Official Space Station 13 Server

[HippieCrackUser]

Day five. Yesterday while playing "Goon Station" on my "computer" from ""CHINA"", I discovered what could only be the true truth. The "Admin" proceeded to ask me why I was not "transgender" and then asked for a "Non Invasive Age Check" where he asked me to photo myself nude with my passport, and video evidence of me singing a song by a "LGBTQ" artist. He wanted to know because there were lizards and humans erping in the dorms, and he was hoping to root out the "Straights" and "Minors" before he joined in on the action. I complied with what he asked me to do, which he then made me create a discord and add him. He told me I was his "Sweetheart" and he wanted nothing but to "fuck up my code". At this point, I was creeped out, but I didn't want a "Ban". He's made me join a bunch of other "Discord Servers" filled with other "Big Figures" in the "SS13 Elite". I was confused why the icon for the "server" was the "TRANS FLAG", (but I was a hypocrite, as Daddy had already made Kitten use the trans flag as an icon). He took me on "TG" station, and I met very cool... I mean Kwaii friends there. I am going to join a discord sex call with ten of them later tonight! owo

 

[HippieCrackUser]

Day Six. Daddy Flourish has sold me Raveradbury. Time to become a TG station whore!

 

[Nuns with guns]

I quit Kiwistation before the final plunge but nothing was ever quite like it. Going onto some uber ERP station and pretending to be a senile robot is only funny for one three hour shift where nothing happens and nobody dies, and now the fucking intent system is gone from /tg/.

Maybe I'll try DS-13 again, it was pretty fun if unstable as fuck and pretty slow.

Where have you been playing? The ERP station comment hits hard, I've found myself dwelling weird servers too, looking for my fix.

 

[Antipathy]

Where have you been playing? The ERP station comment hits hard, I've found myself dwelling weird servers too, looking for my fix.

I haven't played in a while, I've been busier and don't have time for SS13 anymore. As for the turbo ERP station I was dicking around in trying to make a funny, it was Skyrat since that's the only thing still running.

You know a game's on its last legs when even the furries have mostly abandoned it.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

It does make me wonder what was the real start of this shit getting bad? I started on /tg/station nine years ago. I literally cannot pinpoint in my head where it got shit. I stopped playing for like a year in 2014, and again in 2017 and each time I came back it was like half the community had gone and there were more and more shrieking harridans in their place. Lizard Gang went away, Goof went away, clockcult got made, dropped, added, dropped, added then changed into a tower defence, dropped. Cult got reworked like eight fucking times. Traitors got nerfed, then everyone got nerfed to let the traitors drive the round.

I dunno if I changed, or what; but the game stopped being fun. Like, there wasn't any 'dynamismTM'. There was just the same rote repetition of tired gimmicks each and every round, everyone became a humourless stick in the mud, the admins stopped giving a fuck about things being funny, or enjoyable, or entertaining. Security stopped being 'whacky hijinks' and became 'Boot to everyone's head' or 'Do nothing or you get bwoinked for stopping an assistant delamming as a non antag' every round. Botany got nerfed, they added delays, and 'features' that were just more content gates to more content gates. Mining became its own entirely different game that completely fucked the station flow. Xenobiology got like six aborted changes and one that got halfway through being done before someone gave up.

It became style over substance. 'Look at the pretty sprites' while half the people playing didn't know how to do basic shit like hack doors, or upgrade technology. 'We changed tasers to shit e-guns, so combat flows better' while doing nothing about a single click with disarm still being essentially unbeatable since the action economy driven combat in SS13 favoured A) The attacker and B) Numbers. Science became a points based waiting game that you get screamed at for doing in the wrong order when before it at least had elements of being a puzzle for new players. Surgery and medicine and chemistry became this bizarre high RP style system which didn't fit with the speed of rounds, so they started hammering on rounds so they lasted in excess of an hour or two on Sybil and like four-five on bagel.

Troons fucking ruin everything man, like for real. Shrieking killjoys. Literally just wanted to shitpost with lizards in maint and make spessmen go sideways.

Fucking bullshit man. Fucking bullshit.

 

[Gravemind]

It does make me wonder what was the real start of this shit getting bad? I started on /tg/station nine years ago. I literally cannot pinpoint in my head where it got shit. I stopped playing for like a year in 2014, and again in 2017 and each time I came back it was like half the community had gone and there were more and more shrieking harridans in their place. Lizard Gang went away, Goof went away, clockcult got made, dropped, added, dropped, added then changed into a tower defence, dropped. Cult got reworked like eight fucking times. Traitors got nerfed, then everyone got nerfed to let the traitors drive the round.

I dunno if I changed, or what; but the game stopped being fun. Like, there wasn't any 'dynamismTM'. There was just the same rote repetition of tired gimmicks each and every round, everyone became a humourless stick in the mud, the admins stopped giving a fuck about things being funny, or enjoyable, or entertaining. Security stopped being 'whacky hijinks' and became 'Boot to everyone's head' or 'Do nothing or you get bwoinked for stopping an assistant delamming as a non antag' every round. Botany got nerfed, they added delays, and 'features' that were just more content gates to more content gates. Mining became its own entirely different game that completely fucked the station flow. Xenobiology got like six aborted changes and one that got halfway through being done before someone gave up.

It became style over substance. 'Look at the pretty sprites' while half the people playing didn't know how to do basic shit like hack doors, or upgrade technology. 'We changed tasers to shit e-guns, so combat flows better' while doing nothing about a single click with disarm still being essentially unbeatable since the action economy driven combat in SS13 favoured A) The attacker and B) Numbers. Science became a points based waiting game that you get screamed at for doing in the wrong order when before it at least had elements of being a puzzle for new players. Surgery and medicine and chemistry became this bizarre high RP style system which didn't fit with the speed of rounds, so they started hammering on rounds so they lasted in excess of an hour or two on Sybil and like four-five on bagel.

Troons fucking ruin everything man, like for real. Shrieking killjoys. Literally just wanted to shitpost with lizards in maint and make spessmen go sideways.
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Fucking bullshit man. Fucking bullshit.

Any gameplay changes can be placed solely on /tg/'s coders (like Orange in particular, at least for a while) and is not really caused by the incursion of the "normies" into the playing sphere. Coders are on their own bullshit and are often completely divorced from the way the servers and their communities are run.

A lot of people who ran servers and the revolving door of admins over the years were varying degrees of lolcow as well on top of that, and SS13 has always had a problem with having a generally spergy, sociopathic, and/or outright insane following, thus, it was always a matter of time before they started letting their true colors show.

There is, however, a valid point to be made about the fact that "normies" invaded the SS13 community. And while it's not a bad thing to have fresh blood pumped into this game, it has caused a sort of cascading effect where the people who run the longest lived servers on the Hub decided to adopt newfound "sensibilities" over the fact that all the newfags were outraged about being called "niggers" while they were being robusted and, for the sake of player retention, the hosts and admins decided slowly but surely that they were going to step to a tune more agreeable to the average normie and start curbing the offensive and unwelcoming behaviors that the community had cultivated (at least to a fault), not realizing that prohibition only ever increases demand for something, and, thus, driving the old guard to explore other servers. Unfortunately, nobody who manages their own servers seems to key into the fact that what you need is a balanced moderation, or else what you end up with is containment subcommunities that are inevitably going to implode on themselves, eg. Hippie Station, due to the old internet adage of "Any community that gets its kicks by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe they're in good company."

Kind of like Kiwi Farms itself in it's own way. As retarded as Null can be with some of his decisions, he does occasionally make some decently reasoned plays, like when he shut down registration for a period there to curb the influx of people wanting to come in as "political refugees" because they weren't allowed to say "nigger" and generally glow in the dark in other communities. It's about knowing people are gonna fling shit either way because you can't please everybody, doing what's best for the livelihood of the community in the long term, and working towards achieving whatever vision you have for that community. For a lot of hosts in current day SS13, the name of the game is player growth and retention, and not particularly geared towards actually fostering a sense of community.

Or, you know, just entertaining a power trip, because there's plenty of nepotism and abuse of power (and not the fun kind) among admins as well, but that's always been a thing more or less in the SS13 social hemisphere.

 

[Nuns with guns]

It does make me wonder what was the real start of this shit getting bad? I started on /tg/station nine years ago. I literally cannot pinpoint in my head where it got shit. I stopped playing for like a year in 2014, and again in 2017 and each time I came back it was like half the community had gone and there were more and more shrieking harridans in their place. Lizard Gang went away, Goof went away, clockcult got made, dropped, added, dropped, added then changed into a tower defence, dropped. Cult got reworked like eight fucking times. Traitors got nerfed, then everyone got nerfed to let the traitors drive the round.

I dunno if I changed, or what; but the game stopped being fun. Like, there wasn't any 'dynamismTM'. There was just the same rote repetition of tired gimmicks each and every round, everyone became a humourless stick in the mud, the admins stopped giving a fuck about things being funny, or enjoyable, or entertaining. Security stopped being 'whacky hijinks' and became 'Boot to everyone's head' or 'Do nothing or you get bwoinked for stopping an assistant delamming as a non antag' every round. Botany got nerfed, they added delays, and 'features' that were just more content gates to more content gates. Mining became its own entirely different game that completely fucked the station flow. Xenobiology got like six aborted changes and one that got halfway through being done before someone gave up.

It became style over substance. 'Look at the pretty sprites' while half the people playing didn't know how to do basic shit like hack doors, or upgrade technology. 'We changed tasers to shit e-guns, so combat flows better' while doing nothing about a single click with disarm still being essentially unbeatable since the action economy driven combat in SS13 favoured A) The attacker and B) Numbers. Science became a points based waiting game that you get screamed at for doing in the wrong order when before it at least had elements of being a puzzle for new players. Surgery and medicine and chemistry became this bizarre high RP style system which didn't fit with the speed of rounds, so they started hammering on rounds so they lasted in excess of an hour or two on Sybil and like four-five on bagel.

Troons fucking ruin everything man, like for real. Shrieking killjoys. Literally just wanted to shitpost with lizards in maint and make spessmen go sideways.
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Fucking bullshit man. Fucking bullshit.

I disagree with your medicine comment. I've spend too much time lately on servers that have avoided taking the tg route on meds (while also cucking medbay on their own way), playing old tg and higher rp servers with a much more complex medicine system, and it really baffles me how much tg cucked medbay. First they made surgery way too important and taking meds useless (nerfed a lot of shit, removed many useful meds and basically made everything have awful side effects), then they nerfed new surgery by making it slow as fuck and reducing it to organ decay. I don't think removing cloning was the problem, but the way the game handles damage now. You died and where found like two minutes too late? Well, boo fucking hoo, your heart has decayed and is unusable, and good luck trying to fix it with anything but with a slow as fuck (and with a high chance of failure, giving more damage, on vanilla tg) organ manipulation surgery. I know many oldfags enter medbay looking to be fixed and chimp out when you want to do surgery, but as slow as it is on tg now, it is sometimes faster and safer than taking a pill or a patch.

Chemistry is really useful, but it's so fucking cucked that assholes will just make meth/space lubes factories, and in some servers as MD you have no access to the lab itself, you have to rely on the choomist if he's got mercy on your soul and can stop doing drugs for a second to make something as simple as miner's salve and call it a day when he dumps it on the floor. I've spent way too much time autistically trying to improve medbay, sticking to any non shitter chemist I can find, and even then I get to fix a guy that in servers with more complex medical systems paradoxically would take way less time. Surgery should be a really last case scenario and with pain management, the fact that you don't even need to be asleep to do surgery on tg has made most rooms in medbay useless and even annoying, there's no reason to have anaesthetics on tg if they do fucking nothing, you baiscally have to race to fix and make more stasis beds because of the organ decay and redecorate everything because the layout is really impractical.

Fuck tg

 

[Johan Schmidt]

I disagree with your medicine comment. I've spend too much time lately on servers that have avoided taking the tg route on meds (while also cucking medbay on their own way), playing old tg and higher rp servers with a much more complex medicine system, and it really baffles me how much tg cucked medbay. First they made surgery way too important and taking meds useless (nerfed a lot of shit, removed many useful meds and basically made everything have awful side effects), then they nerfed new surgery by making it slow as fuck and reducing it to organ decay. I don't think removing cloning was the problem, but the way the game handles damage now. You died and where found like two minutes too late? Well, boo fucking hoo, your heart has decayed and is unusable, and good luck trying to fix it with anything but with a slow as fuck (and with a high chance of failure, giving more damage, on vanilla tg) organ manipulation surgery. I know many oldfags enter medbay looking to be fixed and chimp out when you want to do surgery, but as slow as it is on tg now, it is sometimes faster and safer than taking a pill or a patch.

Chemistry is really useful, but it's so fucking cucked that assholes will just make meth/space lubes factories, and in some servers as MD you have no access to the lab itself, you have to rely on the choomist if he's got mercy on your soul and can stop doing drugs for a second to make something as simple as miner's salve and call it a day when he dumps it on the floor. I've spent way too much time autistically trying to improve medbay, sticking to any non shitter chemist I can find, and even then I get to fix a guy that in servers with more complex medical systems paradoxically would take way less time. Surgery should be a really last case scenario and with pain management, the fact that you don't even need to be asleep to do surgery on tg has made most rooms in medbay useless and even annoying, there's no reason to have anaesthetics on tg if they do fucking nothing, you baiscally have to race to fix and make more stasis beds because of the organ decay and redecorate everything because the layout is really impractical.

Fuck tg

I'm confused as to what you disagree with then? you seem to be saying that the medical changes don't fit the playerbase, or the way the playerbase acts? That's what I'm saying. On a high RP server like Bay you get found pretty dammed fast if you're dying, and people do their jobs properly. /tg/ is a collection of autistic chimps flinging shit, so having an in depth medical system doesn't work. It just pisses everyone off.

 

[Nuns with guns]

I'm confused as to what you disagree with then? you seem to be saying that the medical changes don't fit the playerbase, or the way the playerbase acts? That's what I'm saying. On a high RP server like Bay you get found pretty dammed fast if you're dying, and people do their jobs properly. /tg/ is a collection of autistic chimps flinging shit, so having an in depth medical system doesn't work. It just pisses everyone off.

My original draft for the comment got accidentally deleted and I'm just autistically screeching. I meant to defend higher rp servers do medical great, I think baymed is beautiful. And the people in those servers are really great, too. Most people that play medical in tg are fucking weird, hostile, and think they're in Grey's anatomy or some shit, while neglecting their medical duties.

TGMC runs a dumbed down easier baymed system, I believe it could work with other tweaks in servers like tg.

Goon is the fucking opposite. It's a shitshow and medbay is a self serving place. Everyone just performs surgery to themselves, they abuse meds on their own and clone each other. I can see the appeal, but as a medfag I reeee when I don't get to do my job. It takes out all the fun.

Edit: also I think the new tg med was not made more complex (despite having more surgeries that baiscally follow the same steps), but rather plain retarded. It's hard to come back.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

My original draft for the comment got accidentally deleted and I'm just autistically screeching. I meant to defend higher rp servers do medical great, I think baymed is beautiful. And the people in those servers are really great, too. Most people that play medical in tg are fucking weird, hostile, and think they're in Grey's anatomy or some shit, while neglecting their medical duties.

TGMC runs a dumbed down easier baymed system, I believe it could work with other tweaks in servers like tg.

Goon is the fucking opposite. It's a shitshow and medbay is a self serving place. Everyone just performs surgery to themselves, they abuse meds on their own and clone each other. I can see the appeal, but as a medfag I reeee when I don't get to do my job. It takes out all the fun.

Edit: also I think the new tg med was not made more complex (despite having more surgeries that baiscally follow the same steps), but rather dumbed down. It's hard to come back.

New TG med is far more complex when compared to 2012 medical. 2012 medical fit the pace of the game much better. Also I miss cloning, if you think removing cloning was a good move then we're gonna disagree on literally everything. Cloning getting dunked was the crossing of the rubicon into shitsville for tg.

 

[NuII's Dad]

I had an admin on aurorastation get mad at me for doing multiple jobs on one character "George Sommer" over multiple rounds. So i made another named George Somner, Georgios Sommedov, George Summer, George Sonner, George Sonmer, Jorge Sommerlanca, Jorge Somnerlanca, Georg Von Sommer and George Sommerset. They all have the default bald body but sometimes i put moustaches on the spanish sounding names.

It's hilarious watching deadchat complain that they've ahelped about me job hopping multiple times and nothing ever happens.

 

[Gravemind]

I had an admin on aurorastation get mad at me for doing multiple jobs on one character "George Sommer" over multiple rounds. So i made another named George Somner, Georgios Sommedov, George Summer, George Sonner, George Sonmer, Jorge Sommerlanca, Jorge Somnerlanca, Georg Von Sommer and George Sommerset. They all have the default bald body but sometimes i put moustaches on the spanish sounding names.

It's hilarious watching deadchat complain that they've ahelped about me job hopping multiple times and nothing ever happens.

I recall Aurora being one of the gay HRP stations where they absolutely hate it if you try to "meta" by exercising your knowledge over the game's mechanics by doing different jobs outside of the role you signed up as for the round.

HRP is an environment that discourages being robust. It's why there's plenty of stories out there about murderboners being able to dunk on entire HRP servers because Sec can't keep up with someone who actually knows what they're doing.

 

[A-Z0-9]

Beestation is the only server I can tolerate playing on that has the closest resemblance to old /tg/ station. However, I have several reservations on said server, one of them being the lack of a +18 rule. There have been rumours floating around consisting of pedophilia - something that I will absolutely not tolerate playing with. In the event that the rumours are true (which they likely are) is there any other server(s) that emulate old /tg/ whilst not having child molesters?

 

[Gravemind]

Beestation is the only server I can tolerate playing on that has the closest resemblance to old /tg/ station. However, I have several reservations on said server, one of them being the lack of a +18 rule. There have been rumours floating around consisting of pedophilia - something that I will absolutely not tolerate playing with. In the event that the rumours are true (which they likely are) is there any other server(s) that emulate old /tg/ whilst not having child molesters?

Probably /vg/, but it's filled with grognards. Tread lightly.

 

[A-Z0-9]

Grognards?

Please tell me those aren't some horrific offspring of furries.

 

[Gravemind]

Grognards?

Please tell me those aren't some horrific offspring of furries.

The old guard that hates the new things for being new and different. Usually not prone to having much patience for newfags bringing in newfag shittery to their homes.

 

[A-Z0-9]

Ah, thanks. Seem easy enough to not piss off.

 

[Gravemind]

Ah, thanks. Seem easy enough to not piss off.

As long as you don't act like the average greytider or murderboner, it should be fine.

Just watch out for that Randolph P. Checkers guy.

 

[A-Z0-9]

Are munchkins fine, tho? I tend to powergame in any situation in which it looks like my opponent will grow an extra dick from the ego boost of defiling my corpse.

But thanks for the info.

 

[Shaka Brah]

/vg/ also has a really autistic codebase. You might like it or hate it, but the jobs are all really fiddly. Especially Science.