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Tetragrammaton said:
also im thinking summers might end up dying before this is all over. him talking about imu like he did combined with how directly evil he has been so far makes me think he is first up on the chopping block for the gods knights.
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Imu was there too and could see that there is a Gear 5 Luffy walking around (unlike with Saturn) and Oda is very iffy on letting Luffy or his crew kill anyone directly.

So I doubt he would die unless if Imu is actually insane and eradicates people just because he failed to deal with Luffy personally when he was literally in front of him.
 
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Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
Oda is very iffy on letting Luffy or his crew kill anyone directly
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I thought it was well established that Luffy doesn’t kill people because making somebody see their dream be destroyed in front of them is way worse (even if he doesn’t say it out loud).


Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
So I doubt he would die unless if Imu is actually insane and eradicates people just because he failed to deal with Luffy personally when he was literally in front of him.
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I think Saturn established that, Imu does in fact kill people for failure, though I think that Oda will hold off on Imu seeing Luffy in Gear 5 because of not wanting to reveal things too early.
 
Random Internet Person said:
I think Saturn established that, Imu does in fact kill people for failure, though I think that Oda will hold off on Imu seeing Luffy in Gear 5 because of not wanting to reveal things too early.
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Yeah but the Saturn situation is very different from this one. Imu wasn't even involved in the Egghead Incident until Joy Boy's haki hit him through the Covenant he made with Saturn and it was very clear that he cared about Luffy being there more than Vegapunk. In here he was directly involved and there is a Gear 5 Luffy that I am pretty sure will be going directly after him when he was possessing Gunko and Sommers was just standing there laughing at the kids going to die (he didn't see Loki was under the cliff).

Random Internet Person said:
I thought it was well established that Luffy doesn’t kill people because making somebody see their dream be destroyed in front of them is way worse (even if he doesn’t say it out loud).
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I'm thinking of the possibility where Sanji kills Sommers literally for whatever reason there.
 
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Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
Yeah but the Saturn situation is very different from this one. Imu wasn't even involved in the Egghead Incident until Joy Boy's haki hit him through the Covenant he made with Saturn and it was very clear that he cared about Luffy being there more than Vegapunk. In here he was directly involved and there is a Gear 5 Luffy that I am pretty sure will be going directly after him when he was possessing Gunko and Sommers was just standing there laughing at the kids going to die (he didn't see Loki was under the cliff).
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the saturn situation is because saturn failed to destroy emeth when imu commanded him to do so years ago he disobeyed imu and that ended up being the reason for the failure on egghead and the revealing of some part of the void century. as far as sommers is concerned he is failing imu by not following orders and daring to shrug it off as "oh well this is technically imus fault for controlling gunko guess the kids are gonna die and he cant blame me for it"

i could be wrong but i just think imu is not the type of person to accept blame for anything even if it is actually his fault. instead he would deflect and punish those who he deems failed him and in this case i think sommers is the one who will get the blame above everyone else.


Do Not Touch Me Pls said:
I'm thinking of the possibility where Sanji kills Sommers literally for whatever reason there.
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i mean a woman was already harmed so sommers is already on the sanji list of people to beat up. that being said its been a while since we saw franky and bonney as well as lilith if by some crazy stroke of luck they are able to get kuma back his power is almost a counter to sommers
 
Tetragrammaton said:
the saturn situation is because saturn failed to destroy emeth when imu commanded him to do so years ago he disobeyed imu and that ended up being the reason for the failure on egghead and the revealing of some part of the void century.
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Actually it's him failing to take care of Luffy/Joy Boy that did him in. Him disregarding Imu to leave Emeth alone just meant that Luffy could exploit the Joy Boy Haki tied inside, which would had been alerted Imu that Luffy exists through the Covenant.

But here's the thing. There's no way anyone could had been predicted or avoided this since that happened like 200 years before Luffy and Luffy himself is completely unpredictable and unavoidable. He escalates way too quickly for the WG to prepare anything specifically against him beyond just swatting him with their best somewhere down the line, can't be coerced or threatened with hostages unlike Xebec or Whitebeard, and shows up in Egghead pretty much by coincidence.

Tetragrammaton said:
I could be wrong but i just think imu is not the type of person to accept blame for anything even if it is actually his fault. instead he would deflect and punish those who he deems failed him and in this case i think sommers is the one who will get the blame above everyone else.
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Joy Boy is way more important than some Giants. Losing some Giant kids means that they still have a very beefy military force, some loyal Admirals and a bunch of Demon giants to move into Mary Geoise. If Fujitora is an issue then they can just move him out of the holy land to protect civilian territories instead (chances are Garp is dead to Blackbeard by then so they don't need to worry about him). Letting Joy Boy (Luffy) live another day means that sooner or later they are all dead.
 
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Random Internet Person said:
I thought it was well established that Luffy doesn’t kill people because making somebody see their dream be destroyed in front of them is way worse (even if he doesn’t say it out loud).
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We have covered this before, Luffy repeatedly has shown that he will launch a Devil Fruit user into the ocean where they will die. While he doesn't directly murder people he has clearly shown that he has exactly zero issues with hitting someone with an attack that is likely to kill them including twice in Egghead. (Kizaru and Mars). Lucci, Buggy and Wapol should all straight up be dead at Luffy's hand.

And Kaido is likely dead at Luffy's hand.
 
Loki has one of the DFs that Rocks searched for and I think Blackbeard might have the other one because Blackbeard stated he has searched a long time for that darkness fruit and maybe as a kid he had some awareness of being with his father about searching for very specific devil fruits like him. Luffy's DF is not even known in the DF book so high chance Rocks didnt know about it if that could have been the 3rd DF that would have some kind of effect on Imu or his power. Glad we will find out soon.
 
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This guy really is rock hard at the prospect of kids dying in front of him.

His name's got to be in the files.
Tetragrammaton said:
also im thinking summers might end up dying before this is all over. him talking about imu like he did combined with how directly evil he has been so far makes me think he is first up on the chopping block for the gods knights.
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Probably not. Saturn got away with failing to destroy Emeth despite possessing a deep-deep sea covenant with Imu. Despite the level of power Imu holds over the deep and deep-deep sea covenant holders (direct possession), he doesn't appear to be watching them or know what they are doing at all times.

Ideally, Luffy and Loki give Sommers a sequel to the death of Harald, which opens a space in God's Knights for a certain prisoner of Impel Down.
 
Pentex said:
Probably not. Saturn got away with failing to destroy Emeth despite possessing a deep-deep sea covenant with Imu. Despite the level of power Imu holds over the deep and deep-deep sea covenant holders (direct possession), he doesn't appear to be watching them or know what they are doing at all times.
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He did not get away with it. He hid it successfully for years.
 
warhammerautist said:
Loki has one of the DFs that Rocks searched for and I think Blackbeard might have the other one because Blackbeard stated he has searched a long time for that darkness fruit and maybe as a kid he had some awareness of being with his father about searching for very specific devil fruits like him. Luffy's DF is not even known in the DF book so high chance Rocks didnt know about it if that could have been the 3rd DF that would have some kind of effect on Imu or his power. Glad we will find out soon.
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So what's the running theme between Loki and Blackbeard's DFs?
 
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