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I'm a Calvinist btw; you can believe whatever you want and God will sort us all out in the end.
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I have heard this accusation a lot. It always gives me pause because the tradcath epithet seems so nebulous. What exactly do you mean by it?
I don’t think it’s a winning argument in any case. The smug Catholics converts who have retarded arguments about “muh Church is better than ur church and ur goin 2 hell” on facebook are having the arguments with smug Baptists and smug Calvinists.
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They self identified as Tradcath, as in they literally called themselves that.
I don’t know what a Tradcath is supposed to be, because I’ve never met two that shared a consistent set of beliefs.
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Originally it meant Catholics who preferred the pre-Vatican II Latin Mass, breviary, devotions and liturgical calendar. In terms of moral issues, there should be no differences between them and other Catholics if they follow the teachings of the Church. Of course, that spans the gambit from completely orthodox groups such as the FSSP to hardcore sedevacantists like the CMRI.
This is why there is such an enormous variation in their beliefs. As well as the fact many people pretending to be traditional Catholics online don't actually have the catechesis behind their alleged faith and come up with strange beliefs of their own as a result.
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Out of all the Christian sects, frankly, I find Calvinism by far the most liberating. I mean, if you're damned no matter what you do, you're free to do anything. That's why I tell people trying to evangelize to me that I'm already set aside for destruction for the glory of God and who are they to tell me otherwise?
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Catholicism is vile and Satanic.
I'm a classical liberal in the American Revolution mold. I've wandered all over the Right but ultimately came back my roots because that is what the world seems to reward. I see no historical basis for believing the Whore of Babylon's claim to authority, their theology is laughable and often disgusting (these people invented purgatory to pimp guilt-out-of-punishment-free tickets), their Church frequently made a mockery of Christian morality through its horrific acts (especially directed against other Christians who merely disagreed with them), and in general everything about it seems to run contrary to the spirit of the New Testament and of Jesus' life. Take orders from some faggot in robes on a throne in a palace. Pray to other flawed humans because Almighty God is too busy, this omnipotent, omniscient omnibenevolent entity has secretaries. Mumble repetitive canned prayers and worship off of a script (just like Jesus told you not to). To take punishment from a priest and call him "father" as though the priest is God and the punishment is his to give!
Did you know that Charles I, who tried to restore Popery to the Church of England, banned extemporaneous prayer? As in, prayer that doesn't come out of a book. As in, the private conversation of someone with their God.
I can't prove on any theological or logical basis that a true religion must have good fruits, but I have something better, which is common sense. We may not be able to expect that a religion will bear fruit for a person in their worldly life, but when a religion is correct and its morals and spirit are sound, then you can very reasonably expect it to bear fruit at a society-wide level, because even if the individual's religion cannot be guaranteed to bear fruit for them, it can for those around them, and if most people adhere to it, then their interactions will bless the whole community.
It was the Protestant world, and really that means the Calvinist and Anabaptist world, that made the modern world. It was the Protestant world that created the Industrial Revolution and capitalism, so that the average person doesn't die at 35 and can spend their life doing more than endlessly toiling as a half-slave to live from day to day in a hovel eating nothing but bread. It was the Protestant world that revived republicanism so that there could be some sort of constraint on the ability of elites (faggoted, parasitical noblemen) to run roughshod over everyone else. And though it took a while for Protestantism to grow into this - it took a world war's worth of blood spilled to win their right to live unmolested - it ultimately was them that accepted that not every person may think or worship in the same way and that it is evil to force uniformity on everyone.
It is Protestant America that genuine religious sentiment is preserved in, the last line of it in the First World. It's Protestant America, the Netherlands and Britain where revolution went hand-in-hand with faith. And anywhere Catholic Third Worlders have finally been offered a choice, they have dropped Catholicism like a bad habit. It spread through war and terror. Evangelicalism/Pentecostalism spread like wildfire in Latin America, Africa and Asia on the basis of persuasion and its own powerful works.
And the more Catholics (Irish and Italians particularly) and Jews America let in, the more the country got shit up.
There is a reason that the world crawled along, a grueling desperate place, until a spark lit fire in Northwestern Europe, and that spark came along in a world made by the Kirk and the Kerk. There is a fact that this world has its own will and its purpose. God laid down the laws of nature, put the machinery of it all into motion with a vision in mind. And it extends as much to social order as to what we usually call "nature." Human society is a part of nature. And it has been the desire of evil men and the fools they con to suppress that, make themselves gods, that has been the cause of all the world's misery from the days of Adam and Eve. People that would try to subject everyone to their own vision, and God will always hang them for it, but with the rope that they provide. The consequences of their own ill-thought actions.
Spontaneous order, and decentralization. This is how God makes himself felt, and I've come to realize that this goes in all things. The economic cannot be separated from the political. The political cannot be separated from the religious/ideological substrate. Capitalism, republicanism and Protestantism may not be the end goal. May not be the finest systems or set of systems. But I know, with absolute conviction, that it is as close as anyone has ever come to figuring it out, and that is why the countries that adopted it - Netherlands, Britain, America, Switzerland - flourished, expanded, became the finest places on Earth.
Before my hatred of Catholicism grew into what it has, back when I merely disapproved it but could still entertain it like another Christian denomination, I went to a Mass once. It was a historical cathedral, very fine decoration. I was struck by how wrong it was. That there was no spirit of God in that building. I will not say that it's true for the other people there, because I'm not so arrogant as to believe God doesn't speak to everyone, on their terms, to the extent that he can. But I could just feel in my bones that it was a bad place in a way I have never felt in any other denomination.
I believe it is Satanic because I believe Satan works mostly by appealing to our better natures. I think CS Lewis had an argument about sin that was similar, that it is always a distortion of something that in its intended purpose is good and the greater the good the greater the potential for evil when it is warped. What better tool could the Devil create to cause disruption than an anti-Church? To steal Christianity itself and wear it as his skin. Distract people with bullshit like saints and the weird Virgin Mary cultism. Distract people from normal family life with bizarre, antisocial monastic orders. Disgrace the name of Christianity in its bloody purges. Collect riches to itself and build a great worldly power like Caesar, while telling its people that this world does not matter.
And there is no spirit of liberty in it at all. It has always, will always be the faith of despots, reactionary, Communist (liberation theology in Latin America).
I hate it from the bottom of my heart.
I'm a classical liberal in the American Revolution mold. I've wandered all over the Right but ultimately came back my roots because that is what the world seems to reward. I see no historical basis for believing the Whore of Babylon's claim to authority, their theology is laughable and often disgusting (these people invented purgatory to pimp guilt-out-of-punishment-free tickets), their Church frequently made a mockery of Christian morality through its horrific acts (especially directed against other Christians who merely disagreed with them), and in general everything about it seems to run contrary to the spirit of the New Testament and of Jesus' life. Take orders from some faggot in robes on a throne in a palace. Pray to other flawed humans because Almighty God is too busy, this omnipotent, omniscient omnibenevolent entity has secretaries. Mumble repetitive canned prayers and worship off of a script (just like Jesus told you not to). To take punishment from a priest and call him "father" as though the priest is God and the punishment is his to give!
Did you know that Charles I, who tried to restore Popery to the Church of England, banned extemporaneous prayer? As in, prayer that doesn't come out of a book. As in, the private conversation of someone with their God.
I can't prove on any theological or logical basis that a true religion must have good fruits, but I have something better, which is common sense. We may not be able to expect that a religion will bear fruit for a person in their worldly life, but when a religion is correct and its morals and spirit are sound, then you can very reasonably expect it to bear fruit at a society-wide level, because even if the individual's religion cannot be guaranteed to bear fruit for them, it can for those around them, and if most people adhere to it, then their interactions will bless the whole community.
It was the Protestant world, and really that means the Calvinist and Anabaptist world, that made the modern world. It was the Protestant world that created the Industrial Revolution and capitalism, so that the average person doesn't die at 35 and can spend their life doing more than endlessly toiling as a half-slave to live from day to day in a hovel eating nothing but bread. It was the Protestant world that revived republicanism so that there could be some sort of constraint on the ability of elites (faggoted, parasitical noblemen) to run roughshod over everyone else. And though it took a while for Protestantism to grow into this - it took a world war's worth of blood spilled to win their right to live unmolested - it ultimately was them that accepted that not every person may think or worship in the same way and that it is evil to force uniformity on everyone.
It is Protestant America that genuine religious sentiment is preserved in, the last line of it in the First World. It's Protestant America, the Netherlands and Britain where revolution went hand-in-hand with faith. And anywhere Catholic Third Worlders have finally been offered a choice, they have dropped Catholicism like a bad habit. It spread through war and terror. Evangelicalism/Pentecostalism spread like wildfire in Latin America, Africa and Asia on the basis of persuasion and its own powerful works.
And the more Catholics (Irish and Italians particularly) and Jews America let in, the more the country got shit up.
There is a reason that the world crawled along, a grueling desperate place, until a spark lit fire in Northwestern Europe, and that spark came along in a world made by the Kirk and the Kerk. There is a fact that this world has its own will and its purpose. God laid down the laws of nature, put the machinery of it all into motion with a vision in mind. And it extends as much to social order as to what we usually call "nature." Human society is a part of nature. And it has been the desire of evil men and the fools they con to suppress that, make themselves gods, that has been the cause of all the world's misery from the days of Adam and Eve. People that would try to subject everyone to their own vision, and God will always hang them for it, but with the rope that they provide. The consequences of their own ill-thought actions.
Spontaneous order, and decentralization. This is how God makes himself felt, and I've come to realize that this goes in all things. The economic cannot be separated from the political. The political cannot be separated from the religious/ideological substrate. Capitalism, republicanism and Protestantism may not be the end goal. May not be the finest systems or set of systems. But I know, with absolute conviction, that it is as close as anyone has ever come to figuring it out, and that is why the countries that adopted it - Netherlands, Britain, America, Switzerland - flourished, expanded, became the finest places on Earth.
Before my hatred of Catholicism grew into what it has, back when I merely disapproved it but could still entertain it like another Christian denomination, I went to a Mass once. It was a historical cathedral, very fine decoration. I was struck by how wrong it was. That there was no spirit of God in that building. I will not say that it's true for the other people there, because I'm not so arrogant as to believe God doesn't speak to everyone, on their terms, to the extent that he can. But I could just feel in my bones that it was a bad place in a way I have never felt in any other denomination.
I believe it is Satanic because I believe Satan works mostly by appealing to our better natures. I think CS Lewis had an argument about sin that was similar, that it is always a distortion of something that in its intended purpose is good and the greater the good the greater the potential for evil when it is warped. What better tool could the Devil create to cause disruption than an anti-Church? To steal Christianity itself and wear it as his skin. Distract people with bullshit like saints and the weird Virgin Mary cultism. Distract people from normal family life with bizarre, antisocial monastic orders. Disgrace the name of Christianity in its bloody purges. Collect riches to itself and build a great worldly power like Caesar, while telling its people that this world does not matter.
And there is no spirit of liberty in it at all. It has always, will always be the faith of despots, reactionary, Communist (liberation theology in Latin America).
I hate it from the bottom of my heart.
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I will say this, one aspect of Catholic social thought I am open to is distributism, because I realized that it is perhaps the closest thing to Jefferson's views. The capitalist system has a couple useful features that make it suitable for running a complex civilization:
1) Resolves the economic calculation problem through price signals
2) Superior use of incentives and personal responsibility to reward socially productive behavior
3) Competition is important in getting #1 and #2
It's a decentralized and undesigned information system. But its character can change dramatically depending on the specifics, distribution of property and rights, rules of the game, stuff like that.
Something that bothers me very much is the way that capitalism seems to inevitably warp into corporatism, capitalist core but heavily subverted by regulation written up with current elite's interests in mind. And this is where Thomas Jefferson seemed to be the most thoughtful of the Founding Fathers, both because he realized (unlike, say, Hamilton and Washington) that this is very bad and also because he appreciated that income inequality and wage labor would subvert the very things that make capitalism useful. Jefferson wanted his yeomen farmers. Nowadays self-employment is unrealistic for most people, but smaller firm sizes (even at the expense of some productivity) is the closest equivalent.
The only other people that I've ever heard appreciate that idea are the distributists, and they're mostly Catholics. But naturally, being C*tholics, they didn't seem to have any self-awareness that their values were in direct contradiction to their own mega-mega-Church.
Both, like I said, is a strawman, but I have come to suspect the Protestant view is a little more accurate, for a bunch of little reasons. One common notion among Protestants, don't know that it has any theological basis but I'm talking folk religion, is that God only values sincerity and living a life that is inconsistent with what is expected of a Christian betrays that the conversion is not sincere.
Something that struck me was what I read in Albion's Seed (about the colonial cultures of America) about attitudes towards death. There's four cultures in question, Episcopalian South, Anabaptist Middle, Calvinist New England and Presbyterian Scots-Irish Appalachians. The Southerners, Appalachians and Pennsylvanians all had a very accepting view of death. Now, the Southerners and Appalachians had a view that was more of a reckless disregard for life, which is seen in rednecks up to this day. Sort of a view that life is cheap and unpredictable and people process the fear-of-death stress by suppressing it and living quickly and hedonistically. And the Pennsylvanians had more of a healthy acceptance of death, a great equanimity about it. I imagine them like those good old people who lived good lives, are at peace with themselves and so are at peace with the idea of dying.
But the Puritans were a different stripe. They were obsessed with death, doing things like dragging small children out to meditate at gravestones and leaving behind a huge body of writing neurotically worrying over whether they were elect or not and whether they were behaving themselves properly. For a people who supposedly believed that none of this was within their hands, they had an extreme amount of stress.
To me that suggests that they just knew, in their hearts, that unconditional election was bullshit.
1) Resolves the economic calculation problem through price signals
2) Superior use of incentives and personal responsibility to reward socially productive behavior
3) Competition is important in getting #1 and #2
It's a decentralized and undesigned information system. But its character can change dramatically depending on the specifics, distribution of property and rights, rules of the game, stuff like that.
Something that bothers me very much is the way that capitalism seems to inevitably warp into corporatism, capitalist core but heavily subverted by regulation written up with current elite's interests in mind. And this is where Thomas Jefferson seemed to be the most thoughtful of the Founding Fathers, both because he realized (unlike, say, Hamilton and Washington) that this is very bad and also because he appreciated that income inequality and wage labor would subvert the very things that make capitalism useful. Jefferson wanted his yeomen farmers. Nowadays self-employment is unrealistic for most people, but smaller firm sizes (even at the expense of some productivity) is the closest equivalent.
The only other people that I've ever heard appreciate that idea are the distributists, and they're mostly Catholics. But naturally, being C*tholics, they didn't seem to have any self-awareness that their values were in direct contradiction to their own mega-mega-Church.
You would think that, but I've seen some evidence that Catholics are less moral people, which is how old-fashioned Protestants around here tend to see them. Basically, the Catholic strawman of Protestantism is what you described. The Protestant strawman of Catholicism is that Catholics just buy their way, cheaply, out of any wrongdoing they do with empty prayers.
Both, like I said, is a strawman, but I have come to suspect the Protestant view is a little more accurate, for a bunch of little reasons. One common notion among Protestants, don't know that it has any theological basis but I'm talking folk religion, is that God only values sincerity and living a life that is inconsistent with what is expected of a Christian betrays that the conversion is not sincere.
Something that struck me was what I read in Albion's Seed (about the colonial cultures of America) about attitudes towards death. There's four cultures in question, Episcopalian South, Anabaptist Middle, Calvinist New England and Presbyterian Scots-Irish Appalachians. The Southerners, Appalachians and Pennsylvanians all had a very accepting view of death. Now, the Southerners and Appalachians had a view that was more of a reckless disregard for life, which is seen in rednecks up to this day. Sort of a view that life is cheap and unpredictable and people process the fear-of-death stress by suppressing it and living quickly and hedonistically. And the Pennsylvanians had more of a healthy acceptance of death, a great equanimity about it. I imagine them like those good old people who lived good lives, are at peace with themselves and so are at peace with the idea of dying.
But the Puritans were a different stripe. They were obsessed with death, doing things like dragging small children out to meditate at gravestones and leaving behind a huge body of writing neurotically worrying over whether they were elect or not and whether they were behaving themselves properly. For a people who supposedly believed that none of this was within their hands, they had an extreme amount of stress.
To me that suggests that they just knew, in their hearts, that unconditional election was bullshit.
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Normally, I would assume this was a joke, but I’ve seen this same sentiment dozens of times with Crusader LARPers.
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No, that's actual Irish politics. To be more on point, Northern Irish politics. It's a mix between a joke and a serious statement.
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God put blacks on this earth to be enslaved by the white man it is written in the good book you must read
William Dudley Pelley
slaves obey your earthly masters
Catholics will never get that slavery is perfectly justified in the good book and will insist that blacks are equal to the white man if God wanted blacks to be equal to the white man he would have made them equal to the white men.
Traditional Catholics were angry that America didn't pollute its blood with the blood of the ***** or try to civilize the ***** we knew that the negroe's place is in the field picking cotton because it is on its work and it keeps the nigro from sitting in the eyes of God and if he's a good slave to his master he will be rewarded in the next life
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For some reason I get spammed Catholic content on social media. I don’t know why, because I don’t really even interact with it.
I really hate how almost all of it is just attacks on Protestants/Orthodox groups and then shit like this:
They spend all day dishing it out, but they can’t take it. Should’ve taken your own advice and not picked fights against other Christians for no reason.
I really hate how almost all of it is just attacks on Protestants/Orthodox groups and then shit like this:
They spend all day dishing it out, but they can’t take it. Should’ve taken your own advice and not picked fights against other Christians for no reason.
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Gonna have to wait long for that, Null permabanned Best Girl.
On topic: I am baptized catholic, my italian side of the family is filthy papists, german side is protestant and very active in church work. I consider myself protestant, i found my faith in my late 20's, sola fide, sola scriptorum. I've seen too many catholics behaving like animals and then sitting at church on sundays, getting absolved of all their sins by the priest (heathen practice, only one Man can absolve you of your sins) just to continue their behaviour afterwards, repeat ad infinitum. Could have a lot to do with them being italians and not just simply catholics. I don't hate them, really, as long as they accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. They definitely are too big on the idolatry, i like the Saints and i like Mary but they shouldn't take the same place as Jesus does, it's sacrilegious in nature. Go to any sardinian home and you find more pictures of Padre Pio (who is, by virtue of me being a mutt, my favourite saint) than crosses on the wall.
I give the catholics that they know how to put on a good show regarding service (mass in latin just has a better ring to it) and i dig the aesthetic, i visited many catholic churches both in my country and all over Europe and some are simply stunning. Protestant churches almost uniformly look like shit and the last place God would reside in.
100% signed, Francisco is the worst pope in the history of the church. They really need to bring a man of Karol's calibre back to save their steadily dwindling numbers.
While i know that shit exists i haven't seen it IRL before. I am much more concerned with Francisco's views and propagating of "progressive" values, especially regarding homo filth. And the huge numbers of catholics who still take his word as gospel.
Elucidate me, was there ever made a concentrated effort to convert your abbo brethren to Christianity?
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Of course there was. About half of us are good, God-fearing Roman Catholics, and then the other half follow some kind of primitive, tribal dirt-worshipping made-up joke faith like Anglican or Lutheran or whatever.
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This reminds me of Americans with a last name like DeLucca or Kowalski sending money to the IRA when their relatives were last in Ireland 150 years ago.
Honestly any time Americans insert themselves into Old World grievances it's just embarrassing. We all left for a reason.
Never seen much of a difference myself, but it depends a lot more in my experience on the role of the church in the community. If it's a big Catholic area you get a lot of cultural/cafeteria Catholics who stick to it for those reasons but don't really embrace the faith. A mission church out in rural Kansas where they're a tiny minority will be a whole different story.
Baptists have always had strong faith in my experience, there's strong mutual dislike to put it lightly in some places but these days that's not too common. Really that was driven more by other factors though, Baptists and Catholics coexisted perfectly fine in the South before the Civil War.
The South was really a more tolerant and open-minded place compared to the North on a lot of issues.
This lasted a long time after the colonial period as well, I know exactly what the author is describing. My family's from eastern PA.
Just this weekend I was talking with my dad about a project he was doing on their house and he just goes "when me and your mom are dead it'll have a brand new roof". No euphemisms, no emphasis, just off-hand. Same thing when someone dies, it was just their time or not.
Just very casual because you'll see them again someday, there isn't that Puritan-style fear of damnation or anything. The rain falls on the good and the bad.
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https://archive.org/details/liber-gomorrhianus - This lovely work, with a title ending in "anus", demonstrates that the Catholic institution can produce things of value. This book was completed just as the East and West split. I'm not posting this to be contrarian; there is still some good in the Roman organization, but it is scarce.
Eschatologically, the Beast and the Whore of Babylon hate each other. As the Whore appears to be what this forum would consider "Jewish", it stands to reason that the Beast will look something like the Vatican. Perhaps the Vatican fully folds into the Whore, though, and the Beast ends up looking more like the kinds of Russian institutions recently criminalized in the Ukraine. But it's worth considering, presupposing you're not amillennial.
As a scriptural Christian, my big objection to the Catholic religion is that it teaches a false gospel and is consequently accursed. Instead of "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me [ie. Jesus] has eternal life", there is now the flowchart of Catholic salvation. "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." The gospel, the good news, is that because of Christ's sacrifice, we can accept eternal life as a gift from God simply by believing on the finished work of His Son.
Eschatologically, the Beast and the Whore of Babylon hate each other. As the Whore appears to be what this forum would consider "Jewish", it stands to reason that the Beast will look something like the Vatican. Perhaps the Vatican fully folds into the Whore, though, and the Beast ends up looking more like the kinds of Russian institutions recently criminalized in the Ukraine. But it's worth considering, presupposing you're not amillennial.
As a scriptural Christian, my big objection to the Catholic religion is that it teaches a false gospel and is consequently accursed. Instead of "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me [ie. Jesus] has eternal life", there is now the flowchart of Catholic salvation. "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." The gospel, the good news, is that because of Christ's sacrifice, we can accept eternal life as a gift from God simply by believing on the finished work of His Son.
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She wasn't banned when I posted that but... Man. I simultaneously want her back but also I want her to burn in hell for being a bit of a Portable Document File, or at least someone who has no issues normalizing it.
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News to me, i quite liked her when she wasn't in full "Kill them crackaz babies!" Mode.
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The Schism between East and West has led to immeasurable damage to the Church at large, which eventually culminated in the abject tragedy that has been Protestantism and the eventual formation of completely backwards sects like Calvinism.
And all of this happened because the Pope at the time decided he was better than the other patriarchs.
While I lament the end result of the schism, I'm not going to preach hatred because that is simply not of Christ, and if you have any hatred within you for any one of your brothers for any reason, you need to crush it and replace it with genuine prayer that the Lord grant your brother mercy; not out of spite or anger but out of Love and care. I cannot honestly call myself a Christian until I am able to do this, and this should be the case for anyone who honestly and truly wishes to follow Christ.
And all of this happened because the Pope at the time decided he was better than the other patriarchs.
While I lament the end result of the schism, I'm not going to preach hatred because that is simply not of Christ, and if you have any hatred within you for any one of your brothers for any reason, you need to crush it and replace it with genuine prayer that the Lord grant your brother mercy; not out of spite or anger but out of Love and care. I cannot honestly call myself a Christian until I am able to do this, and this should be the case for anyone who honestly and truly wishes to follow Christ.
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You can see the roots of it in the boundaries of the patriarchates themselves. Rome's was gigantic, bigger than all of the others combined and when new areas were evangelized, they were usually under Roman control.
Even without any theological or canon law considerations, eventually that one was going to get so powerful it'd be able to dominate the others (or at least claim to). I'm not sure why there wasn't an additional patriarchate established in Spain to divide Rome in two given Compostela's direct connection to the apostle St. James.
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Well, she was always weird about young boys, but the stuff she posted in the BPgoonergate scandal definitely crossed a lot of lines. IDK if she posted any actual pictures or drawings but I wouldn't be surprised if she is even more gross in private. Come to think of it, a lot of users from BP got implicated. but that's off-topic so if you want more deets I suggest visiting the main thread.