Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[S@credC]

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Uum achtually this woman wearing a string bikini with no bottom, thigh twice as thick as her waist, uncomfortably arched back and perfectly round tits defying gravity isn't sexualized at all, you just hate the natural female form.
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Yeah those are totally the same pictures.
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Edit: as much as I do love the original lilo and stitch, I'm tired of the internet praising its character designs. All of the Hawaiian women look the same. The Hawaiian dancers are all Nani clones and there's a liveguard who looks like Nani but with blonde hair and bigger tits. then there's the white petshop keeper who looks like an extra from 101 dalmatians. Such diversity. Nani doesn't have a big butt for diversity point but because that's what Chris Sanders is attracted to.

Oh, God, I H A T E how Chris Sanders draws his women with those basketball like boobs defying gravity. Made worse that he draws them wearing teeny little tops that have no support.

SIR. BOOBS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. YOU ARE MARRIRD TO A WOMAN. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.

Terrible, because him and Dean DeBlois made Lilo and Stitch and How To Train Your Dragon, two of my favorite animated films.

It amuses me that 1940s moids were referring to the women as "modern women" and bitching about the 1950s as being a gynocracy. While modern penisniggers are romanticizing this past as being a utopia.
They are truly incapable of having an original thought.

They are incapable of thought. Or logic.

 

[Aunt Carol]

To be fair Chris Sanders draws ALL women like that, regardless of race. He has a fetish for fish-looking women.

Someone point this guy at Shadow Over Innsmouth; he could sell Disney on making the first Deep One Hybrid princess.

 

[Galaxolotl]

Oh, God, I H A T E how Chris Sanders draws his women with those basketball like boobs defying gravity. Made worse that he draws them wearing teeny little tops that have no support.

SIR. BOOBS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. YOU ARE MARRIRD TO A WOMAN. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.

I know this is the man hate thread but Frank Frazetta remains undefeated when it comes to drawing boobs and the female form, although slightly stylized and his love for the cat eyed thing, his women look fairly normal.

 

[Kyff]

Unless he planned to just knock someone up and leave her to raise the baby.

You know well he wants to "nurse" a baby

 

[Steam Deck Verified]

This is in response to a woman complaining about a man's $200K plus "two marriages" room spanning star wars lego set.

I fucking love that men, for years, were sucking each other's cocks that "women don't have hobbies, they think consooming is a hobby" to tear down any small joy that women found in their day-to-day lives, and "prove" that men are the ones with REAL hobbies and are REALLY changing the world. And once the spotlight is on them and it's revealed that the average male hobbies actually involve poopsocking in a gaming chair for 8 hours straight, or paying for custom porn, or spending six figures on custom dice/tabletops/waifu figurines/fucking Star Wars Legos -- and women find all this unattractive -- they fell apart saying that women just hate to see men happy.

"What even is the point, man" Faggot, we have been BEGGING men like you for years to remove yourself from the dating pool if you have nothing to offer and just bitch and whine about get "nagged." Nobody wants to date you. It would be a chore to be married to you. Instead you keep pissing in the pool and complaining online and sulking about how your dream submissive cooperative barely legal tradloli racist supermodel gf hasn't fallen into your lap yet. Just PassportBro yourself to a third world country and get fleeced, murdered, and then buried in an oil drum by some scammer.

 

[bigfatfujoshi]

im sick of wannabe women being mad that we dont want them invading our bathrooms. im so sorry jake turned jessica, i didnt know it hurt you that bad to not smell womens shit so you can wank off in the bathroom.

 

[Chappell's Lost Earring]

Wish all women could get such vengeance on their rapists.

She does seem mentally ill and her family seems batshit insane, but maybe she will serve as a cautionary tale to some scrotes not to rape women, in case she turns out to be batshit crazy. Keep it in your pants, or they could turn around to shoot you in the back of the head 4 years later.

They should fear us. Especially in countries where we also have the right to bear arms.

 

[Jeanette Voerman]

They counted women being afraid of being raped walking home alone at night as a fantasy. Beyond useless data. They also didn’t account for the influence and normalisation of this stuff via porn.

Do you have a source? I believe you, but I want to be able to back my claims up when moids bring up rape fetish stuff.

 

[keke]

Do you have a source? I believe you, but I want to be able to back my claims up when moids bring up rape fetish stuff.

Firstly. Don’t engage with moids for reasons other than optics. Drop your counter info for the normies to see so they don’t just absorb the disinformation as truth, but don’t debate. They are always bad faith and view women as only half-human. Don’t waste time on them or take them seriously. They must be wholly discarded.

Mention the statistic that 45% of men sexually fantasize about watching their female partners with other men (https://www.businessinsider.com/cuckolding-fantasy-more-popular-in-us-2023-7). If they say this seems too high and express doubt, remember that they were so willing to accept the absurdly high rape statistic one. Being cucked is a lot less open for interpretation. Don’t engage, just shit on and move on, again: they view women as less than human and will believe anything damaging to them. It takes twice as long to correct a lie, so having a similar study for men is a worthwhile alternative. (thread where I first saw this: https://x.com/autumnpard/status/1895579677399662996)

[EDIT2: In the published book/data cited in the article, the number is actually 58% with a cuckholding fantasy, where they watch their partner with another man. He also looked at rape fantasies and pointed out it’s not similar to real life assault because the person fantasising is fully in control, and a fantasy is not a desire.]

Now. Main points on the ‘rape fantasy’ study: it had a 355 sample size, the 62% included aversive fantasies as stated in its abstract. It also includes women who thought about it once in an entire year. Like fuck off.

Spoiler: More on the specific study + source

The study is from 2009, published in The Journal of Sex Research and titled: ‘The nature of women's rape fantasies: an analysis of prevalence, frequency, and contents.’ It’s paywalled.

It found that 62% of female undergraduates reported having had a rape fantasy. However, this figure is based on a specific sample of 355 college students. Only 14% of these fantasises were regular, most were only a median 4 times in a single year, which included non-erotic (aversive) fantasies. So, that 62% number is inflated because includes aversive fantasies (e.g. walking home at night and being fearful of attack), erotic fantasies (which can vary widely), and also a mix of erotic/aversive (no idea how they defined that, further inflating the number with more aversive fantasies).

The methodology involved self-reported data, and while participants were given some definitions to work with, it’s still up for interpretation. Additionally, the variations in individual experiences or the context in which these fantasies occur wasn’t examined, which erases the essential nuance from these self-reports. Were these women porn watchers? Do they simply buy into the whole ‘helpless maiden’ fantasy? Did they have a past of sexual trauma?

Edit: Also, as prev stated, the median participant reported thinking about it 4 times in an entire year. Hardly counts as an actual fantasy at that point, jfc.

The full study is behind a paywall. I can’t find where I first saw it criticised and linked but I really wish I could just to give credit, but search engines are unusably shit now, and the xitter bookmark search function doesn’t work. EITHER WAY everything I said now is evident from the abstract.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

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Ok, srsly.... am I being paranoid?

Man: Society is horrible and I helped someone!
Jew flag: Women ruined it for everyone because muh false rape accusations or something.
Man: You're right jew flag! I should hate women for this!

Me: *puppy head tit* Is it THAT easy to manipulate these retards?

Late response sorry but brit influencers who won't risk alienating their potential american paypigs by telling them we don't have that kind of metasized lawsuit culture here, should be shot.

 

[fake farts]

The study is from 2009, published in The Journal of Sex Research and titled: ‘The nature of women's rape fantasies: an analysis of prevalence, frequency, and contents.’ It’s paywalled.

This seems to be the full study.

https://sci-hub.se/10.1080/00224490802624406

Interesting to note the "Perpetrator's identity" being "partner or ex-partner" ranks the highest, as does the "Perpetrator’s motives" being "Physical attraction to self-character" and "Romantic attraction to self-character". "Self-character", if you are a lurking moid who has trouble keeping up at home, means the woman being asked the questions. Not much gross strangers violently raping women in a dark parking deck to be found here.

The attitudes of the fantasizer also rank in the negative at 33% and in the "both positive and negative" at 28%.

In short, it comes off like women who may be disturbed on some level, or very confused. A lot of it seems to be little more than rough sex or, in modern faggy BDSM terms, "consensual non-consensual" shit. The findings of them expressing guilt after the fantasies is also unsurprising.

It also, unsurprisingly, shows that many of the women who participated had a history of receiving sexual violence. No shit, being a rape victim can fuck your head up.

History of Sexual Aggression Among the sample participants, 78% had some history of sexual coercion (answered yes to at least 1 of the 13 items on the scale). The mean total coercion score was 2.87 (SD ¼ 1.78 ).Twenty-one percent reported that they had experienced acts that would constitute rape.

This is the shit moids always throw at us, to try to prove women are not just the same, but somehow worse than men. If that's the truth, then why do I not hear more stories of men lamenting watching videos of women getting assaulted and raped online?

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

I hope Andrew Tate gets testicular cancer for being a child abusing pedophile

I wish he'd been born in the 1920s so he could be lynched like he deserves for being a rapey negro.

 

[Ms. Dia Gnosis]

Yet another man cheats on a pregnant wife a mere days after doing a Q&A video with her and talking about how everybody should trust each other

https://people.com/pregnant-youtuber-wizard-liz-accuses-fiance-landon-nickerson-of-cheating-11744304

"Nickerson responded to Liz's claims in a series of since-deleted Instagram Stories, though screen recordings have been reposted online. In clips resurfaced on X, Nickerson admitted that he "made a mistake," but he maintained "that doesn't mean that I don't love Liz." He continued, "I love her with my entire heart, and we have a baby on the way"

How do men keep doing this?

 

[BunchaBabyDucks]

Petty thing to bitch about incoming
I know scrolling the comments is only for total retards but I am so tired of anything Doechii related being bombarded by zoomer nigger males screaming about her being an industry plant. It’s like the second someone annunciates while rapping their brains turn off, they must hear mumbleslop it is their God given right.
‘Da anxiety song is buns industry plant fr fr on guh’’
Don’t make the comment and it won’t keep popping up on your TL you low IQ gorilla nigger.

This shit all started when ‘Anxiety’ started trending too, despite the comment moid mob liking the version with Sleepy Hallow on it. They hate seeing women have careers.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Scrotes seem to not understand that, unless she got implants, ain’t no woman under 160 pounds is gonna have C-D cups because that’s not how fat distribution works.

Not trying to detract from your overall point about giant fake tits on skinny girls, but we really need to make it common knowledge that cup size is relative to your band size. 30D, 32C, and 34B are all the same cup size. I used to wear badly fitting bras because of "C/D cup = big boobs" propaganda. If your bra moves around when you raise your arms, you're probably wearing the wrong band size and you should learn how to measure yourself.

Spoiler

Also diseases that cause hormonal imbalances can make you gain a lot of weight in your chest while remaining skinny. Hasn't happened to me, but I know women it's happened to. There's probably a discussion to be had there about men sexualizing women's health issues.

That's all I wanted to say, let the man hate resume.

 

[Kiwisee]

Yet another man cheats on a pregnant wife a mere days after doing a Q&A video with her and talking about how everybody should trust each other

https://people.com/pregnant-youtuber-wizard-liz-accuses-fiance-landon-nickerson-of-cheating-11744304

"Nickerson responded to Liz's claims in a series of since-deleted Instagram Stories, though screen recordings have been reposted online. In clips resurfaced on X, Nickerson admitted that he "made a mistake," but he maintained "that doesn't mean that I don't love Liz." He continued, "I love her with my entire heart, and we have a baby on the way"

How do men keep doing this?

Staceys should stop settling for these dysgenic rat faced men. They tend to be just as dishonest as they look.

 

[Birthday Cat]

Oh, God, I H A T E how Chris Sanders draws his women with those basketball like boobs defying gravity. Made worse that he draws them wearing teeny little tops that have no support.

SIR. BOOBS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. YOU ARE MARRIRD TO A WOMAN. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS.

Terrible, because him and Dean DeBlois made Lilo and Stitch and How To Train Your Dragon, two of my favorite animated films.

ehh i agree with you some but i think situations like that are a bit nuanced. most obvious is that in a children's film shit shouldn't be sexualized or at least blatantly so, and they whipped him under control to what we got. if we got the concept art there'd be a problem, but instead we got the original cover which is just cute. that dude seems to be brain damaged or something because he seems to confuse the concept art with the vhs cover and the irl image. the design in the film is more conservative and like the irl image, the concept art is cheesecake. in general there's quite a few well renowned artists that both have a great art style under control and turbo pervs when not, like paul dini. nice, identifiable art that would turn into robin fuckin harley and batgirl fuckin batman uncontrolled. Stjepan Šejić started turbo horny but can also do very nice art when controlled like most of his Harleen.
Hell, I'll hit you with some hot takes, even Sei Shoujo of Bible Black notoriety under control, and various other degen artists, can do damn good art when not full degen

and as mentioned, people like frazetta are obviously mega horny but that can also materialize as appreciation for the female form, which can lend to conventionally attractive characters and not troon jaw syndrome or other shit. i'm also unaware of anything else sexual in how to train your dragon besides the weird action innuendo and nani is childhood crush material but not too sexy for a kids film like chel in el dorado or others. maybe they make gooner shit to practice or sell or just to goon, but imo main thing in that environment is management. they choose who to draw, make the calls, and can tell them to tone it down/up or accept it. main thing is if you got attached to childrens properties like disney i'd make sure to take extra steps so kids can't easily access gooner versions.

main thing about proportions is women being made bloblike is becoming very common to make troons feel better, which creates people that swing the other way and want twigs and volleyballs back, ideally we'd have something approaching a average attractive woman but current day creates extremes.

honestly though it's an interesting topic to think about, imo another way of approaching and connecting it would be using the example of "if marilyn manson, as brian warner, became a cleaned up wholesome children's entertainer ie mr rogers, would that be acceptable or commendable? are there ways to protect children from extreme content? could there be ways made? could a porn star do the same?"

 

[starbies]

Yet another man cheats on a pregnant wife a mere days after doing a Q&A video with her and talking about how everybody should trust each other

https://people.com/pregnant-youtuber-wizard-liz-accuses-fiance-landon-nickerson-of-cheating-11744304

"Nickerson responded to Liz's claims in a series of since-deleted Instagram Stories, though screen recordings have been reposted online. In clips resurfaced on X, Nickerson admitted that he "made a mistake," but he maintained "that doesn't mean that I don't love Liz." He continued, "I love her with my entire heart, and we have a baby on the way"

How do men keep doing this?

I have a lot to say on this topic. I used to watch Liz a lot back in the day. I kinda stopped watching her around the time I found this thread, so it was news to me that she was married, much less soon-to-be-divorced.

Everything about this situation is milky. If you don't know Liz is a self-help coach for women: a lot of her videos are about confidence and being assertive, but also about bs like manifestation. She's probably the most famous manifestation coach out there and a blueprint for all the manifestation tiktokers you see these days. She's also a self-described mudslime.
Not to say I disrespect her, but it's a example of how falling for moid propaganda and moid system will set you up for failure.

In an interview that Liz and Landon (scrote) did together on Liz's youtube channel, they talked about how they met. Apparently the guy lost money, and his suitcase just appeared next to the spot Liz was sitting in an airport in Greece of all places. They don't mention it in the interview but apparently Landon and Liz knew each other way before this "meet-cute".

So anyway, Liz keeps saying how she "manifested" Landon and he was the answer to her prayers - how they had a lot in common especially in terms of manifestation.
This girl spent years teaching other girls to watch out for red flags and run at the first sign of trouble, just to put on her rose-tinted glasses in the form of "prayers" and "manifestation". This guy knew all the right things to say and she fell for it. One could argue that he was studying her but that's a different topic.

Liz tended to date offline men, or at least men that she never showed on camera. This is the first time I think that her partner showed up on screen. They also got married relatively quickly, within 8-9 months IIRC. Maybe the guy showing up on her social media pressured her to move on with it, but it's difficult to know.

She also has a history of dating men who are rich. Not saying that's a bad thing at all, but according to herself her past relationships were pretty bad. So it's clear she herself fell for the "protector and provider" propaganda where women think if a man buys you Birkin and tells you he'll provide for you, he's totally gonna be loyal to you. I think even in the interview I mentioned, Landon talks about the provider mindset.

Both left-wing and right-wing women need to wake up to the fact that all "all men are bad except 'certain' groups of men" is just moid-posturing.

 

[Hand Banana]

I know this is the man hate thread but Frank Frazetta remains undefeated when it comes to drawing boobs and the female form, although slightly stylized and his love for the cat eyed thing, his women look fairly normal.

Frazetta was into cuck BBC porn though.

Makes me think of how many moid artists had secret porn stashes that we never knew about. Osamu Tezuka was also a furry and transformation fetishist.

I don't even know how you develop that kind of fetish pre-internet. Makes me think of how you rarely see women with these fetishes. I wish scientists would study the moid mind and why they develop these incredibly fucked up fetishes, but I imagine the conclusion would be too blackpilling and would lead to the end of the species.

 

[Chappell's Lost Earring]

This girl spent years teaching other girls to watch out for red flags and run at the first sign of trouble, just to put on her rose-tinted glasses in the form of "prayers" and "manifestation".

Both left-wing and right-wing women need to wake up to the fact that all "all men are bad except 'certain' groups of men" is just moid-posturing.

I enjoy quite a bit of new aged bullshit, but gas lighting yourself using new age bullshit in romance that ends with you in toxic situations is where I draw the line. You can’t “manifest” a good man. You either get lucky, or you end up a statistic. Same with prayers. Christian women aren’t any safer because they’ve been praying to Jesus for a good husband. Both types of women can be cheated on, assaulted, or murdered by their male partners. Don’t let your spirituality or religion cause you to be delusional.

I will say, I don’t know if there’s anything she could have done - except wait longer to marry or get pregnant. Usually if someone is being extra with you early on, it’s because they want something from you or are trying to take advantage. That goes for partners, friends, jobs, salesman. Don’t let yourself get played.