Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Mandy Stroyer]

I don't have a good way to end this comment, I just...I felt like you girl-kiwis in here would Get It and know what I'm going through and have insights from your own experiences. I wish my ex would leave me alone.

As someone currently going through something similar, DO NOT RESPOND TO HIM WHATSOEVER.

Spoiler: the situ

I cut him off after nearly two years of being gaslit, verbally/emotionally abused, threatened, and stonewalled, listening to him throw mantrums over the phone and punching holes in his wall because "how I said hello felt demeaning". All I did was answer in a higher pitch because I was excited to talk. He admitted he was abusive twice and not willing to change but I stuck it out hoping I could convince him if I just kept communicating like he asked. Obviously every issue was my fault. Therapy, medication, articles and videos read or watched at his request. He shut me down every time I did what he wanted and refused to cooperate or take blame for anything. He was projecting and purposefuly creating situations to get pissy over.

He was so heartbroken that I left and would send goofy messages on alts trying to win me back, then he found out I told someone what he had done to me. Immediate, nonstop, graphic death threats for months. I caved and talked to him to ask him to get help because I'd feel responsible were he to hurt anyone else, he blamed me for "making him" send that shit because I wouldn't respond.

I also struggled with a lot of guilt after the initial cut off. I wanted to talk to him but knew he'd be mean again within days. He couldn't keep the facade up for long, it happened every time I came back. I didn't realize how manipulative he was until I pushed aside some guilt to make new friends (he made me abandon the last ones) who I'd send screenshots to. They'd immediately recognize what he was doing which was simultaneously reassuring and embarrassing. It made me realize he had been doing that the entire time I had known him. He got much more obvious about it when he started targeting known insecurities, making more detailed threats, going after anyone interacting with me, pretending to be me and saying awful things to push people away, saying if he did abuse or kill his next girlfriend that it'd be my fault for not stopping him. All of it accumulating into a whining fest of begging me to talk for just a few minutes.

That's what the entire thing was about. He wanted to talk for just a few minutes to see if he could rope me back in and these bouts of threats were only because it worked the first time. He's now devolved into suicidal threats and as much as I want to tell him to do it, that'd be giving him what he wants. He wants my attention because no one else is going to give him any. It is frustrating, although very funny, sending off whatever gun-to-head video comes through to the police who admit there is nothing they can or will do. Seems I'm not the only one who wants him dead at this point.

I do occasionally write to him but I never send anything. It's a reminder and an outlet for my aggression because unfortunately for me, unlike him, I'm aware sending detailed desires of wanting to bash his skull in with a rock until his eyes fall out and make him eat them is unhinged. Any sort of response to him means I care and caring means he has a chance still. It's very "man yells at cloud" because I am doing absolutely nothing back and it's only making him more pissed off and desperate. He seems to think this has led to zero consquences. He is "arrest on sight" if he is anywhere in my area because he has zero reason to be here and the police are fully aware he is armed so whoever spots him first is likely not going to be charged for shooting him.

These men have zero self awareness and are so delusional they genuinely think this sort of behavior gets them what they want if they just keep trying. It's clear he's stalking you from finding out about your sister, he thinks playing the good/down on his luck guy will make you change your mind, and sending you items back will serve as a reminder of him. He's such a good guy, even his ex wants to talk to him so why don't you? Don't you understand how much he's changed? How he's totally not seething at the idea that you are better off without him?

He's obsessed with you and the best thing you can do is pretend he doesn't and never existed.

 

[Kiwisee]

Moids: "Uh we need to stop killing child rapists and murderers and show some compassion actually!"

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Someone check this man's harddrive.

Progressive Scrotes always have far more compassion for pedophiles than for their victims. I have yet to be proven wrong on this one.

She's almost 60 years old you dumb gay nigger.

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Why are men so confused about aging? It's like a monkey being confused that time passes and people don't stay frozen in time forever. Getting married won't protect you from getting grey hair and wrinkles, in fact every time your husband leaves the toilet seat up you get another grey hair.

Scrotes are scared of their own mortality.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

I had a friend, who used to be fairly normal, then became a ''scriptwriter'' (like the type in Gavin de Becker's book), so I went no contact with him, it's been 6 years by now. He still writes to my sis from time to time, wants to meet her and he's angry that I told her ugly lies about him, so she doesn't want to see him either.
He also forwards her conversations with his ex-friends (including me) who ''wronged him'', to show he is the good one and others are bad. One time he copypasted a mail from an idiot guy who wanted to be friends with him again because he misses their outdoor adventures, just changed the names and sent it to her like it was intended for her. He forgot that he had sent conversations with that man to her before, or thought we aren't gonna recognize that remarkable pathetic wording. He also keeps sending her photos of dead animals he found.
As for me, I made myself a social media image, that makes people think I still work abroad. As for her, she doesn't seem to be much afraid, but on the other hand, she did not read de Becker and this forum, but at least she doesn't respond, to not proceed with his internal ''script''.

 

[Red flag]

From the whole letter this particular bit really stood out to me:

I'm probably risking something by even writing this, but I don't think that matters now.

What a slimy manipulative pos. Risking what?

What is this scumbag implying? He's risking upsetting you further by forcing his obnoxious self back into your life during a time of grief? Or that you'd report his obsessive ass to the cops for harassment?

He preemptively coddles himself in his letter to you. "I'm risking (something), but it doesn't matter, because I'm such an empathetic hero and doing it for your sake uwu."

I concur with everyone here, do not reply ever. The absolute best way to deal with any moid is completely starving them of attention.

However, I would not throw away the evidence. He seems unhinged and having a paper trail of him constantly pestering you while you've never responded tends to work in your favour should the need for legal action ever arises. Just file it away somewhere out of sight.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

That's what I did with the last one he sent a few years ago. I wish I could find it again to show you guys how ridiculous it is, the very beginning of it was him describing the typewriter he bought (that he was hand-typing it on, in his car, at some library somewhere.)

Very precious. He's in love with himself.

Do not bother another minute about him. . And practice excising him from your mind. You don't need the clutter.

 

[crazedaze]

She's almost 60 years old you dumb gay nigger.

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Why are men so confused about aging? It's like a monkey being confused that time passes and people don't stay frozen in time forever. Getting married won't protect you from getting grey hair and wrinkles, in fact every time your husband leaves the toilet seat up you get another grey hair.

Niggerfaggot to women: get married in your 20s and have babies before you HIT THE WALL
Niggerfaggot to moids: NEVER marry because they just want your MONEY and to BABYTRAP YOU, get women to abort for you like I did, date younger women and pump and dump them because they will all eventually HIT THE WALL, when your woman hits the wall LEAVE HER so that she becomes a single mom and we can slap dicks while laughing at how used up and unwanted and lonely she is
Women should NEVER listen to moids. They're retarded

 

[Xev]

I'll say this about aging. When women age they at least still look like women. Alot of guys have this weird thing happen where they get dumpy around the hips and ass and their faces start to feminize, to the point they kinda look like your old lesbian aunt. Maybe low t?

 

[crazedaze]

Man murders and maims some kids and gets only 20 years. He was sexually harassing girls and these kids were doing what moids always sayvis their supposed job.
Comments are full of faggots saying the kids deserved it, they PROVOKED him. PROVOKE a murdering harassing moid and get what's coming to you. Who's worried about provoking young women? Who would defend us for killing a man who deserves it after making us uncomfortable?
I wish constant pain on moids today. They coddle murderers because they identify more with the outrage of being provoked by a society that doesn't let them run wild and free on the rest of us like the animals they are.
Eta also note that the chick in the thumbnail is shooped in, because this of of course porn to moids. All the women in the video are fat.

 

[Galaxolotl]

Anorexic crack faggot troon is chosen over Anok Yai as model of the year. It's fun to see black chicks peaking in real time, the troons aren't helping themselves with the "black women are men" discourse they love to pull out in situations like this.

 

[Baumstriezel]

Oh hey, he's the gross cro-magnon who made sleazy jokes about sucking dick at the victoria's secret event. Hope the award helps with the incoming male pattern baldness, kek.

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

Anorexic crack faggot troon is chosen over Anok Yai as model of the year. It's fun to see black chicks peaking in real time, the troons aren't helping themselves with the "black women are men" discourse they love to pull out in situations like this.

Having them next to each other just makes Anok Yai look even better. It's like putting a goddess next to a goblin.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Anorexic crack faggot troon is chosen over Anok Yai as model of the year. It's fun to see black chicks peaking in real time, the troons aren't helping themselves with the "black women are men" discourse they love to pull out in situations like this.

I have no idea how is this even legal, In france models have to be of normal bmi above 19 I think certified by a doctor. This guy is in the negative . Its terrible for people in general.

 

[w1tchbastard]

I had a friend, who used to be fairly normal, then became a ''scriptwriter'' (like the type in Gavin de Becker's book), so I went no contact with him, it's been 6 years by now. He still writes to my sis from time to time, wants to meet her and he's angry that I told her ugly lies about him, so she doesn't want to see him either.
He also forwards her conversations with his ex-friends (including me) who ''wronged him'', to show he is the good one and others are bad. One time he copypasted a mail from an idiot guy who wanted to be friends with him again because he misses their outdoor adventures, just changed the names and sent it to her like it was intended for her. He forgot that he had sent conversations with that man to her before, or thought we aren't gonna recognize that remarkable pathetic wording. He also keeps sending her photos of dead animals he found.
As for me, I made myself a social media image, that makes people think I still work abroad. As for her, she doesn't seem to be much afraid, but on the other hand, she did not read de Becker and this forum, but at least she doesn't respond, to not proceed with his internal ''script''.

It's terrifying how many often men get obsessed with women over things like dating to end a friendship or even just an acquaintance. It doesn't even have to be someone you met in real life anymore. It happened to me when I was younger, I never even met him and I literally only talked to him for a few months and it was mostly in a group chat. He knew of me before I even knew he existed.

 

[Inside your walls]

Oh hey, he's the gross cro-magnon who made sleazy jokes about sucking dick at the victoria's secret event. Hope the award helps with the incoming male pattern baldness, kek.

I feel very divisive about this, on one hand this is very frustrating because that female model looks gorgeous while he looks absolutely ghoulish. Twink death will hit him harder the planes hit the twin towers with no estrogen and cosmetic surgery being able to cover that, but on the other hand the fashion model industry is incredibly unethical, abusive and hostile towards women due it being controlled by misogynistic gay men with clear end goal to remove women from the industry and whose ideal female body is that not of a woman, but of a tall anorexic pre-pubescent androgynous child hence why they starve out female models, so the idea of goids replacing women with HSTS trannies in this industry so they can commit goid on goid violence and perform eugenics by sterilizing effeminate goids through trooning out and making them develop eating disorders? Maybe in that case failmen like this dude should take this current iteration of fashion industry's space because at least there won't be beautiful women and vulnerable young girls that were groomed into doing god knows what so they can be part of this industry suffering anymore.

Obviously I'm not advocating for women to lose this space, but I think this space currently is very hostile towards women, does not hold women's best interest despite
insisting its empowering women and would have go through a massive reformation in order to become an actual woman-industry. So the idea of the whole fashion
industry crashing down because goids in charge wanted to play eugenics simulator before it can be remade hopefully into something better is funny.

 

[Stan]

I have had a theory for a while that besides molestation and sexual availability, some gay dudes are gay simply because they are massive narcissists. Something along the lines of "I'm a man, I'm the best and therefore I can only love the best which is another man, or myself projected unto another man" could also explain their obsession with getting sons from surrogates.

That’s archaic Greek faggotry in a nutshell, they think the manliest sex you can have is with another man (or a young boy… :puke

The Greeks were the living embodiment of the “fellas, is it gay to have sex with my wife?” Meme.

I'm probably risking something by even writing this

Translation: Woe is me how dare you leave me!

 

[Chromeo]

That’s archaic Greek faggotry in a nutshell, they think the manliest sex you can have is with another man (or a young boy… :puke

If sex is domination for men, not an act of love and connection, then the highest form of domination is overtaking someone who should be able to dominate YOU, like another man who would normally be able to rip your arms off like a chimp. You've lowered another man to the helpless/"fuckable" status, therefore it's better than dominating a woman, who was already there to begin with. It's like the same urge that drives men to take brilliant women and force them into being tradwives when trad women already exist.

 

[Stan]

throw it in the trash. do not validate him with anything. it seems hard now, but eventually, one day, you're going to wake up and never think about him again. all this would do is prolong the time it takes to do that. look at how destructive having his attention is, why would you give up everything to live in it?

One day you're going to forget him, and then 10 years later have a dream about him, and...

Spoiler: real moid behavior examples

and then when you wake up you look him up on LinkedIn finally and discover that in the intervening 20 years since you guys were together he has... (choose one)

1. Got himself hooked on opioids and works off and on as a delivery driver in Boone and he might be HIV+ now
2. Married his job as a high school band director, has a GF he doesn't much like but keeps around because she can pay rent, drowning in student loan debt, and would be happy to add you back in on the side just don't like, ask anything of him, because he goes hot and cold randomly and will suddenly dump you again the same way he dumped you when *you* were 16 and the same way he dumped his ex-wife Emily.
3. Hit the wall, lost his hair, and turned into a 24/7 Dr. Eggman cosplay. Started dating a 16 year old girl in Riyadh, and in between semesters teaching English to unmotivated sandnigs he has to move back into his childhood bedroom in his parents' place in Katonah.

I'm serious, those are real fates that have befallen the men who felt they could do better than me. AFAIK all of them regret it, but especially that band director guy. The lot of moids is to fuck around and find out when it comes to women. Every single one of them has the "one that got away". They try to monkey-branch up to something better and then they get their wake up call when they hit the wall at 25, absolutely unreal.

If sex is domination for men, not an act of love and connection, then the highest form of domination is overtaking someone who should be able to dominate YOU, like another man who would normally be able to rip your arms off like a chimp. You've lowered another man to the helpless/"fuckable" status, therefore it's better than dominating a woman, who was already there to begin with. It's like the same urge that drives men to take brilliant women and force them into being tradwives when trad women already exist.

It's why men are so obsessed with anal sex, because it's painful and women are reluctant to agree to it. Hurting your partner seems to be the point. That's why they want you to scream, clench, etc. and that makes them feel more like men. They want "conquest", even though that implies that they view sex as violence. Men like to push women's boundaries because they like the control and the knowledge that they're making her do something uncomfortable "for him". I've heard it from men: vaginal sex feels better than anal. Men like the conscious control women can exert over the pelvic floor and the natural lube and the feedback and the breeding potential. The only reason they ever act like anal is better is because they like the opportunity to degrade their partner more than they like actual physical pleasure.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

Anorexic crack faggot troon is chosen over Anok Yai as model of the year. It's fun to see black chicks peaking in real time, the troons aren't helping themselves with the "black women are men" discourse they love to pull out in situations like this.

He looks like he's trying to skinwalk Anja Rubik (and failing miserably)

 

[Tutu]

Anorexic crack faggot troon is chosen over Anok Yai as model of the year. It's fun to see black chicks peaking in real time, the troons aren't helping themselves with the "black women are men" discourse they love to pull out in situations like this.

This is truly a man's world. Anok Yai has such an exceptional beauty that a real woman who looks as ugly as this troon would never be picked over her. He gets to be the "Model of the Year" and the only reason is he has XY chromosomes. It is wild that he was born in 2003! Do you think any female model his age would get a pass for looking this old?

That's a rough hairline for 21... I also don't know why troons think being underweight will help them pass, anorexia only brings more attention to their burgeoning male bone structure

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Either way, I thought about writing him back. Sometimes I also miss my friend, our jokes, the time we spent together that didn't suck. You don't stay with someone that long and not have feelings and good memories! But I can't be his friend again because I KNOW that any in I give him is a chance for him to hurt me, and he's gonna keep hurting me and not understanding that he's doing it (or maybe he's more aware than I give him credit for and he's playing stupid and knows he hurts me.) I wrote out a letter, but I realized at some point that even a response is an in!! I'm going insane!
I don't have a good way to end this comment, I just...I felt like you girl-kiwis in here would Get It and know what I'm going through and have insights from your own experiences. I wish my ex would leave me alone.

I had an online friend who expressed romantic interest in me one too many times and I cut off the friendship. It sucked because I did genuinely enjoy him as a friend 95% of the time. I was receiving letters for almost a year. Keep the letters as potential ammunition/evidence (along with the dated and stamped envelope). You do still need to read anything he sends you as you need to know if there is something especially alarming in there. Do no give him any response (that includes returning to sender, that is still a response). Invest in a doorbell cam and a gun. Realize you may have a long time before he stops trying to contact you.