends were really into it. The idea that a boyfriend who really wanted to sodomise you against your will should be immediately binned off permanently was apparently not an option. (The moids wonder why many women prefer to be single.)
Boy then related his observations of 'lad banter' amongst people he hung out with. Apparently the 'demand for anal' was what the redpillers now call a shit test. (Literally.) It was to be used on a girlfriend or regular hookup if you had tired of her and wanted to dump her. If the girlfriend was considered 'normal', she would be disgusted, completely refuse, and then you would dump her and tell everyone she was frigid. (Some of you older kiwisisters know this exact tactic well, I am sure.)
If however she was 'desperate' or 'psycho', she would consent to this. As it was considered unspeakably degrading by the moid performing it, she would then be dumped for being a 'disgusting slag', all and sundry would be advised that 'she takes it up the arse', and the moid would gain some kind of moid point whilst the ex-girlfriend was now a public figure of ridicule.
I remain convinced to this day that the popularity of the act both in pornography and IRL hinges on the fact the moid performing it considers it unspeakably degrading, and the degradation of the women is what actually gets them off. I put this choking business in the same basket. They actually want to hurt and violate and degrade women, it is essential to their sexual release, and the moid class are no longer capable of conceptualising heterosexual sex as anything other than destructive, pain-ridden and frightening to the woman involved.

 

[Doctor Love]

I remain convinced to this day that the popularity of the act both in pornography and IRL hinges on the fact the moid performing it considers it unspeakably degrading

Yeah, they do. It's why, despite all attempts, the booty warrior stereotype remains fucking hilarious. Likewise with Purple Aki or any other large, black sodomite.

The idea of a man who thinks he is the toughest, roughest man there is and then ends up getting viciously piped by someone tougher, as "comeuppance", is cemented into culture.

 

[Stan]

Where's the mom bod appreciation?

It's called getting mad at women for being post-wall roasties I think. Something to do with the postpartum vagina being like a Slip-n-Slide. Nick Rekieta drunkenly whispering on locals how Kayla’s body was “destroyed”.

The closest you really get to mom bod appreciation is guys angry denying their MILF kink.

The musical Grease was pretty much based on that idea, where a greaser falls for a very preppy woman.

O I thought the message of Grease was "if your love interest doesn't like you, change yourself to be more like him." (I seem to remember the girl starts dressing like the guy greaser by the end?)

Is this unusual? I figured everyone was doing so because you can only behold so many retards per day?

I have a pretty limited trad-wrangling ability myself, if the tard isn't even funny he can go post in the Shadow Realm.

Does anyone else notice that moids grossly exaggerate how much people pay for child support? They'll always say shit like “women are getting $3000 in child support per week”, even though that's not how it works.

.... I'm having flashbacks the time my dad was bitching to my sister and I about having to pay mom $250 a month in child support, in 2005 dollars, and how he wasn't going to do it and risk getting arrested by the sheriff. I really hope Grandmother set him straight on that one cause afaik he did not get arrested.

I just like telling Omori boy to fuck off.

Bargain Bin Laden was a much cleverer name.

Apparently it’s quite common in France for a boy to turn 15 and his dad takes him to a brothel

Get em started on that French Disease early

 

[JambledUpWords]

I thought the message of Grease was "if your love interest doesn't like you, change yourself to be more like him." (I seem to remember the girl starts dressing like the guy greaser by the end?)

The beginning of the movie has Danny taking school more seriously, and doing extracurriculars like track and field, in order to appeal to Sandy. People always remember Sandy’s makeover that was meant to appeal to Danny, but a good portion of the beginning of the movie is Danny changing himself to impress Sandy.

 

[mold]

$200 a month in child support for one

try $35

 

[isalaide]

It's called getting mad at women for being post-wall roasties I think. Something to do with the postpartum vagina being like a Slip-n-Slide. Nick Rekieta drunkenly whispering on locals how Kayla’s body was “destroyed”.

The closest you really get to mom bod appreciation is guys angry denying their MILF kink.

Yeah, that always makes me laugh. You see those women with no make-up and their don't-give-a-fuck hoodie and their tribe of kids pouring out of the people carrier SUV? They didn't find them in the cabbage patch. "it must be like a wizard's sleeve" bro the pussy so good the poor guy cannot control himself even though the kids are sleeping three to a room.
My husband was planning to have one kid. Unfortunately for him, he did not relay this expectation to his dick and whoops we had to move house. Twice.
The maidenless have a lot of trouble understanding that married people are getting sex the same way they get Costco-sized pallets of bottled water. You just get through so much of it so quickly.

 

[Snack Cracker]

The beginning of the movie has Danny taking school more seriously, and doing extracurriculars like track and field, in order to appeal to Sandy. People always remember Sandy’s makeover that was meant to appeal to Danny, but a good portion of the beginning of the movie is Danny changing himself to impress Sandy.

You’re right about the plot, but ultimately Sandy’s change was a lasting result of the changes and growing she had done over the course of that school year.

Danny tried to change who he was for Sandy, he sucked at it, so he went back to being a T Bird proper and was that way after he took off the letterman sweater he was wearing in the last scene after seeing Sandy.

Love Grease passionately, also love both the Pink Ladies and the T Birds, but the roles of both groups are clearly different (which is to be expected considering the time period).

The T Birds get the cool cars and rebel without a cause attitudes, The Pink Ladies seem to mostly react to the T Birds, at the very least they need the guy’s cars.

Frenchie’s character struggle with beauty school was nice, Rizzo’s pregnancy scare less so for whatever reason.

Not going to TMI about weird gender shit, but while Grease is life, can see why someone mentally ill would want to poon out based on the same concepts kinda though.

The T Birds always seemed cooler and like they had more fun, not to discount the Pink Ladies.

 

[mold]

I hate how dismissive men are of women's intuition. Men are so quick to wave women off when they "get a feeling" about someone or something because it's "not logical," but this intuition is based on cues and signs your subconscious is picking up on.

Men who are serious about physical safety and selfdefense are never dismissive of women's intution. Gavin de Becker wrote a whole ass book about it, for example, and here's another, at six minutes in

much of what is wrong with american dudes is they never get in fights

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

There's a lot of pressure from those other dudes and a lot of praise for it - and if you respond appropriately, you get the reputation of being aggressive, or "Corbynite" or some shit. The ones who struggle try to live vicariously through others, and actively pressure their male friends who can pull to do it.

I'd imagine it's similar with women, but it's something which a lot of dudes take to a weird, personal level. If a woman flirts with you infront of them, they get all arsey about it and seem genuinely offended that you didn't "seize the opportunity"

That's only in highschool/ college when they have large friends group after that its because they don't want to bother and because they can't maintain relationship.

Went on a few dates with guys like that is obvious they don't want to invest themselves in a relationship because why buy the cow when you get the milk for free. Eventually becomes a lifestyle and they get kicked off the " carousel" and then they are ready to " settle". Sometimes they fuck off preemptively when they realize they can't go on forever but always end up cheating when opportunity presents itself or hit on friends wifes to prove they " still got it" . Reddit is filled to the brim with horror stories of women dumb enough to get themselves in LTR with these guys and never ends up good.

 

[Thé au lait]

She hasn't gotten proper therapy and support she needs to get better.
And her permaban won't do shit she will just latch to another place and repeat the cycle.

It's not a perma, just 1 week thankfully
Mental health resources are so insanely bad that I doubt she'll be able to find help even if she seeks it out, so I can't really blame her if she doesn't want to try

 

[Snack Cracker]

If husband ever dies, never remarrying and most likely never dating.
Have those invasive morbid thoughts so my mind has taken me there.

That’s lightning striking twice finding a quality loving and hardworking and amazing man, not open in the least trying to find someone else plus starting over.

Godspeed to straight women kiwis that are dealing with men now, that 4B movement in SK makes a lot of sense and I can’t blame them.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

It's not a perma, just 1 week thankfully
Mental health resources are so insanely bad that I doubt she'll be able to find help even if she seeks it out, so I can't really blame her if she doesn't want to try

Null said he had intervention from all mods and he will decide what to do with her. Considering all mods complained about her i am guessing permaban.

 

[Gaussiana]

They make fun of the woman's trauma, call it trauma dumping and instantly downplay by saying she's making it up or exaggerating her experiences for clout because "You can't trust anything on the Internet!!1".

Something so eye-rollingly funny about the "never speak about your feelings with women!!" discourse moids have going on is that they truly think that whenever a woman expresses emotions people just clap, tell you "so true queen", pat you on the back, and congratulate you for being so hecking strong, stunning and brave.
Which is obviously not fucking true, as at every turn there's people (usually scrotes but sometimes women too) that will be quick to minimize and belittle your feelings, using your vulnerability against you the first chance they get. Think about how normalized it is for men to tell women that they're overreacting about "small" things in a relationship and even physical pain or illness. Even if you're careful you can be vulnerable with the wrong person and end up hurt in some way.

Are women just swearing off relationships with other humans and advocating for bottling up feelings until you can't take it anymore? Well, no, not really, that would be extremely retarded and immature. Sure it can really fucking hurt when someone you trusted outright makes fun of your traumatic experience or brings it up during an argument but that's how relationships are sometimes. Yes, when you open up you expose yourself and take that risk because you believe it might be worth it. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. This is such a basic common sense concept that most girls learn or at least understand by age 15. Yet it has middle aged moids puzzled and going "Stacy was very mean that time I opened up to her and punched a wall. So was my bitch ex wife Becky. Mom told me I needed to get help for my anger problems. Women are so mean. Must not talk to women. Why am I so lonely?"

 

[Thé au lait]

Null said he had intervention from all mods and he will decide what to do with her. Considering all mods complained about her i am guessing permaban.

Ah fuck, which thread was this in? Seems like I missed a big development

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Ah fuck, which thread was this in? Seems like I missed a big development

bpgooner in mass debates just search for null putting on banlist

 

[Lady Bizness]

Disgusting Reminds me of this man I spent a weekend with who informed me his first sexual encounter was a prostitute his dad got for him because he hadn't gotten laid yet. Father/son relationships sure are something...

A dearly departed relative of mine had this experience with his grandfather taking him. Always had trouble forming lasting relationships with women which was too bad because he was a fun, likable person.
It's just such a bizarre practice, never mind all the ways it screws over one's perspective. Like, even the most awkward people figure out sex if they really want to have it. It's not something you need to pay an expert fucker for. Maybe read some books? I dunno, just a thought.
But we know what it's really about. It's about passing on the old time perspective that this is what women are for.

 

[Snack Cracker]

It's not a perma, just 1 week thankfully
Mental health resources are so insanely bad that I doubt she'll be able to find help even if she seeks it out, so I can't really blame her if she doesn't want to try

They’re not first rate places or anything, but she almost certainly has Medicaid if she has a tugboat.

From what I’ve gathered mental health care in her state is grim, but definitely not out of reach.
There’s a lot of organizations that are even sliding scale, and if she can’t get there in person most of the time there’s telehealth which has completely changed the game as far as accessibility to treatment.

For one reason or another she either doesn’t feel she deserves to get better, or can’t get better, or doesn’t want to get better.
Probably a combo.
End result is the same though.

She’s the first to admit she’s mentally fucked up and doesn’t live a happy life so it’s not like it’s weird but working for her.

 

[Lady Bizness]

If husband ever dies, never remarrying and most likely never dating.
Have those invasive morbid thoughts so my mind has taken me there.

That’s lightning striking twice finding a quality loving and hardworking and amazing man, not open in the least trying to find someone else plus starting over.

Godspeed to straight women kiwis that are dealing with men now, that 4B movement in SK makes a lot of sense and I can’t blame them.

Long time ago husband and I had a very stupid but very heated argument and near the end he got hysterical, thinking I was going to leave him and replace him immediately. That ended the whole argument because it gave me such a belly laugh. Oh no babe, you're it. As much as I'm annoyed by our very stupid arguments, I'm not striking gold a second time and quite frankly, I've had the man experience now. I'd be fine alone!