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Maybe if Wu actually did factually grow up around guns, that would just show she's a very low information person who refuses to learn anything, even when around one of her favorite hobbies.

She talks about outlawing large capacity "clips" and immediately proves she has zero information about what she's trying to outlaw. She also throws out the infamous "assault rifle" term, all of which require a 6-14 month waiting period simply to buy one from another person, so I'm not sure who's committing crimes with guns they have to order a year in advance for their crimes, in addition to submitting for a very detailed background check by the ATF, and paying at least $7,000 for any modern working assault rifle, since the cut off for registration was 1986. It's only legal to own "assault rifles" that were registered 40 years ago.

Can you imagine people still being upset about some model of an "assault vehicles" with a dangerous "high capacity gas tank" that has a tendency to explode when you slam into a metal railing at 130 miles/hour? And even if we outlawed the new production of these cars in 1986, and they realized it'd probably be wrong to go to hundreds of thousands of people who had registered these guns, bought them when they were legal, paid taxes on them, and confiscate them because these "assault vehicles" were too dangerous when some dipshit decided to do something to end his own life with one.

That's basically the same argument. Anyone crying about "assault rifles" is too dumb to know they've banned new registration of them for over 40 years, people whining about them are crying about technology that's older than 40 years, and machines older than 40 years.

People like Wu have no problem with the mass confiscation of firearms. California is just about starting: "large capacity" magazines, meaning standard capacity for the majority of all guns, were outlawed in California years back, but people who had bought them legally weren't required to turn in their property they legally bought. They were "grandfathered" in and could no longer sell or transfer these magazines, but they could still own and use them.

Then, years later, California just ups and says "yeah, turn in all of those magazines you legally bought with your money you worked for, or if we catch you with it we'll throw you in jail. No we're not compensating you."

Does anyone here understand the connection between registration of firearms, and an eventual confiscation with this registration? Like what Connecticut did? They required all "assault weapons" (not even an assault rifle, go look up what this is on your own) be registered. Why? How is knowing who has what AR15 going to stop Joe from killing someone with it? But it'll sure be handy if Connecticut ever changes mere possession of "assault weapons" into a crime and demands everyone who registered turn them in, or face a SWAT raid.

People like Wu love confiscation, door to door searches, all in the name of stopping the evil salty rifles that are 50+ year old relics.

In 10 years, every single registered "assault rifle" will be older than 50 years old. That officially classifies them under US law as Curios and Relics, and would allow them (normally) to send them to people in the mail simply with a $10 Federal Firearms License, dubbed a Curio and Relic license. These people are really upset about Curios and Relics being in the hands of people who appreciate them, and are trying to confiscate them all.

The ATF is also the regulatory agency that tried to define a fucking shoelace as a "registered machine gun part" because you can simulate automatic fire if you tie a shoelace around the trigger and the bolt of a gun.


There were a few moments in time where you could have been breaking the law because the ATF decided you had two unregistered machine gun parts on your shoes. That's two counts. Each count earns you a $50,000 fine and 10 years in prison.

Think about how unprogressive these progressives are when they're trying to outlaw technology like shoelaces and 40+ year old machines.
 
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Maybe if Wu actually did factually grow up around guns, that would just show she's a very low information person who refuses to learn anything, even when around one of her favorite hobbies.

She talks about outlawing large capacity "clips" and immediately proves she has zero information about what she's trying to outlaw. She also throws out the infamous "assault rifle" term, all of which require a 6-14 month waiting period simply to buy one from another person, so I'm not sure who's committing crimes with guns they have to order a year in advance for their crimes, in addition to submitting for a very detailed background check by the ATF, and paying at least $7,000 for any modern working assault rifle, since the cut off for registration was 1986. It's only legal to own "assault rifles" that were registered 40 years ago.

Can you imagine people still being upset about some model of an "assault vehicles" with a dangerous "high capacity gas tank" that has a tendency to explode when you slam into a metal railing at 130 miles/hour? And even if we outlawed the new production of these cars in 1986, and they realized it'd probably be wrong to go to hundreds of thousands of people who had registered these guns, bought them when they were legal, paid taxes on them, and confiscate them because these "assault vehicles" were too dangerous when some dipshit decided to do something to end his own life with one.

That's basically the same argument. Anyone crying about "assault rifles" is too dumb to know they've banned new registration of them for over 40 years, people whining about them are crying about technology that's older than 40 years, and machines older than 40 years.

People like Wu have no problem with the mass confiscation of firearms. California is just about starting: "large capacity" magazines, meaning standard capacity for the majority of all guns, were outlawed in California years back, but people who had bought them legally weren't required to turn in their property they legally bought. They were "grandfathered" in and could no longer sell or transfer these magazines, but they could still own and use them.

Then, years later, California just ups and says "yeah, turn in all of those magazines you legally bought with your money you worked for, or if we catch you with it we'll throw you in jail. No we're not compensating you."

Does anyone here understand the connection between registration of firearms, and an eventual confiscation with this registration? Like what Connecticut did? They required all "assault weapons" (not even an assault rifle, go look up what this is on your own) be registered. Why? How is knowing who has what AR15 going to stop Joe from killing someone with it? But it'll sure be handy if Connecticut ever changes mere possession of "assault weapons" into a crime and demands everyone who registered turn them in, or face a SWAT raid.

People like Wu love confiscation, door to door searches, all in the name of stopping the evil salty rifles that are 50+ year old relics.

In 10 years, every single registered "assault rifle" will be older than 50 years old. That officially classifies them under US law as Curios and Relics, and would allow them (normally) to send them to people in the mail simply with a $10 Federal Firearms License, dubbed a Curio and Relic license. These people are really upset about Curios and Relics being in the hands of people who appreciate them, and are trying to confiscate them all.

The ATF is also the regulatory agency that tried to define a fucking shoelace as a "registered machine gun part" because you can simulate automatic fire if you tie a shoelace around the trigger and the bolt of a gun.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=43P8PHKTny0
There were a few moments in time where you could have been breaking the law because the ATF decided you had two unregistered machine gun parts on your shoes. That's two counts. Each count earns you a $50,000 fine and 10 years in prison.

Think about how unprogressive these progressives are when they're trying to outlaw technology like shoelaces and 50+ year old designs.
I'm split between :autism: and :semperfi:.
 
A basic review of crime statistics also show that even gun crimes are rarely committed with anything as expensive and exotic to get your hands on as an "assault rifle". This is, and has always been, an attempt to virtue signal by treating something that isn't even a statistical blip as a major problem that requires an unconditional ban and is always sold with a naked appeal to emotions, equating resistance to barbarism. Gun control is the original SJW movement. Ban it because I find it distasteful, facts are irrelevant, it's self-obvious that no moral person could ever disagree....
 
major problem that requires an unconditional ban and is always sold with a naked appeal to emotions


I can't believe they didn't pass another Assault Weapons Ban after he cried about Columbine, the mass shooting that happened under the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, and cried about the college kids shot down by Cho's handguns which he doesn't want to regulate at all.

Don't let any gun control advocates let you hear about how the most deadly school shooting in the USA was done by handguns or they might slip up and let you hear about their next plan to ban handguns. The Brady Campaign, the hugest gun control lobby group in the USA, used to be called the National Council to Control Handguns. They switched their name after they found out their real goal isn't that popular.
 
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Maybe if Wu actually did factually grow up around guns, that would just show she's a very low information person who refuses to learn anything, even when around one of her favorite hobbies.

She talks about outlawing large capacity "clips" and immediately proves she has zero information about what she's trying to outlaw. She also throws out the infamous "assault rifle" term, all of which require a 6-14 month waiting period simply to buy one from another person, so I'm not sure who's committing crimes with guns they have to order a year in advance for their crimes, in addition to submitting for a very detailed background check by the ATF, and paying at least $7,000 for any modern working assault rifle, since the cut off for registration was 1986. It's only legal to own "assault rifles" that were registered 40 years ago.

Can you imagine people still being upset about some model of an "assault vehicles" with a dangerous "high capacity gas tank" that has a tendency to explode when you slam into a metal railing at 130 miles/hour? And even if we outlawed the new production of these cars in 1986, and they realized it'd probably be wrong to go to hundreds of thousands of people who had registered these guns, bought them when they were legal, paid taxes on them, and confiscate them because these "assault vehicles" were too dangerous when some dipshit decided to do something to end his own life with one.

That's basically the same argument. Anyone crying about "assault rifles" is too dumb to know they've banned new registration of them for over 40 years, people whining about them are crying about technology that's older than 40 years, and machines older than 40 years.

People like Wu have no problem with the mass confiscation of firearms. California is just about starting: "large capacity" magazines, meaning standard capacity for the majority of all guns, were outlawed in California years back, but people who had bought them legally weren't required to turn in their property they legally bought. They were "grandfathered" in and could no longer sell or transfer these magazines, but they could still own and use them.

Then, years later, California just ups and says "yeah, turn in all of those magazines you legally bought with your money you worked for, or if we catch you with it we'll throw you in jail. No we're not compensating you."

Does anyone here understand the connection between registration of firearms, and an eventual confiscation with this registration? Like what Connecticut did? They required all "assault weapons" (not even an assault rifle, go look up what this is on your own) be registered. Why? How is knowing who has what AR15 going to stop Joe from killing someone with it? But it'll sure be handy if Connecticut ever changes mere possession of "assault weapons" into a crime and demands everyone who registered turn them in, or face a SWAT raid.

People like Wu love confiscation, door to door searches, all in the name of stopping the evil salty rifles that are 50+ year old relics.

In 10 years, every single registered "assault rifle" will be older than 50 years old. That officially classifies them under US law as Curios and Relics, and would allow them (normally) to send them to people in the mail simply with a $10 Federal Firearms License, dubbed a Curio and Relic license. These people are really upset about Curios and Relics being in the hands of people who appreciate them, and are trying to confiscate them all.

The ATF is also the regulatory agency that tried to define a fucking shoelace as a "registered machine gun part" because you can simulate automatic fire if you tie a shoelace around the trigger and the bolt of a gun.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=43P8PHKTny0
There were a few moments in time where you could have been breaking the law because the ATF decided you had two unregistered machine gun parts on your shoes. That's two counts. Each count earns you a $50,000 fine and 10 years in prison.

Think about how unprogressive these progressives are when they're trying to outlaw technology like shoelaces and 40+ year old machines.

The ATF practically deserves a thread on this site at this point.
 
The ATF practically deserves a thread
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Maybe one on just US government agencies or government agencies in general?
 
This kind of stuff reminds me of how companies will ride competent employees and shower them with nitpicks and pull them aside for "counseling" on how they need to stop making mistakes like not dotting thier "i" s in just the right place, while grossly incompetent employees who are chronically late or absent and do nothing but smoke all day are left alone because they threaten to sue you for discrimination if you attempt any discipline.

Enforcing law upon the enforceable merely because you can, not because it's needed, is a flawed ideology. It's an easy and cheap way to look like you're doing something by targeting people who deep down inside, want to please others. Honest gun owners will jump through 99% of all the hoops you put in front of them, while dishonest ones don't give a fuck and never will. Besides, using your energy and resources to chase the guy who missed hoop number #485 instead of the one who didn't even bother with the first one is easy because you have a track record of all the ones he did get through first to build a "case" from than the guy who just says "Don't know what you're talkin' bout' man".

And in both cases, the net effect of going after the ones who are trying to comply is stewing resentment at a governing body that feels incompetently out of touch.
 
And in both cases, the net effect of going after the ones who are trying to comply is stewing resentment at a governing body that feels incompetently out of touch.

oh it's not jsut a feeling, trust me.

Still people do not learn, they still follow the rules that are only there to make it easy to fuck them up.
 
I feel like if we do that we're on the fast track to becoming the official #McVeighWasRight website.

Please, fucking every country has a branch of its government this outright retarded. That's the main reason we won't have a thread on the ATF itself; we'd quickly have fucking hundreds of threads on almost every government on the planet and how all of them are laughably incompetent and brain-shittingly retarded.
 
Does Wu not know that people also hunt for food, not fun?
Also hunt for population control, out in the farmland they do Coyote hunts to keep them from breeding like hell and all of a sudden farmers find all their crops and cows eaten.

Even the most exterme gun control people (that have some sanity left) agree that people like farmers should have something to keep vermin in check.
 
Also hunt for population control, out in the farmland they do Coyote hunts to keep them from breeding like hell and all of a sudden farmers find all their crops and cows eaten.

Even the most exterme gun control people (that have some sanity left) agree that people like farmers should have something to keep vermin in check.
This is very true. People like Wu seem to have a very Disney view of "the cycle of life," as if ecosystems are an intelligent being that keeps everything in perfect balance where everything has its place. Population is a cycle.

Suppose you have rabbits and there are very few coyotes to prey on them. This leads to an explosion in the rabbit population and they begin to devour every scrap of vegetation, which is damaging to the ecosystem. After a few years the coyote population will start to increase and with a buffet of rabbit to feast on will also explode. As the coyote population increases the rabbit population decreases until it hits a point where there are more coyotes than rabbits for them to eat.

With a hoards of coyotes and no rabbit for them to eat the coyote population slowly starves to death. After the coyote population starves off or leaves the rabbits begin repopulating and the cycle starts again.

Hunting keeps both populations stable so one never outnumbers the other which is better for the entire ecosystem.



Tl;dr Brianna Wu is a man.
 
Maybe one on just US government agencies or government agencies in general?

Imagine you took a bunch of people too fucking dumb, sociopathic or just insane to get into the FBI and gave them all badges and guns.

That agency would be the ATF.
 
This is very true. People like Wu seem to have a very Disney view of "the cycle of life," as if ecosystems are an intelligent being that keeps everything in perfect balance where everything has its place. Population is a cycle.

Suppose you have rabbits and there are very few coyotes to prey on them. This leads to an explosion in the rabbit population and they begin to devour every scrap of vegetation, which is damaging to the ecosystem. After a few years the coyote population will start to increase and with a buffet of rabbit to feast on will also explode. As the coyote population increases the rabbit population decreases until it hits a point where there are more coyotes than rabbits for them to eat.

With a hoards of coyotes and no rabbit for them to eat the coyote population slowly starves to death. After the coyote population starves off or leaves the rabbits begin repopulating and the cycle starts again.

Hunting keeps both populations stable so one never outnumbers the other which is better for the entire ecosystem.



Tl;dr Brianna Wu is a man.
 
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