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I just want to laugh at funny rubber man doing wacky cartoony shit while he causes his detractors to cope and seethe that they can't lay a finger on him. Everything surrounding him is just a bonus.
One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!
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That's not what I said either. You guys are coping extremely hard and refusing to admit that the series has serious objective narrative flaws due to Oda's bad-writing after nearly 30 years doing this shit.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Literally this. Anyone who has an IQ above room temperature and any shred of integrity will admit that the series (like any other piece of media) has flaws. I said it multiple times at this point, I LOVE One Piece, you can love a series and still point out its flaws and criticize it, these 2 concepts are not mutually exclusive. In the same way for example that I love Naruto and I believe its a masterpiece in storytelling (probably my 2nd favorite anime even), I will point out that Kaguya's motivations are pretty dumb and superficial. Does that mean the series as a whole is bad? Absolutely not, again, I am simply not a bootlicker. What the author does isn't a biblical commandment to me.
"Hurr durr ur retard"
If a series becoming more popular causes an influx of positive and negative criticism, does that not mean that the negative criticism still has some weight to it? Or do you believe that any criticism in existence is a result of le heckin "youtube talking points"?
I'll do you better buddy, you're a pretentious retard and emotional toddler who can't accept anyone disagreeing with you about your favorite wittle fictional series. What are you gonna do? Cry about it?
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No.
Your talking points specifically have been sourced from youtube.
The issue is it’s the same “criticism,” verbatim, that low-IQ retards, such as yourself, have mindlessly parroted without actually considering since Wano ended, again all of which could be summed up as fundamental elements to an adventure series dressed up as critique by people, such as yourself, who can’t handle others liking what you don’t.
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Do you even like One Piece?
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The amount of projection here is fascinating. You're the one sperging your guts out because I pointed out shit that don't make sense (eg: the flood of fake-out deaths). But "ermmmm akshually UR THE ONE WHO CAN'T STAND IT WHEN PEOPLE ENJOY THING YOU DON'T". Amazing.
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Well aren’t you a morbid fucking prick
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You come here with a conclusion and try to work into justifying it. We provided info as to why your source is wrong/nip-picking/merely expressing subjective opinions and you reeeeed about it. You are not here for a discussion, you are here for consensus.
You parroted someone else's opinion. You know what happens when you do that? You end up having to defend a thought you do not fully understand. We can poke holes far more easily. I do not believe that One Piece is perfect. I believe you and that Shane guy fail to properly understand the actual issues with the work. Having Tropes is not a flaw. Having a formula is not a flaw. Pointing out that One Piece does something is nip picking. Identifying Tropes is not criticism. Good for you, you can navigate the TvTropes website. It is the Cinema Sins method and it has become tired. I personally have my own gripes with the story. I, however, try to actually understand what hurts it versus what just bugs me for no reason. I try to separate my own biases. You saw a video that agreed with your bias and instead of asking the question of if this is confirmation bias, you came here like Moses delivering the 10 Commandments.
We are not saying the work is flawless, you are saying we do. Want to hear my actual issues with the series? Fine. I hate how Syrup Village is designed. It looks like a scrapped island from a Pokemon game. I also consider Skypeia arc to have the worst side-character fights in the series. Badly designed from start to finish and fail to make me interested in their dial gimmick. Thriller Bark had almost no interesting zombie design. The arc also spend too much time beating around the bush and Brook did not explain from the start the dangers that the crew were into. No reasons for that. In Punk Hazard, Caesar failed to use his DF to its full potential and give a more interesting fight. In Totto Land, most of BMs children were underutilized and felt wasted. So many characters introduced and few will see the ight of day. Wano had Yamato being a weirdo to the point where there is a schism in the community. Why not have her think of herself Oden's successor instead of being his stan?
That is what I can think of the top of my mind. I can see the things Oda could do better. I just do not consider every conclusion that comes to mind absolute. We cannot fully eliminate bias. We shouldn't think we can either. Sometimes, I come to conclusions having only part of the story. Sometimes, I get thoughts while recalling only half the facts. If I suspect that is the case, I try to re-examine what I have from different angles. You saw a video you agree with and came here to get validated. Do not always expect that to work out the way you think it will.
Think about how stupid the average person is and realize half are worse than that. Yes, negative criticism has weight. A lot of criticism is noise and repetition. Emotions, tastes and biases play roles too. Also, we are not saying that every criticism is "youtube talking points". Just YOUR criticism. Specifically. The whole "coming up with a conclusion and eliminating any evidence to the contrary" is peak "Youtube". We have seen it all. Releasing a video filled with easy to disprove with clickbait title and talking about one's opinion as if it is an absolute fact. It sounds like an atheist trying to own religion only applied to anime.
Name-calling? Seriously? And you call HIM a toddler that cannot take disagreement? Any reflective surfaces in your house? A camera would do too.
A reviewer is like a scientist or a judge. They see the facts, double and triple check, see evidence, hear multiple opinions/perspectives and come to a conclusion. A judge that has already decided someone is guilty is biased. A scientist that seeks to prove an equation and cannot accept it might be wrong is biased. A reviewer that has decided to cut out the part of the work that does not fit his conclusion is biased.
If you are going to talk about a work you have not even read past a certain point, be polite about it and do not pretend you understand everything we talk about. A whole lot of things went over your head. Be nice and be willing to argue and be contested. Especially regarding personal opinions.
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I only really got into One Piece once they went full Blake Seven... On A Boat with the introduction of Robin and the Void Century....
Nothing short of a full kill them all ending will make it worth the way One Piece kept dragging on and on and on like it did.
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Well, One Piece is not that kind of story. Never was. Oda is always honest that he wants it to be funny and wacky and to not take itself too seriously. Do not slam the door on your way out as some of us are taking a nap, ok?
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Incorrect. I did in fact come here to have a discussion (or else why would I even waste my time writing some paragraphs?), and I stated some objective (some may be subjective too yeah) critiques I came to adopt as I watched the series, and here's what you and that butthurt baby above did:
1. Misrepresent, exaggerate (or even lie about) any argument and/or criticism constantly ("THAT GUY IN THE VIDEO USED FANSERVICE AS AN ARGUMENT", "WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT STRONG PEOPLE", "YOU HATE [THING] THEREFORE YOU HATE THE ENTIRE SERIES", "CLEARLY YOU HATE FUN".. blablabla). Which I had to say over and over again that no, that's not what I said, or no, that's not what we're talking about. You didn't even watch the video in all honesty, because some of the shittalking you gave in regards to it aren't even mentioned once.
2. Pretend to agree with but dismiss literally every single argument with some cheap justification ("Fair, BUT..", "This might be true, BUT..", "TO BE FAIR..".. etc). The level of mental gymnastics here is so severe that you even tried justifying the pacing my nigga.. what is actually wrong with you. How much is Oda paying you man? Be honest.
3. Pretend that any critique is a result of some kind of brainwash caused by mob-mentality from (((them heckin youtubers!!!))) ("DIFFERENT OPINION? SOMEONE PUT THAT IN YOUR HEAD BRO", "THAT THOUGHT ISN'T ACTUALLY YOURS!!", "YOU CLEARLY PARROTED OPINION FROM [youtuber]".. etc). You guys would make excellent flat-earthers.
4. [Insult] ("YOU THINK THIS WAY BECAUSE U LOW IQ"). I don't really give a fuck about insults since we're supposed to be grown ass men, but goddamn lmfao. All of this over some stranger online stating his opinion.
If I wanted consensus I would submerge myself in some internet "safespace" or hugbox (maybe some private group somewhere idk) where nobody could ever push or challenge my points and beliefs, yet here I am. I started the discussion, I came here to see opinions, and the very first thing you personally did is lie and misrepresent the video and my own critiques (which apparently isn't even my own thought I guess). <- the very definition of "bad faith behavior" btw. That's not how discussions are nor how "providing info" is,
This is another instance of something I literally never said. I said that One Piece's formula and tropes are poorly executed and repetitive (especially post-timeskip).
Buddy again, what are you even talking about. Do you honestly think that CinemaSins invented criticism? Am I a cog in a grand scheme/clique perpetrated by the Templeton Foundation where youtubers are being instructed to destroy One Piece at all costs? I only said "cliché" ONCE, and the only instance where I even criticized tropes directly wasn't even that deep, I said that Shanks (the guy with Celestial Dragon blood) being raised by arguably their worst enemy is part of the many conveniences that Oda has been shoving into the story, but even so I stated multiple times that I can understand the appeal for Shanks being a World Noble. Did I or did I not? (so again, you guys are blowing all of this out of proportion and exaggerating any kind of pushback).
Look at what you're doing here for example.
>Yes, negative criticism has weight
>But people are stupid, biased and a lot of it is noise and repetition
This is another instance where you half-heartedly agree with something, but dismiss it with a very cheap and weak justification. If a series has a fundamental problem that a huge chunk of the fanbase is complaining about.. I think it would be fair to say that AT LEAST SOMETHING is clearly wrong no?
Let me pick a direct parallel to this. Say you're a novice doctor and your job is to monitor the Vaers Database, this database is where people (no matter the age, gender, income level, IQ, race..) can report whether they suffered any kind of adverse effect from a vaccine, and they can do so COMPLETELY ANONYMOUSLY. Now clearly, this poses a problem because you're obviously gonna have trolls, antivaxxers and any type of dishonest individual that'll report something false, thus clearly, there's gonna be A LOT of noise. Now, you as the young doctor you might ask yourself "Hmm.. what's even the point of this? If anyone can state something false and create noise, how can you even find any kind of factual evidence from this?", and the answer is simple, CONSISTENCY. If you have thousands and thousands of individuals who are literally saying the exact same thing without fault, that's a red-flag. This automatically tells you "This is not meaningless noise, something is clearly wrong here", and so the point of the Vaers Database is for doctors to monitor whether there's a consistent pattern of symptoms and reports associated with a particular vaccine, doctors will examine the pattern and determine whether the vaccine is in fact responsible for the effects (and the federal government will even compensate you financially if you did in fact suffer adverse effects! talk about a handy tool).
^Its the same thing, if you have hundreds of thousands of fans (or even millions, since One Piece is really that big) who are saying the exact same thing, do you not think that maybe there's a point there? It stops being meaningless noise and just "people being dumb" when there's a clear and consistent pattern being reproduced (The biggest example of this is the critique towards One Piece's pacing. Practically every single person I interacted with online and offline agrees that the pacing of the series is deranged, thats not noise, its probably the biggest fundamental problem with the series).
Nigga is literally calling everyone who disagrees with him a retard left and right (me and the other guy who agreed with me), as I always say "If you don't wanna play don't come to the playground".
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That is on me. What I mean to say is that when someone complains about these two gags, they really complain about the sexualization of women. Every time it is the same. One Piece sexualizes both men and women. Also, it is aimed at teenage boys.
Now you are misinterpreting me. That argument is about how stupid such complaints are. Some people are more important than others. Some people know each other. Some are born with immense talent. Some inherited their talents. It is stupid to make the complain "This guy used to be just a strong dude, now he is the strong son of a strong dude". We did not know of Shanks' parentage before so his family could have been strong or weak.
Here is what you ACTUALLY miss: You miss when Shanks was an enigma. A mystery. There are connections you never knew about. BM was the daughter of no one in particular. I assume most strong Marines also had no important lineage. There are a ton of characters who we do not know who were their parents. Maybe they are distantly related to someone strong. Who knows? You had it in your mind that Shanks was some miner's son or something and had a hissy fit when you found out he is a CD. Your headcanon is not canon. It is unfair to judge a work purely because your headcanon was not to pass. No one did the "The Last Jedi" were Shanks was confirmed to have insignificant parentage only to find out he is descended from Imu. We did not know who his parents were and now we do. That is it. And who the fuck cares if he has a brother? What does that change? His brother is there to do things we do not know about. He was just introduced.
Not saying that. I have no idea whether you like the series. If you are to have a hissy fit "I saw this video and came here to find out if it is true that One Piece sucks" then you are to be mocked for it. That is doom and gloom stuff. You are doomposting. Read the story with an open mind and come to your own conclusion. You clearly either fell out of love with the series and are here to be salty or you needed a break after very emotionally exhausting arc. I get it if it is the latter. Just know that most of us are actually liking the direction things are going. We are interested in the twists and turns. We want to see where we will go next.
Not saying you do. Just saying you hate it when we find fun in something you have concluded to not have any anymore.
What do you want me to say? I agree somewhat. Pell should have died. Others should have too. Thing is, the climate at the time meant that editors would not allow overt violence or death depicted unless they knew what they could get away with. After the manga industry was blamed for the Otaku Killer murders, editors became skittish when it comes to this and that. Did the story suffer from the fake-out deaths? Some of them sure. Others not. Just my opinion. Also, people have survived worse in real life than these injuries. Simo Hayha survived an explosive round to the face, there was the video of that bloke surviving lightning and Antrian Carton di Wyart (might be misspelling it) survived far worse shit. One Piece characters are stronger than real humans. Who knows? Maybe it make sense for that world.
What I said is to be careful about opinions on the internet that agree with your biases. In the internet, there is always those who will agree. We all fell into that rabbit hole once.
Same thing could be said about you. You came here with an opinion on a video, we told you what our opinion on it was and then you started a fight.4. [Insult] ("YOU THINK THIS WAY BECAUSE U LOW IQ"). I don't really give a fuck about insults since we're supposed to be grown ass men, but goddamn lmfao. All of this over some stranger online stating his opinion.
This is a place for both disagreements and agreements. You are going to be disagreed with. We disagree all the time here.
There you go:
You agreed with the guy that said those. I even pointed out that the formula is not even followed most of the time. Some parts of it are but the entirety is not. Here is the REAL One Piece formula: The crew arrives at a place-> Shit hits the fan-> The crew leaves. That is the only standard. Everything else about "the formula" is optional.
Poorly executed is subjective. You did not go into details as to what made it so. The repetitive is not. I pointed out that arcs do things differently.
Who the fuck said that? I said that THIS STYLE of commentary was invented by CinemaSins.
There are bigger coincidences in real life. This is not like winning the lottery twice in a row (has happened and it was caught on camera). Every story has coincidences. A story that goes on for 30 years will have a lot of them. Reality is a series of coincidences. Sometimes people luck out again and again. That is what keeps a story going. Sometimes, they are shit out of luck. That also keeps a story going. Want to hear a funny story about coincidences? Look up "Timothy Dexter". Reality is stranger than fiction.
Roger was at the same island as Shanks. Dragon was trying to get him into safety and basically reached one of the ports he knew was safe. That is it. Not too coincidental. The island was an inferno. He figured that the strong pirates would be safe and went there. Other things happened too but that is why Shanks was so close to Roger.
Reality is a series of coincidences. Fiction reflects that.
You really like your small letters, don't you? Look, good or bad, most opinions are noise. Because they are subjective and everyone has one. Vaccine side-effects are different. You have them or you don't. It is far easier to take that data and analyze it, at least if people are honest.
It is a sign that you are losing your cool. Calm down.
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Even in an autistic slapfight about anime, one can find a bit of wisdom.
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Not gonna act like his fight with Kaido was fun as a fan of cartoons like looney tunes and tom and jerry. It's the one thing i truly appreciate from Gear 5 it's a bizarre transformation for anime where the power boost in this genre as we know is just either angrier and stronger or more stoic and in control Luffy is bouncing around laughing as he sucker punches you through 10 walls.
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It was his first outing. The next fight was funnier.
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CALLED IT! I SAID IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE NIDHOGG DF!
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yeahh i see why it took shanks to beat loki already that nidhogg form is really really strong. i wonder if loki and luffy are going to fight after all this is done because the longer this goes on the more im starting to doubt loki will actually join the crew and if he does he is going to end up getting either weakened or shrunk down
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Why would he be shrunk down? He can hang out with his brother and his crew. Let Loki be like Vivi.
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And once again the day is saved thanks to the monster trio. And Loki.