Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

From what I read it's a mix of both, women feel like they're unable to find suitable partners for marriage and family, but if that's not really the case it's most because they are prioritizing and focusing on themselves.
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Huh, I didn't really consider the lack of shotgun weddings but it definitely makes sense that it would play a part too. I used to assume it was an economic issue, but this makes more sense.
BTW isn't it funny how men are telling women how they're going to be crazy if they don't get married and have kids, but we're just seeing
more happier women while men are writing gay essays about how they can't breed? Isn't it funny how we constantly hear how men are
going totally opt-out from society, only to show up the next Tuesday for breadcrumbs because they can't put their money where
the mouth is?
I've long since accepted that any accusation moids make toward women, both accusations toward women as a group and personal accusations (especially any bit sexual), ALWAYS apply far more to the one levying them.
"The moid cries out in pain as he strikes you!"
 
Huh, I didn't really consider the lack of shotgun weddings but it definitely makes sense that it would play a part too. I used to assume it was an economic issue, but this makes more sense.
I have two coworkers who both did shotgun weddings at 18/19 and both heavily paid for it with deadbeat and abusive baby daddies that still affect their lives years/decades afterwards while I know a woman who never married her baby daddy of 5 kids but lives with him and files for medicaid as a single mom, shotgun weddings are a scourge that needed to die.
 
Hurtful Truth Level is about to be exceeded, sorry.

If a guy has acquired the oneitis/the hearteyes/however you wish to describe the affliction - and even moids are capable of this, it i merely a shallow transient attachment in their case, but they are also suseptible - it is not possible to stop them attempting to put a ring (and a lockdown) on it.

Guys are fucking obsessed with Their Claim on whatever they believe is the best lass they can get, especially if two important conditions are satisfied:
a - he believes she is substantially out of his league
b - she is desired by other males and therefore provides him with trophy status

When a dude is in this mode, he will do many mad things to convince the woman she should actually accept him as a life partner. The public proposals are only the tip of the iceberg.
Absolutely, just look at how many men dump their gf of many years and then get engaged to their new gf within a month.

I don't understand accepting anything less than a man who would move heaven and earth to be with you, but I especially don't understand women who chase after men. All the girls crying about "he won't text me back" "he won't make it official" "He won't introduce me to his family" etc etc. Just dump him and find some man who you don't have to beg to love you. It's never gonna happen if he doesn't see you that way and I think men know when they first meet you if you're "the one" or not and there's not really anything you can do about that. The issue is men will still date women they don't love and don't see themselves marrying just for the sex and acts of service and many women aren't aware of this. He's not "stressed from work" "depressed" or "doesn't like to text" he's just not that into you and you're wasting time you could use to find that man that would chase you across the world to be with you.
 
The cries about “muh mentuls” from men. The argument that “well it’s humiliating for men to get mental help which is why they suffer in silence or lash out” is so passé. Maybe it was an excuse 15-20 years ago but definitely not now. There’s even therapy apps to talk to someone 24/7, even if they are shitty and not a replacement for actual individualized therapy they still exist. But, instead of getting help they would rather just blame the world and fall into communities that circlejerk eachother. A woman rejected you? Definitely because she was just a whore that dates for money not because you’re a weirdo that has no social awareness and she just didn’t find you appealing. Couldn’t possibly be that! Lmao.
They can hide their emotions, but not the fact that they spend an hour a week talking to a therapist lmao. Remember, men are the gender that likes hard work and self improvement and who don't care about conforming to frivolous social standards
 
Absolutely, just look at how many men dump their gf of many years and then get engaged to their new gf within a month.

I don't understand accepting anything less than a man who would move heaven and earth to be with you, but I especially don't understand women who chase after men. All the girls crying about "he won't text me back" "he won't make it official" "He won't introduce me to his family" etc etc. Just dump him and find some man who you don't have to beg to love you. It's never gonna happen if he doesn't see you that way and I think men know when they first meet you if you're "the one" or not and there's not really anything you can do about that. The issue is men will still date women they don't love and don't see themselves marrying just for the sex and acts of service and many women aren't aware of this. He's not "stressed from work" "depressed" or "doesn't like to text" he's just not that into you and you're wasting time you could use to find that man that would chase you across the world to be with you.
This is a widespread brain rot, and I don't know where it comes from. But it's definitely a thing.

Long long ago, my then-friends sat me down for an 'intervention' regarding my then-boyfriend, on the grounds he was 'too serious about' me, and I was "too much of a priority". Fuck yes I was much priority, and I was not giving that up.

Why the fuck would I prefer to be an option, some sort of hobby to be dabbled in when it was convenient? Why the fuck would I find it desirable in a partner that they were just not that into me? The whole world is not that into me. The point of a romantic partner is that they are supposed to offset that by being the person who really, really is into you.

You deserve to be treated like you are important. Find someone to whom you actually are important.
 
I especially don't understand women who chase after men. All the girls crying about "he won't text me back" "he won't make it official" "He won't introduce me to his family" etc etc.
I think women do this with men who come on strong, trick women into thinking they're serious, and then back off (often hot and cold rather than totally off). Women usually tend to directly drop a guy if they aren't interested but guys will often do this and women, expecting them to communicate as clearly and directly as women do, end up being confused and still wondering/hoping/thinking that the guy's still interested (hence the chasing).
. He's not "stressed from work" "depressed" or "doesn't like to text" he's just not that into you and you're wasting time you could use to find that man that would chase you across the world to be with you.
Other women often gaslight women into buying these lies too. Tons of women will blame women for being "clingy" or not understanding enough when they find themselves stressed out by these excuses, which makes them then try to swallow their feelings instead of just cutting their losses and trying again. I think women are also averse to facing reality in these situations because it's genuinely hard finding guys attractive enough to want to date, so the rare times you do you don't want to let go, especially in the absence of an outright rejection (which men will never do).
 
Long long ago, my then-friends sat me down for an 'intervention' regarding my then-boyfriend, on the grounds he was 'too serious about' me, and I was "too much of a priority". Fuck yes I was much priority, and I was not giving that up.
lolwut. Until kids are involved, your partner is supposed to be prioritized. As much as I love my friends, they are not gonna remember to come look for me when the cruise ship is sinking, so to speak. Finding yourself ranked below his mom, video games, his bros, his work, and his hot gamer girl goth big titty bestie is how so many women end up shorted and mired in resentment. Why do people try to sabotage their friends' happiness LMAO.

But I guess it's how society has been brainwashed. Boggles the mind that low effort moids still claim relationships are designed to burn men out when nowadays they've reframed a downsize as a rightsize and eroded all expectations of romantic fulfillment. Yet somehow our standards are still too high.

Butterflies and sparks only happen with sociopaths. A nice first date is too high of an expectation. Actually, romantic dates in general aren't really a thing after you turn 25. Attraction and chemistry are superficial. Flirting is for children. Good sex is only in Hollywood. Romcons and other romantic media are always unrealistic. Wanting him to plan or pay for dates is selfish. Flowers are clutter. Not wanting to be called a bitch, cunt, brat, etc. is, paradoxically, bratty. Nice engagement rings and meaningful proposals are for the vain. Beautiful, thoughtful weddings are materialistic and wasteful. Children get in the way of DINK. Forgetting anniversaries and birthdays is perfectly normal.

All philosophies pushed, insisted upon, and forced by men, assisted by pick-me sidekicks who are happy to be cited by low effort men when they claim that they weren't attracted to our interested in their current husband after the first five dates, and the sex is mediocre, and they mostly just sit around the house, but they're glad they stomached it, because at the end of the day they got their proposal in the apartment bathroom with a Wal-Mart ring, the Star Trek themed wedding, and the baby he doesn't help with!
 
This is like one of those "one sentence horror" stories.
I am dying laughing.

I am a trekker and not even ashamed of it. I really wanted to go to Vegas and get married on the bridge of the Enterprise at Star Trek: The Experience, because you could do that way back when, but obviously I had to have a normal tasteful wedding at home like a normal person. It was a very beautiful wedding but lacked Ferengi.

We went to Vegas for our first anniversary because drinking big cocktails and gambling. When we arrived, he advised me we were booked for a 'vow renewal ceremony' on the Wednesday. Best. Present. Ever.

There were four dudes in costumes present, I got to buy and wear a new costume, we had dinner in Quark's Bar, we have the most incredible photo, and a special Star Trek wedding certificate. It was more exciting than our real wedding but I know I am not supposed to admit that. But there was an actual Klingon instead of my mother so obviously it was better.

The moral of the story is, if you find someone willing to actually go through with a wedding ceremony on the fucking bridge of the Enterprise in a Star Trek costume just because it will make you really happy.... fucking marry them. That one is a keeper.
 
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Got this sent to me today, thought of this thread.
 
,All the girls crying about "he won't text me back" "he won't make it official" "He won't introduce me to his family" etc etc. Just dump him and find some man who you don't have to beg to love you. It's never gonna happen if he doesn't see you that way and I think men know when they first meet you if you're "the one" or not and there's not really anything you can do about that.
All I want to do is complain about my husband's big fucking ego revolving around his superior dish-washing technique, but I feel compelled to comment on how I ended up with him in the first place. Unlike every guy I had dated, he actually called me right away, never left me on read, and was genuinely happy to see me. He still is to this day, no matter how grumpy I am when I get home. But gals, don't confuse being serious with love bombing. That shit never pans out.
His tactic with me was to demonstrate that he had value to offer me and that he was dependable. My loss if I didn't appreciate that. Naturally I was smitten with the idea of never having to pull petals off a daisy to figure out if he loves me or loves me not!
 
Butterflies and sparks only happen with sociopaths. A nice first date is too high of an expectation. Actually, romantic dates in general aren't really a thing after you turn 25. Attraction and chemistry are superficial. Flirting is for children. Good sex is only in Hollywood. Romcons and other romantic media are always unrealistic. Wanting him to plan or pay for dates is selfish. Flowers are clutter. Not wanting to be called a bitch, cunt, brat, etc. is, paradoxically, bratty. Nice engagement rings and meaningful proposals are for the vain. Beautiful, thoughtful weddings are materialistic and wasteful. Children get in the way of DINK. Forgetting anniversaries and birthdays is perfectly normal.
I don't know about all of these, but a lot of these are feminist dating advice twisted around to serve men. I am 100% certain that 'butterflies and sparks only happen with sociopaths/lovebombing' originated from advice given to those who had bad families of origin - that if your idea of normal is wrong based on your childhood, what will feel right to you will be wrong and you will pick the wrong guys. The first date thing, women were suggesting coffee/public place dates as easy to get away from if he seemed like a creep, unlike the social commitment/pressure of a restaurant date. Attraction/chemistry is superficial comes from suggesting you date someone you genuinely enjoy being around because you will (both) get older and your looks will change. Some feminists advocated splitting the bill so that men can't say that you owe them or feel entitled to sex because they've paid for dinner. Spending less on your wedding or engagement proposal wasn't about doing nothing but not giving into social media pressure and spending more than you could afford.

All or lots of these things were attempts by women to help themselves/ each other that men have weaponised against women.
 
Buy a Scrub Daddy. Those things rule.
He refuses to be cucked by a sponge calling itself Daddy. Did I mention he has a giant ego about dish washing? Flexes his Popeye forearms and says that's all we need. I still do the bulk of the dishwashing because I enjoy the sound of the water. I catch him rewashing or he watches me doing the dishes and makes the face which will start The Argument.
Ladies I'm telling you, men who do chores are better than men who don't, but they're still men, and they tend to be fucking nuts. Fair warning.
 
He refuses to be cucked by a sponge calling itself Daddy. Did I mention he has a giant ego about dish washing? Flexes his Popeye forearms and says that's all we need. I still do the bulk of the dishwashing because I enjoy the sound of the water. I catch him rewashing or he watches me doing the dishes and makes the face which will start The Argument.
Ladies I'm telling you, men who do chores are better than men who don't, but they're still men, and they tend to be fucking nuts. Fair warning.
If it makes you feel any better, I do the exact same thing to my wife. There is no greater pleasure in life than torturing your spouse a little as a treat.
 
I guess nobody has ever shared with her the wise words "If he wanted to, he would". How humiliating for her :'(

Men are currently losing their minds over this reddit post:

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Apparently men don't like being told that you want long term commitment with them and that you love him so much you want to marry him and not just fuck once but every day for the rest of your life? They want to be sexually objectified the way women are and told they are only good for their dicks and nothing more. Remind your bf/husband today that you're only with him for the sex and nothing else and that you will dump him of his dick ever stops working, he will probably be happy (no guarantees).

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Love and commitment is only for BETAS apparently. 🤪 I think this says a lot about how moids see marriage as "settling" and really all wish they could be manwhores forever, so they project this onto women.

Remind me again why men are crying about not getting their tradwife and "muh nuclear family"? Apparently being a provider, aka trad husband is actually not something they are interested in, they want to be manwhores instead. So why whine that no woman wants marriage with you if that's an insult anyway? Make it make sense.

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lmao
Her: "You're not hook-up material~ You're husband material~"

Him and somehow literally 95% of that thread::o :'(

Seriously, wtf?
 
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