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I dread to think what the next big thing might be, from cutting of your dick to infinity and beyoooond.
Once the backlash hits the LGBTQ community, where will all the transtrenders go? What will they do?
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Young people who never took any medical steps to transition will look back at themselves and laugh, like we all do at the dumb things we thought were cool when we were young. Their parents will pull out the photos of them with a teal undercut and pronoun badge every time they bring a new boyfrind or girlfriend to meet the family.
Those who got the chop will cry about how they were misled by medical professionals and start suing for malpractice, many of them will be right and some of them will win.
Old perverts will have to readjust to being kicked out of places for being perverts.
Munchausen by Proxy parents will have to find a new diagnosis to make their exceptionally ordinary children special.
Men going through midlife crises will go back to having affairs and buying sports cars.
Butch lesbians will go back to being butch lesbians.
We'll all go back to calling it LGB.
Those who got the chop will cry about how they were misled by medical professionals and start suing for malpractice, many of them will be right and some of them will win.
Old perverts will have to readjust to being kicked out of places for being perverts.
Munchausen by Proxy parents will have to find a new diagnosis to make their exceptionally ordinary children special.
Men going through midlife crises will go back to having affairs and buying sports cars.
Butch lesbians will go back to being butch lesbians.
We'll all go back to calling it LGB.
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The British had "section 28" from the late 80's shockingly to 2003. While it was not illegal to be gay over there they seemed to be much more opposed culturally to them even compared to the United States. The promotion of homosexuality in England was minimal.
The US could perhaps think of such a law to get ahold on this problem. I'm not saying to lock up the trannies and queers but to end the media fixation on them would be a step in the right direction.
The US could perhaps think of such a law to get ahold on this problem. I'm not saying to lock up the trannies and queers but to end the media fixation on them would be a step in the right direction.
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Honestly, sometimes the fucked thing about backlash or opposition, is that it 'brings a community closer', and sometimes vulnerable sorts-of-people will follow shepherds with bad intentions, because they will tell their flock that what's coming for them would be so much worse than what ever could possibly lie ahead on the road that the shepherd's leading them down.
Like there's people who deserve to go hell, but then there's just people that those kinds of people have convinced that they are 'the good guys', no matter what.
Sometimes, you have to be very.... neutral in how you present yourself.
I think that in that case, that criticizing someone for a trait they can't help (i.e: feeling like they are supposed to be transgender, or having a mental illness) will just make righteous people more defensive for a somewhat reasonable reason.
I believe it works better to convince, when people point out other people's misdeeds, without blaming it on something that non-predatory people would also have...
You know, like, if there's people excusing the actions of some trans person who is abusive.... (on the basis that trans can do no wrong), I wish that many people would publically ask,
"Hey! What if a cisgender person did that? Would you defend them? (or a white heterosexual cisgender male yuppie scum... et cetera.)
Why don't you think trans people are human like everyone else, and capable of committing the same human acts as other people?
Do you not think trans people are normal people?"
or whatever some group is particularly saying.... if there's a way to use what they're saying against them, and show just how bigoted and mentally fucked up they are.
Because I've seen how some people will lie about 'the outside world' and pretend like all the goddamn cissies are out to get us, oh no.... and everything.
You have to evaluate the personalities of the people in a group... because everyone will react in an individual way.
Some people will just stay in a group until they die, even if they're not even 'really trans', if they think 'the outside world' is going to be hostile to them.
They could live productive lives without having to contort themselves into some gender box... but they could choose to just stick with it, even if they would be miserable as an actual transsexual. People make dumb decisions every day. Fads don't go away for everyone... even if they're just doing it because it's a fad.
They could keep chugging on principle until they see no reason not to neck themselves, because everyone 'just goddamn hates them so much, boo hoo, what did I ever do?'
Like there's people who deserve to go hell, but then there's just people that those kinds of people have convinced that they are 'the good guys', no matter what.
Sometimes, you have to be very.... neutral in how you present yourself.
I think that in that case, that criticizing someone for a trait they can't help (i.e: feeling like they are supposed to be transgender, or having a mental illness) will just make righteous people more defensive for a somewhat reasonable reason.
I believe it works better to convince, when people point out other people's misdeeds, without blaming it on something that non-predatory people would also have...
You know, like, if there's people excusing the actions of some trans person who is abusive.... (on the basis that trans can do no wrong), I wish that many people would publically ask,
"Hey! What if a cisgender person did that? Would you defend them? (or a white heterosexual cisgender male yuppie scum... et cetera.)
Why don't you think trans people are human like everyone else, and capable of committing the same human acts as other people?
Do you not think trans people are normal people?"
or whatever some group is particularly saying.... if there's a way to use what they're saying against them, and show just how bigoted and mentally fucked up they are.
Because I've seen how some people will lie about 'the outside world' and pretend like all the goddamn cissies are out to get us, oh no.... and everything.
You have to evaluate the personalities of the people in a group... because everyone will react in an individual way.
Some people will just stay in a group until they die, even if they're not even 'really trans', if they think 'the outside world' is going to be hostile to them.
They could live productive lives without having to contort themselves into some gender box... but they could choose to just stick with it, even if they would be miserable as an actual transsexual. People make dumb decisions every day. Fads don't go away for everyone... even if they're just doing it because it's a fad.
They could keep chugging on principle until they see no reason not to neck themselves, because everyone 'just goddamn hates them so much, boo hoo, what did I ever do?'
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Invest in de-transition clinics. It's going to be a real industry soon.
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To answer the question at hand, we first need to look where the cracks are already starting to show.
There are already splinter groups that are gaining traction, such as the LGB Alliance. One look into their website and you can find that they have established footholds in first world countries such as Australia, Mexico and Wales, just to name a few. Additionally, said group promotes themselves as a space for detransitioners to speak about "... their experiences with dysphoria, transition, the medical industry, and the trans community, as well as their right to expose truths about transition that many aim to keep buried."
This tells me that there is already a growing number of LGB individuals who don't associate with the LGBT+ movement due to how it has devolved into an echo chamber for troons.
As to where the transtrenders will go once the backlash within the LGBT+ community becomes too great (most likely due to evidence of expidited medicalization of young individuals that later show serious side effects and detransition later in life) so too will the LGBT+ community dissolve into these likely groups:
This is by no means a complete list, but what I can come up with off the top of my head. I hope the splintering of the LGBT+ community happens sooner rather than later, so LGB individuals can repair their reputation and continue pursuit of equal rights.
There are already splinter groups that are gaining traction, such as the LGB Alliance. One look into their website and you can find that they have established footholds in first world countries such as Australia, Mexico and Wales, just to name a few. Additionally, said group promotes themselves as a space for detransitioners to speak about "... their experiences with dysphoria, transition, the medical industry, and the trans community, as well as their right to expose truths about transition that many aim to keep buried."
This tells me that there is already a growing number of LGB individuals who don't associate with the LGBT+ movement due to how it has devolved into an echo chamber for troons.
As to where the transtrenders will go once the backlash within the LGBT+ community becomes too great (most likely due to evidence of expidited medicalization of young individuals that later show serious side effects and detransition later in life) so too will the LGBT+ community dissolve into these likely groups:
- LGB - Consisting of Lesbian, Gays & Bisexuals, this group will collaborate to continue pursuit of equal rights and representation for their kind. LGB may also show solidarity/allyship with True Transsexuals, Detransitioners & GNC but remain adimant about their separation from these groups, as LGB is based solely on sexual orientation (homosexual, bisexual).
- "True" Transsexuals - Those that have suffered from the lifelong mental illness of dysphoria that all forms of psychological treatment have failed to remediate, leading the individual to undergo body modifications that there is no long or short term regret over AND who additionally solely identify and conform with all standards of the sex they transitioned to. These individuals will dodge the majority of the ire and hatred that falls on the trans community, and will most likely be accepted into LGB groups out of respect for their conformity and struggle to actually become what sex they have transitioned to.
- Fetishized Transsexuals & Transgendered - This group is defined by AGP men and AAP women who have either fully, partially or never modified their body and only mimic stereotypes of the sex they fetishize to be for masturbatory reasons. Seen by LGB and True transsexuals as people who are deviant and force their fetish on unwilling participants, this group will most likely splinter into their own group due to shunning by the LGB and true transsexuals. The splintered group of Fetishized TS & TG will most likely associate and be adopted into the BDSM and fetish communities and continue their agenda of forced acceptance into wider society, which will be countered by wider society and the LGB groups. This group also includes TS & TG who have transitioned and refuse to admit regret/wrongdoing out of stubbornness.
- Transtrenders & Associated Detransitioners - This includes those that have either fully, partially or never transitioned who either detransition or stop mimicking the opposite of their natal sex due to having been pressured into transition due to repressed homosexuality, grooming/peer pressure, or understanding that their motivation was based on fetishization. The latter will most likely detransition into crossdressers with no public or coercive deviance and associate with BDSM / fetish groups. The former will detransition to be their true selves and be welcomed into the LGB groups and have a their support as once-misguided and manipulated individuals. The Middle (groomed/peer pressured heterosexuals) will associate with detransitioners welcomed by the LGB for support but pursue as normal a life as they can achieve. Additionally, repressed homosexuals and pressured heterosexuals may also choose to associate as/with GNC.
- Gender Non-conforming - These individuals, defined by their refusal to adhere to gender norms but not take any steps to transition will most likely fall into their own subsections of heterosexual or LGB groups as they never had desire to transition but unfortunately were associated with the trans movement. Having made an effort to prove that they do not want to physiologically change but just live on their own terms, they may largely fall out of attention and eventually mix into their respective heterosexual and LGB groups.
This is by no means a complete list, but what I can come up with off the top of my head. I hope the splintering of the LGBT+ community happens sooner rather than later, so LGB individuals can repair their reputation and continue pursuit of equal rights.
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I think my suggestion for how to stop trannyism from being such a popular social trend -- at least in a certain way -- is to take away the 'credit' that one gains by identifying as transgender, in certain scenes.
...but you don't do that by making tranny the lower-class, because then the pendulum will just swing the other way again, like it has before.
The thing is that 'cisgender' identity -- within these hip cliques -- tends to have a 'regressive' old-school connotation.
I think one possible change would be to refer to someone's 'cisgender' status, as just 'non-transgender', or "I'm not trans."
Then there is no connotation.
The other thing, (which this version only works for people who naturally have a certain personality type).... is to set a good example of what you want other people to follow.
If you're a masculine type of chick, and you don't think testosterone injections will make your life better... then quietly set an example of,
"I can be this, and still be female."
Same thing with feminine-type-of-guys. If that's what you want to be, then don't bend to the social pressure.
Just pretend that this trans trend has never fucking happened, and just be yourself... and people may start waking out of their daze.
...Engaging in any way with the narrative... is just playing the game the way they want you to.
It's your game, they can be playing by your rules.
I actually believe that everyone should set a good example, but these two seem to be the most prominent hot-button trans issues, but if everyone is setting a good example of what people can be, then that's just better.
Anyone can contribute to making the world a better place.
...but do not make it at all about how you're rebelling against the tranny menace.
Allow people to come to their own conclusions, and mentally work things out for themselves.
You can't tell people what to think, unless you just want to run an opposing cult to the Tranny Mafias... (but that sounds like a lot of work for no net gain.)
...but you don't do that by making tranny the lower-class, because then the pendulum will just swing the other way again, like it has before.
The thing is that 'cisgender' identity -- within these hip cliques -- tends to have a 'regressive' old-school connotation.
I think one possible change would be to refer to someone's 'cisgender' status, as just 'non-transgender', or "I'm not trans."
Then there is no connotation.
The other thing, (which this version only works for people who naturally have a certain personality type).... is to set a good example of what you want other people to follow.
If you're a masculine type of chick, and you don't think testosterone injections will make your life better... then quietly set an example of,
"I can be this, and still be female."
Same thing with feminine-type-of-guys. If that's what you want to be, then don't bend to the social pressure.
Just pretend that this trans trend has never fucking happened, and just be yourself... and people may start waking out of their daze.
...Engaging in any way with the narrative... is just playing the game the way they want you to.
It's your game, they can be playing by your rules.
I actually believe that everyone should set a good example, but these two seem to be the most prominent hot-button trans issues, but if everyone is setting a good example of what people can be, then that's just better.
Anyone can contribute to making the world a better place.
...but do not make it at all about how you're rebelling against the tranny menace.
Allow people to come to their own conclusions, and mentally work things out for themselves.
You can't tell people what to think, unless you just want to run an opposing cult to the Tranny Mafias... (but that sounds like a lot of work for no net gain.)
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LGBT, one of these things are not like the other, one of these things are not treated as a sexuality. I never understood it, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transexual, we all have the same rights as a straight married couple now. Transexual's definition has changed over time and has become the term transgender. The LGBT community shouldn't care about transgenders as they are either man or woman and fall into one of the categories Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual. Transexual, however, are cross dresser or people who want sex while acting like the opposite sex, that doesn't necessarily mean they want to do reconstructive surgery; they just like being treated like the opposite sex.
What we really should have done is encouraged transgender people to form their own movement and support them as allies but keep them separate. Problem is, gender dysphoria is a very rare mental disorder and there wasn't enough people for that to happen. Look at it now, go form your own movement and stop co-opting our own. The LGBT community should stop enabling it.
What we really should have done is encouraged transgender people to form their own movement and support them as allies but keep them separate. Problem is, gender dysphoria is a very rare mental disorder and there wasn't enough people for that to happen. Look at it now, go form your own movement and stop co-opting our own. The LGBT community should stop enabling it.