Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate & Woman-Hate Thread-Hate Thread

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And i know what you think buuut women porn no they don't
57% of casually dating women vs. 25% casually dating men
60% of seriously dating women vs. 25% of seriously dating men
61% of engaged women vs. 38% of engaged men
65% of married women vs. 37% married men
women produce and consume porn all the time. they just hide their behavior behind the term "erotica" because they're ashamed of their behavior and want to pretend they're not just as deviant as men

just because your harry potter choking sex porn is in novel form instead of image form doesn't make it any less pornographic

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You mean. Big data throwing shit and people just looking at it and saying is a research.
Lmao, data isn't data. Ok.

You don't explain the other half of the point. Why then 95 % of porn addiction inquiries are from men ?
The question was if women watch porn. The answer is they do, about 3 out of 10, at least for pornhub and they have a noticeable preference for rough violent sex. Not what portion of users believe they have an addiction or not. This is you seething, don't forget to dilate.

You know how you can see bad data because the other data surrounding it doesn't add up
And here you are coping even more.

PornHub has no idea what sex their users are, people who actually believe that the people who click "woman" when registering an account on a porn site are 100% women are beyond retarded.
So what portion are not women? 1%, 5% or 10%? Trannies despite their outsized media presence are rare. Women always seething that porn is no longer just something men do. From DV to porn to everything else, women always seething about something.
 
You would find select goobers from various age groups getting railed by an old phat lady with a strap on.

E: oh and a metric fuck ton of cocaine
how the fuck you end up fat and use cocaine? wtf is this lunacy i read on her profile? Also jesus i thought i was hit with the ugly shoe that woman takes the cake .
 
Since we were on the topic of rough sex, here's what Ms. Cock had to say about it.
Men like rough sex, I’m usually pretty aggressive, I’ve had men tell me my advances are “rapey” but they also don’t have the luxury of walking around cities at night fearing actual rape. Most men who do get genuinely raped usually take that shit to the grave, almost no men report their rape, when it actually does happen.
 
- our men know when to say yes dear and let some petty wins to the women for the sake of preserving marrige and staying together as long as the women also towed the line and perform their duties
Real and decent men in the West are capable of having tact and knowing when/when not to make a thing of something. I hear how men I work with (very late x/older millenials) talk about their wives. I'm thinking of 3 of them, all with young-to-early high school-aged kids. 2 of them have great and pretty seamless marriages, so whatever tact or refrain they might have to use for the sake of the marriage (or just standard getting along with people like an adult), they do. [The third's marriage is tumultuous, sort of a tornado meets a volcano type, and I don't think he does too much yes, dear-ing, but tbh I don't put that all on him, knowing what I know. But even though he seems pretty miserable, he will never cheat and never divorce if he can prevent it - not because he is a simp (at all - he's one of the most stubborn and ornery people you might ever meet), but because he believes in the commitment of marriage, even a terribly conflict-ridden one.] And for perspective and data points, one of these men married as a teen, one in his mid-20s, and one in his 30s, all to women about their same age. All of them have fairly traditional division of duties (but not that stupid "trad" shit) in the home, and all 3 men are highly engaged with their kids. They come from a variety of backgrounds and live in different regions of the country. All do pretty well financially and are good at what they do.

- there is no where near hysteria about she had better than me bf in bed or with bigger dick. You just dont ask dont tell policy unless you want a specific request towards the wife
Insisting on knowing this stuff is a sucker's game. I don't know why some men insist on knowing or otherwise ruminate. The insecurity is ridiculous. And answering the question is a trap.

- there are no separate savings accounts
Why not? Is no one allowed to set aside some money they don't have to answer for? I'm not talking about stashing money for bad purposes, just a personal account that isn't part of household accounting and is money not needed for the household. This seems especially important if one person is the gatekeeper/financial manager for the household. In the old days, this was called pin money, and it was very important for women.

- they know how to fix shit around the house without hurthing themselves and others
Many men do this, or at least are willing to pony up for someone with skills to do it.

You gals have lots of statistics and maybe some of them are valid, and maybe some of them aren't. I don't really think you try all that hard to distinguish between good and bad research when it's supporting your case.
I have, many times and on many subjects, provided multiple, valid, unbiased sources (or included statistics from a source with opposite perspectives/conclusions) of data and research, and the response was...crickets, followed by continuing to repeat assertions disproved or challenged by what they didn't or couldn't digest.

tldr: if you keep pulling out the numbers to prove Men Bad, you will always end up arguing over the ways that he personally doesn't fit your stereotype
Any idiot with at least half a brain can understand that statistics (that don't show 100% do x) are about general concepts or behavior. #notall is a duh. And better to deal with at least substantiated tendencies than relying on unsubstantiated ones.

But funny, from the top of this comment of yours to the bottom you illustrated a deserved critique: 1) "women don't understand or use data" then 2) "you shouldn't use data to show patterns of behavior or the extent of a problem because you'll offend the guy it doesn't apply to."

Men started this bs generalisations long time ago, starting from marriage and the ball and chain joke to spreading myths and legends about child support and family courts because admitting you are deadbeat is far worse socially. The problem is they held us accountable colectively for some bitch doing some stupid shit and then they are suprised when we pull statistics in their faces and show they are full of shit. No offense but open twitter and youtube and watch WOMAN GET OWNED, WOMEN STUPID , WOMEN DONT TAKE ACCOUNTABLITY ( the irony of this is off the charts btw), DIVORSE RAPE, FAMILY COURTS and it shows in the statistics.
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gather a consensus amongst yourselves before sending your complaints to the council of Men
Why? Women don't think all the same.

if a guy spontaneously starts choking a girl during sex without her consent
Yes, that would be wrong, regardless of the sex of anyone involved, duh.

Yeah it's totally women who are to blame for the shocking rise of men men choking women TO DEATH during sex, which is what that article says in my post that you screenshotted. It's totally women yelling "choke me harder" and the poor innocent men just oblige until the women are dead. Not at all sadistic men acting out power fantasies for the coom. Men aren't into violence against women at all that's why every 7 seconds a woman in the US experiences domestic violence and 3 women are killed by their Spouse A DAY. Also 80% of porn includes some sort of violence towards women. There are numerous studies on why porn is so violent and aggressive towards women physically and verbally. It's because men get off on it, retard.
I'm not going to try to break down the million ways people do or don't enjoy kink, but I think you're reaching here. You don't even have to read that article too closely to recognize that the statistic about 1 death/two weeks from strangulation is not or not solely about choking during sex. It's a "common" way of of death by domestic violence, not a common way of death during sex. The point of the article and the referenced organization is that an increasing number of men charged with strangling their wives to death are claiming a legal defense that "what happened was" bedroom play that accidentally went bad (or she asked and I obliged and then that happened), when in fact the strangulation happened as part of violence/abuse, not funky sex.

Retarded men always think this is an own even tho it's been proven many times that those statistics are high because of previous male partners that these women had before they decided to exclusively date women (no shit that women who experience DV stop wanting anything to do with men anymore) and not because women beat each other so much.
Yes - my recollection is that the statistics I've seen are based on a question like, "have you ever experienced domestic violence," not "have you ever experienced domestic violence by another woman?". So the statistic is often cited for a question not asked. Because people can't fucking be bothered to read or think.

Again, what the fuck are you even complaining about? You are acting like this is the Man-Hate thread. That sort of undermines your whole "it's just one thread" thing, when apparently you don't want to hear a word from us in this thread either.
Was her point not that there is just one thread where mods can toss a male commenter on that basis (and therefore that women can critique men without having to be inundated by a horde of low-effort men derailing the comment into "women are stupid sluts with no accountability and no value")?

No, I expect exactly the sort of thing that happened, because that's how you deal with conflict amongst yourselves. You reserve the chimp events for when moids say things you don't agree with. That's what makes the moral indignation unimpressive.
Right. Because the point is having women's input. And yes, even when a woman disagrees in that thread, there's generally not a chimp-out. Criticism, lack of interaction, and disagreement sometimes, but maybe, despite the hydra stereotype, the women in that thread don't consider 70 repetitive comments necessary and instead of getting caught up in stomping some differing opinion among women, they are able just to move the fuck on. This is somehow a bad thing?

If they do, that's called assault. If a woman wants to, she can press charges for sexual assault for that and the man WILL get fucked by the pigs for it, and she should. That is reality. Whether she does or not is the woman's choice. You cannot legally just grab a woman by the throat and choke her just because you coomer fantasy tells you to. If you do, you deserve whatever comes to you.
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Yes, that would be wrong, regardless of the sex of anyone involved, duh.
I agree. I'm talking about what inspires them to do it.
This is somehow a bad thing?
That's not the point. The point is, which is the real position? The self-righteous moral indignation, or the civil back and forth dialogue? I think it's intellectually dishonest to show the former to the world while doing the latter among friends. Obviously many people do it anyway. My point is, don't expect me to take your sanctimony seriously when I have a window into your less saintly discussions.

Really, consider abstaining from condescending to people about morality in a place like this to begin with. Yes I know the men do it here too. I don't really like them either.
 
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Ketamine is a drug for faggots, same with cocaine.


I only use drug for working men that touch grass.
 
Noooooooooo
That can't be.
The author of Mein Kampf: Moid Hatred is reaching?
Tell me it ain't so!!!
To be fair, she's not the only one who went along that path. Even itt people argued about it as though the article was about people dying during sex play.
That's not the point. The point is, which is the real position? The self-righteous moral indignation, or the civil back and forth dialogue? I think it's intellectually dishonest to show the former to the world while doing the latter among friends. Obviously many people do it anyway. My point is, don't expect me to take your sanctimony seriously when I have a window into your less saintly discussions.
It is helpful to clip enough of a comment to make clear what you're talking about. Just a suggestion, but I hope you take it.

You had originally said
that's how you deal with conflict amongst yourselves. You reserve the chimp events for when moids say things you don't agree with. That's what makes the moral indignation unimpressive.
What I said:
the point is having women's input. And yes, even when a woman disagrees in that thread, there's generally not a chimp-out. Criticism, lack of interaction, and disagreement sometimes, but maybe, despite the hydra stereotype, the women in that thread don't consider 70 repetitive comments necessary and instead of getting caught up in stomping some differing opinion among women, they are able just to move the fuck on. This is somehow a bad thing?
Now you've said:
That's not the point. The point is, which is the real position? The self-righteous moral indignation, or the civil back and forth dialogue? I think it's intellectually dishonest to show the former to the world while doing the latter among friends. Obviously many people do it anyway. My point is, don't expect me to take your sanctimony seriously when I have a window into your less saintly discussions.

My response: I have no fucking idea what you are on about. The man-hate thread is on view "to the world," not "among friends."

And EYE was merely describing my perception of how the commenters in that thread tend to respond to women who comment with non-hating or nuanced points on some topic or other.

You seem to be searching for some larger point. What "sanctimony" of mine (? Or did you mean women/ kiwi women/ kiwi women who have ever posted in that thread/ kiwi women who regularly post in that thread?) are you referring to?
Really, consider abstaining from condescending to people about morality in a place like this to begin with. Yes I know the men do it here too. I don't really like them either.
Again, the comment of mine you quoted was specifically about my perception of how non-hating comments in the man-hate thread tend to be responded to. Where is the moral condescension in that?
 
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