One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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Incecticyder said:
I did not mean to sound apprehensive. It is just a bit frustrating to hear everyone call everything an asspull. You set things up two arcs ago and people act like there was no buildup. I hear that about a lot of anime. Character A was established as capable of doing thing B. Character A does thing B and the day is saved! You do things as simple as that and someone will try to act as if it came out of nowhere! These people have the attention span of a toddler with ADHD on speed and somehow expect the story to keep up with their TikTok-rotten brain while maintaining quality. Excuse the author for expecting you to have decent memory and attention span. And these guys are filling the web with their takes. God help us...
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yeah, we’re probably going to get something about how Gaban was onto something about how to face the God’s Knights, and yeah Gear 5 will probably be the key to keep things from being a complete disaster. It’s just feeling like I’m going crazy to get that payoff.


ShitLurker said:
I don't think it's a bad flashback (god's valley was peak), but it is rushing very damn hard and leaving too much unsaid or unmentioned, people are now headcannoning that Saul must have not told Harald enough about Ohara just to not have another gigantic red flag that Harald decided to ignore on the table.
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My only thing is that for as good as it was to finally understand the truth of Rocks and God Valley, this whole thing is about to be about Loki, and Loki is an afterthought at this point.
 
Random Internet Person said:
My only thing is that for as good as it was to finally understand the truth of Rocks and God Valley, this whole thing is about to be about Loki, and Loki is an afterthought at this point.
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Pretty much, and well, I'd say we have one chapter at most of flashback left. And I like Loki, I get his deal, but now I'm left wondering about what about all of that setup with big mom.
 
Random Internet Person said:
yeah, we’re probably going to get something about how Gaban was onto something about how to face the God’s Knights, and yeah Gear 5 will probably be the key to keep things from being a complete disaster. It’s just feeling like I’m going crazy to get that payoff.
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Well, this is One Piece. Payoffs take time. Strap in, have fun, analyze the chapter and do not be sad if it was not what you wanted now. Be happy it might be what you appreciate later. One Piece is a modern Odyssey. It is a long road with the payoffs happening at the end. In the meantime, enjoy the encounters with gods and giants!
 
Incecticyder said:
Well, this is One Piece. Payoffs take time. Strap in, have fun, analyze the chapter and do not be sad if it was not what you wanted now. Be happy it might be what you appreciate later. One Piece is a modern Odyssey. It is a long road with the payoffs happening at the end. In the meantime, enjoy the encounters with gods and giants!
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Well, at least God Valley was awesome .
 
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
Mother Caramel
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so that has been bugging me as well. the way mother caramel and big moms involvement in elbaf just seem to not exist for whatever reason is very strange. i mean i get that the flashback is supposed to be more centered around harald and his life and the truth behind his death but the flashback makes harald look really stupid and unaware of whats going on in his own kingdom.

i guess if nobody knew mother caramel was a spy then all that really happened is this weird girl showed up and ate everybody. then she came back a few years later with one of her daughters who married loki.

you would think that would have been mentioned since i imagine that was one of haralds first attempts at trying to keep elbaf protected.
Pentex said:
Rephrasing the question: "Why wasn't the revelation of one of the biggest deceptions of the World Government (the existence of Imu) enough to activate one of Harald's two brain cells to wonder if maybe these guys aren't being completely candid with him about anything else? Like allowing Elbaf into the World Government? Or to live peacefully?"
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i think at that point harald was so far gone in his delusions that this was totally gonna help elbaf that he just went along with it. and made excuses in his head to justify anything that stood out. in his mind all that mattered was the safety and happiness of elbaf.
 
Tetragrammaton said:
so that has been bugging me as well. the way mother caramel and big moms involvement in elbaf just seem to not exist for whatever reason is very strange. i mean i get that the flashback is supposed to be more centered around harald and his life and the truth behind his death but the flashback makes harald look really stupid and unaware of whats going on in his own kingdom.
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Elbaf has many villages. Harald was traveling a lot too.

Tetragrammaton said:
i guess if nobody knew mother caramel was a spy then all that really happened is this weird girl showed up and ate everybody. then she came back a few years later with one of her daughters who married loki.
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They did not marry as Loki wanted Lola, who run away.

Tetragrammaton said:
you would think that would have been mentioned since i imagine that was one of haralds first attempts at trying to keep elbaf protected.
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I think that between Jorul's murder and the incident at Sheep's House, Linlin's entire life might be a hard topic to bring up without ruining the mood. Also, Sheep's House had relocated into what on day would become WCI away from Elbaf. Many giants refused to say her name again.

Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Age wise i think Caramel would be happening during Harolds Punk years.
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No, it happened a bit after Harald decided to learn about other nation and Linlin killed Jorul and Carmel around the time of Loki's birth and the famine.
 
Incecticyder said:
No, it happened a bit after Harald decided to learn about other nation and Linlin killed Jorul and Carmel around the time of Loki's birth and the famine.
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I don't think that timeline quite adds up, loki is still pretty young when rocks died and Lin Lin was popping out kids way before that.
 
This whole shit about being cursed and a "harbinger of doom" with Loki makes me think about Shyarly's divination about Luffy destroying Fish-Man Island. They keep talking about how Nika has been seen as a god of destruction, and I think what they're setting up is that Luffy will end up destroying the world. But, I think he's only going to end up destroying Imu's world, creating a free world in the process. Maybe it'll be some Mother 3 shit.
 
Cryogonal2 said:
This whole shit about being cursed and a "harbinger of doom" with Loki makes me think about Shyarly's divination about Luffy destroying Fish-Man Island. They keep talking about how Nika has been seen as a god of destruction, and I think what they're setting up is that Luffy will end up destroying the world. But, I think he's only going to end up destroying Imu's world, creating a free world in the process. Maybe it'll be some Mother 3 shit.
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Could be like The Death Arcana: It represents great change and the end of the old state of thing and new beginnings. However, because of its name, most think it means actual death. It can but only if the death brings great change in one's life.
 
Cryogonal2 said:
They keep talking about how Nika has been seen as a god of destruction, and I think what they're setting up is that Luffy will end up destroying the world. But, I think he's only going to end up destroying Imu's world, creating a free world in the process.
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That's what I think is gonna happen, the system and the structure will be destroyed so Imu and the Celestial Dragons won't have the ways to control people or treat them like crap. But if it ends up with literal destruction, then that just means that t The One Piece will be found AFTER the final war.

Cryogonal2 said:
Shyarly's divination about Luffy destroying Fish-Man Island
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Can't wait to see how that coincides with Joy Boy's promise being kept by somebody else.

Evil Peter Griffin said:
There's a theory Shanks let the Sea King eat his arm to get rid of the tattoo.
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
it would explain why a Yonkou level pirate would let it happen then use Haki glare to scare it away
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The only issues with that are 1. Shanks losing his arm and treating it like no big deal is done in the sense of doing it to make sure Luffy is safe, rather than some tactical move 2. Even if it's the lowest tier of Imu being able to control people, I'm pretty sure that tattoo would have been used to try and find Shanks well before he saved Luffy, if only because of his lineage 3. Shanks only got his arm bitten off because Luffy got kidnapped by a bandit and thrown into the ocean because he couldn't swim after eating a devil fruit. If Shanks was so dedicated to the Gum Gum fruit and who had it, I really doubt Shanks would just be chill with Luffy just sailing around, let alone while wearing his hat. 4. Shanks would have to answer a question about the tattoo at some point, and again, Shanks would have a target on his back due to who he is.

I'm willing to still bet that the idea is that Shanks is working on some kind of orders from Roger, but even then, every one of his moves would be put under a microscope, especially with how much bigger knowledge of the world is being revealed that the WG tries to keep under wraps.
 
Random Internet Person said:
That's what I think is gonna happen, the system and the structure will be destroyed so Imu and the Celestial Dragons won't have the ways to control people or treat them like crap. But if it ends up with literal destruction, then that just means that t The One Piece will be found AFTER the final war.
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Oda has said that FINDING the One Piece will kickstart the final war.
 
Incecticyder said:
Carmel died 62 years ago at age 80. Linlin was 6 when she killed her. Linlin died at age 69. Loki is 63 (21 in human years). He was around 15 (5) when he met Rocks.
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Well I was wrong about that them

Also according to the Wiki the Giants just straight up never found out Caramel was a World Government Stooge so Harald probably just didn't think much of it beyond "Retard kid with retard strength got kicked off the Island,"

Oda has said that FINDING the One Piece will kickstart the final war.
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Doesn't make sense though, because There is no reason for Imu to let people get to the One Piece without bringing down the full force of the world government.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Also according to the Wiki the Giants just straight up never found out Caramel was a World Government Stooge so Harald probably just didn't think much of it beyond "Retard kid with retard strength got kicked off the Island,"
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In Linlin's defense, she was a 5-6 year old. Kids rarely are smarter than her at that age.

Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Doesn't make sense though, because There is no reason for Imu to let people get to the One Piece without bringing down the full force of the world government.
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Yeah, I doubt he knows where that is. How can he stop Luffy when he has no idea where he will go next? If he knew, Roger would have never been allowed to find Laugh Tale in the first place.
 
Incecticyder said:
How can he stop Luffy when he has no idea where he will go next?
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Because the end of the line isn't really Laugh Tale, there is a choke point before that.

Lodestar Island. Imu should have some Cipher Pol agents camping that island and the moment a Yonko step foot on that Island it becomes and instant mobilization of the World Governments entire military force. Really given that all path's lead to Lodestar the Cipher Pol Agents should be on the 2 or 3 Island before that Island, but Imu would be straight retarded if he didn't have an Abyss Circle somewhere on Loadstar to throw some Gods Knights at someone heading for Laugh Tale to hold them at Loadstar while the rest of the Marines are mobilized.

Shit we ain't seen Blueno in the timeskip have we? That Nigger should be sitting at Loadstar with orders "The moment a Yonko is sighted in the distance open a door to Sakuzi's office and tell him to get off his ass"

If he knew, Roger would have never been allowed to find Laugh Tale in the first place.
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The only reason he didn't try stop Roger is that he had no idea Roger could get to Laugh Tale, Roger had an ace in the hole with Oden being able to read the Red Poneglyphs and Dogstorm/Cat Viper knowing where the fourth one ones.

Getting to the last island wasn't possible until someone who could read the Poneglyphs showed up, which was why translating them was forbidden. Roger got incredibly lucky in having Oden land in Whitebeards lap because only Oden and Oden's father could have helped him.
 
Tetragrammaton said:
so that has been bugging me as well. the way mother caramel and big moms involvement in elbaf just seem to not exist for whatever reason is very strange. i mean i get that the flashback is supposed to be more centered around harald and his life and the truth behind his death but the flashback makes harald look really stupid and unaware of whats going on in his own kingdom.

i guess if nobody knew mother caramel was a spy then all that really happened is this weird girl showed up and ate everybody. then she came back a few years later with one of her daughters who married loki.

you would think that would have been mentioned since i imagine that was one of haralds first attempts at trying to keep elbaf protected.

i think at that point harald was so far gone in his delusions that this was totally gonna help elbaf that he just went along with it. and made excuses in his head to justify anything that stood out. in his mind all that mattered was the safety and happiness of elbaf.
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I'm pretty the sure the Lola stuff probably happened after Loki went on the run after the taking the blame for his Father's death.

Also, the flashback actually explicitly mentioned larval big mom's Semla rampage at one point.
 
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