Culture ‘OK Boomer’ Marks the End of Friendly Generational Relations - "How do you do, fellow kids?"

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/style/ok-boomer.html

In a viral audio clip on TikTok, a white-haired man in a baseball cap and polo shirt declares, “The millennials and Generation Z have the Peter Pan syndrome, they don’t ever want to grow up.”

Thousands of teens have responded through remixed reaction videos and art projects with a simple phrase: “ok boomer.”

“Ok boomer” has become Generation Z’s endlessly repeated retort to the problem of older people who just don’t get it, a rallying cry for millions of fed up kids. Teenagers use it to reply to cringey YouTube videos, Donald Trump tweets, and basically any person over 30 who says something condescending about young people — and the issues that matter to them.

Teenagers have scrawled the message in their notebooks and carved it into at least one pumpkin. For senior picture day at one Virginia high school, a group of nine students used duct tape to plaster “ok boomer” across their chests.

The meme-to-merch cycle is nothing new, but unlike most novelty products, “ok boomer” merch is selling. Shannon O’Connor, 19, designed a T-shirt and hoodie with the phrase “ok boomer” written in the “thank you” style of a plastic shopping bag. She uploaded it to Bonfire, a site for selling custom apparel, with the tagline “Ok boomer have a terrible day.” After promoting the shirt on TikTok, she received more than $10,000 in orders.

“The older generations grew up with a certain mind-set, and we have a different perspective,” Ms. O’Connor said. “A lot of them don’t believe in climate change or don’t believe people can get jobs with dyed hair, and a lot of them are stubborn in that view. Teenagers just respond, ‘Ok, boomer.’ It’s like, we’ll prove you wrong, we’re still going to be successful because the world is changing.”

Ms. O’Connor is far from the only one cashing in. Hundreds of “ok boomer” products are for sale through on-demand shopping sites like Redbubble and Spreadshirt, where many young people are selling “ok boomer” phone cases, bedsheets, stickers, pins and more.

Nina Kasman, an 18-year-old college student selling “ok boomer" stickers, socks, shirts, leggings, posters, water bottles, notebooks and greeting cards, said that while older generations have always looked down on younger kids or talked about things “back in their day,” she and other teens believe older people are actively hurting young people. “Everybody in Gen Z is affected by the choices of the boomers, that they made and are still making,” she said. “Those choices are hurting us and our future. Everyone in my generation can relate to that experience and we’re all really frustrated by it.”

“Gen Z is going to be the first generation to have a lower quality of life than the generation before them,” said Joshua Citarella, 32, a researcher who studies online communities. Teenagers today find themselves, he said, with “three major crises all coming to a head at the Gen Z moment.”

“Essentials are more expensive than ever before, we pay 50 percent of our income to rent, no one has health insurance,” said Mr. Citarella. “Previous generations have left Generation Z with the short end of the stick. You see this on both the left, right, up down and sideways.” Mr. Citarella added: “The merch is proof of how much the sentiment resonates with people.”

Rising inequality, unaffordable college tuition, political polarization exacerbated by the internet, and the climate crisis all fuel anti-boomer sentiment.

And so Ms. Kasman and other teenagers selling merch say that monetizing the boomer backlash is their own little form of protest against a system they feel is rigged. “The reason we make the ‘ok boomer’ merch is because there’s not a lot that I can personally do to reduce the price of college, for example, which was much cheaper for older generations who then made it more expensive,” Ms. Kasman said. “There’s not much I can personally do to restore the environment, which was harmed due to corporate greed of older generations. There’s not much I can personally do to undo political corruption, or fix Congress so it’s not mostly old white men boomers who don’t represent the majority of generations.”

Ms. Kasman said she plans to use proceeds to pay for college. So do others.

“I’ll definitely use the money for my student loans, paying my rent. Stuff that will help me survive,” said Everett Solares, 19, who is selling a slew of rainbow “ok boomer” products. “I hadn’t seen any gay stuff for ‘ok boomer,’ so I just chose every product that I could find in case anyone wanted it,” she said.

Gavin Deschutter, 17, reimagines famous logos for companies like FedEx, Budweiser, Google, and KFC with the catch phrase, and has been selling t shirts and phone cases emblazoned with the message. He hasn’t made very much — “I sold a hoodie yesterday for $36,” he said — but his designs have been shared across meme pages on Instagram.

Every movement needs an anthem, and the undisputed boomer backlash hymn is a song written and produced by Jonathan Williams, a 20-year-old college student. Titled, inevitably, “ok boomer,” the song opens with: “It’s funny you think I respect your opinion, when your hairline looks that disrespectful.”

The chorus consists of Mr. Williams screaming “ok boomer” repeatedly into the mic. Peter Kuli, a 19-year-old college student, created a remix of the song, which has seen 4,000 TikToks made from the track. The two planned to split the revenue earned through streams of the song on Spotify.

“The song is aggressive and ridiculous, but I think it says a lot about Gen Z culture,” said Mr. Kuli. “I think because of the internet, people are finally feeling like they have a voice and an outlet to critique the generations who got us into this position.”

“Millennials and Gen Xers are on our side, but I think Gen Z is finally putting their feet in the ground and saying enough is enough,” he said.

Teens say “ok boomer" is the perfect response because it’s blasé but cutting. It’s the digital equivalent of an eye roll. And because boomers so frequently refer to younger generations as “snowflakes,” a few teenagers said, it’s particularly hilarious to watch them freak out about the phrase.

“If they do take it personally, it just further proves that they take everything we do as offensive. It’s just funnier,” said Saptarshi Biswas, 17.

“Instead of taking offense to them, you’re just like, ha-ha,” said Julitza Mitchell, 18.

In the end, boomer is just a state of mind. Mr. Williams said anyone can be a boomer — with the right attitude. “You don’t like change, you don’t understand new things especially related to technology, you don’t understand equality,” he said. “Being a boomer is just having that attitude, it can apply to whoever is bitter toward change.”

“We’re not taking a jab at boomers as a whole — we’re not going for their lives,” said Christopher Mezher, 18. “If it’s a jab at anyone it’s outdated political figures who try to run our lives.”

“You can keep talking,” Ms. Kasman said, as if to a boomer, “but we’re going to change the future.”

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These people will use 'boomer' as an insult, but then support Hillary Clinton, a 72-year-old hag. And now, it's being promoted by The New York Times, a publication only boomers read. Isn't it ironic?
 
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The bourgeoisoomers was all that popped into my head.

I gotta say, as someone born in 97 I don't feel like a Zoomer, or identify with any of the cues I see associated with them.
The problem with media trying to place generational gaps every 20-25 or so is increasingly harder to do anymore since what defines a generation is it's culture and the events that happen in that time. With the advent of mass media and even more so, the Internet, the evolution of culture trends and the reporting of events is in hyper drive now. I'm in my 30s, but I barely relate to the culture that those in their 20s were adolescent in due to how rapidly things change now even though they might only be 5-10 years younger then me.
Trying to encapsule a time by naming "generations" is getting more and more silly to attempt to do year after year as things ramp up more and more.
 
I don't think it can be stressed enough that these kids literally don't know what a boomer is. The only legit boomers they'd be dealing with is their grandparents, unless their parents were in their 40's-50's when they had them. It is kind of hard to believe how old gen X is getting though.


Trying to encapsule a time by naming "generations" is getting more and more silly to attempt to do year after year as things ramp up more and more.
I guess boomers think they're the last generation important enough to be given a name, but there's legitimate differences between kids who've always been on the internet vs gen x/millenials who actually had a childhood off the internet.
 
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Since "boomers" are the only ones paying taxes where are all the freebies these spoiled, entitled toddlers want going to come from if they continue to piss them off?
The average boomer is now of retirement age, which means the majority of them are welfare leeches. Social security and medicare account for 61% of all federal spending, so really gassing the boomers is a net gain for the productive parts of society.
 
The average boomer is now of retirement age, which means the majority of them are welfare leeches. Social security and medicare account for 61% of all federal spending, so really gassing the boomers is a net gain for the productive parts of society.
Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that the gender studies generations will never earn enough to pay any meaningful amount in tax.
 
They're probably thinking about the 30-year-old Boomer meme.

Even then, if you're 30, you're an early Millennial.
EDIT: broke up the post into bits for tl;dr

What Constitutes What Generation.

I've done some research on generations and what constitutes what generation. It's important to remember when talking about generations is that a lot of it is driven by marketing, since marketers need a rough rubric when trying to sell products to current age groups. Some things about old people are eternal, some are unique to the current crop of social security collectors. Same applies to young and middle aged people. Its always going to be an imperfect representation because you can't have a perfect encapsulation of something like a whole age bracket.

There is just a continuous coming-and-going of people on this Earth. We don't just shit out generations in chunks at discrete yearly timings like insects. The perception of when certain generation begin and end is always going to be fuzzy because its not definite when one generations ends and another beings. Its better to think in terms of "Peak Boomer" or "Peak Gen-X." I put "Peak Millenial" at 28-31 (haven't bothered to to the analysis for the other generations since that is the one that concerns me the most).

Fucking Boomers
The thing that really infuriates me with boomers is how unhelpful they are. To reveal some power levels, when I was in my early 20's I wanted to be a sailor. I went to the local union and the guy behind working there said to me "Kid, do I look like a fucking guidance counselour?" He did give me some brochures, but the general "fuck you and fuck off" attitude remained, and I just got a job in the tech industry, like so many damn dirty millenials who want a soft office job.

How Boomers Fail Young People
When they do give some advice it's so out of touch that its useless "just go in and give the manager a firm handshake" when most hiring is sorted by algorithmic HR systems. "Oh I see they are hiring at McDonalds, why don't you just apply there?" Not aware that they always have that same corporate sign up, so they can constantly feed their hiring and customer algorithm information. You want to apply only when you see the manger putting up signs in comic-sans font on the front door, because you are certain they absolutely do need people there. Hell the "shake the manager's hand" trick can work, I know some people that did get hired that way but only when the people applying knew the company was desperate for bodies to fill a new contract.

You would think they would be old enough to realize certain eternal principles that are as true when we were spear chuckers, and will be just as true when we are on Martian colonies. I'm in that peak millennial range, and I'm only just starting to realize them. I cannot tell you how much it infuriates me to see hawk and hem about something as meaningless as "Avacado Toast" as they sit smug on a social security and retirement funds.

I agree that the younger generations are Peter Panning, but they never ask why or seem to care, and would rather smuggly tell them off on their new fancy widget apps. I think people do give the boomers too hard of a time when it come to their past and present economic situation. Most of them came into their early adulthood during the stagflation of the 70s, the oil embargo crisis, and high interest rates which favored the old people of the time over the young (most elderly still had war bonds from WW2 and bonds from New Deal policies). A lot of boomer's retirement accounts were shredded by the '08 crash.

Okay Boomer
Wealth can be destroyed, but can be rebuilt better with the right mindset and knowledge. Its that wisdom and guidance they hoard. The epidemic of surrogate para-social father figures like Jordan Peterson is a symtome of this lack of guidance. "Ok boomer" is a great retort when all they have is a smug "haha sure told you stupid kids off" meme they probably heard on sports talk radio.
 
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Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that the gender studies generations will never earn enough to pay any meaningful amount in tax.
So in your mind the U.S. GDP drops to third world levels in 10 years, and social security goes bankrupt? That's some true clown world thinking there, friendo, but it's not very realistic. America is producing more petroleum engineers and anesthesiologists than ever, and unlike in the universities in the 70's, most colleges now try fairly hard to push their student body (and thus future alumnus base) into more productive careers. Besides, even gender studies majors have decent career prospects. Boomer run companies have somehow decided that they are perfect for HR, and so they can be found infesting almost any major corporation.
 
The article reads as a bit of a parody on the internet generation, where pseudo-ironic meme protests on social media rules the day. The more low effort per virtual high fives you can get the better.
 
Many get their generations wrong, older Millenials are actually approaching their 40s while young Millenials are still in their mid-20s, so e.g. a person being 25 this year and a person being 36 are actually both Millenials. The oldest Gen Xers are in their mid 50s. The oldest boomers are in their early 70s and boomers will still be around for quite a few decades and will also still be in the workforce for quite a while. Time flies. Also no, you can't really interpret it "another" way, so no, a e.g. 31 year old guy isn't a boomer nor will he ever be, as much as you would want him to. Just because people don't really understand how generations work it doesn't really change the flow of time. I think the word "boomer" just got it's own meaning wich has trancended the understanding of generations.

Regarding the article: Younger generation thinks older generation screwed everything up and are insufferable squares. Older generation thinks younger generations are good-for-nothings. Wow. It certainly has never been that way, ever. This is a new and shocking trend.
 
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Quoting this same story from another topic into this topic so that I can stay on topic. Now "topic" sounds funny. I hate you Memeanon.

There was another related article which already had a thread but this has been sitting on my newsfeed recently. Everything about this article is just wrong.
I'll say the same thing that came to mind when I saw that other thread: Aren't these the same people that would crucify someone for being ageist or really any kind of -ist?

Yes. Yes they are. They're exactly the same people.
 
Quoting this same story from another topic into this topic so that I can stay on topic. Now "topic" sounds funny. I hate you Memeanon.
I'll say the same thing that came to mind when I saw that other thread: Aren't these the same people that would crucify someone for being ageist or really any kind of -ist?

Yes. Yes they are. They're exactly the same people.
inb4 news about ok boomer becomes more widespread
 
I'll say the same thing that came to mind when I saw that other thread: Aren't these the same people that would crucify someone for being ageist or really any kind of -ist?

Age-ist is totally okay. Only being white or male is really a problem and if you're both you just troon out and claim to be a woman and are instantly okay again.
 
Reminder.

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Friendly generational relations? Did the writer of this article miss the Vietnam War era, where the baby boomer generation, back then called the "Me generation" literally fired back against their GI Gen era parents and smoked as much weed, protested on as many campuses, punched as many cops, and fucked as many people as they possibly could back then?
Friendly generational relations never existed.
 
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I don't blame the boomers, I blame their parents. They were bread by the WW1 generation hard enough to endure the depression and WW2. But they failed to carry the torch and instead birthed a bunch of losers that couldn't even hack Vietnam and it's been one more useless generation after the next. Of course zoomers are autistic trash, they were raised by millennials.

But it all started with the "greatest generation" that stormed the beaches of Normandy so their goblino great grandson could be put on hormone blockers at 5 and have his dick cut off at 9 all because they were too lazy to set the dogs on their hippie trash kids until they shaved and got a job and went to church.
 
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