Science One third of America is ruining Thanksgiving for the rest of us by ignoring COVID-19 — but it's easy to see why they have given up

A traditional Thanksgiving provides a-near perfect recipe for infectious diseases to spread.

People gather indoors, en masse, to cook, eat, drink, laugh, shout, fight, hug, kiss, and exchange air for hours on end. Everyone is exposed to everyone else: the young, the old, family, neighbors, and friends.

This is an ideal environment for the novel coronavirus to run wild and kill people this year.

That is why, while empathetic to our innate desires to mingle, leading public health experts like Dr. Anthony Fauci have said time and time again: Stay home this Thanksgiving if you can, gather outdoors if you must, and keep any interactions with other households brief, small, masked, and well-ventilated.

However, most Americans will not be doing that this Thursday.

A new Insider poll of 1,110 people across the US has found that roughly one third of those (37%) surveyed are not changing anything about how they run Thanksgiving this year. 31% of those asked said the CDC's recommendation not to travel this year had no impact on their plans. Most (57%) are even planning to mix different households at their dinner tables without wearing masks, opening windows, or using fans.

Yes, a third of the country is undermining the collective good faith efforts of everyone else to stay isolated, and keep our medics, essential workers, elders, and other vulnerable individuals safe.

But it would be trite to see this third of the country as malicious people. Everyone is mentally and emotionally exhausted, from going months without "normal" family connections. And they are justifiably frustrated: so many of our leaders, both local and national, have not done near enough within their power yet to prevent this virus's rampant spread across the nation and to deploy solid, evidence-based policies with enough systemic heft to make a dent in the pandemic.

So, let's not direct our ire at our neighbors who may not be doing the right thing around the table this year. But, at the same time, don't let their indifference to the virus infect your home. You could truly save someone's life if you avoid big Thanksgiving celebrations until 2021.

Canadian Thanksgiving seeded more spread of the virus there in October.

In Wuhan, Thanksgiving-like gatherings of tens of thousands of families sharing potluck meals for Lunar New Year in January ignited the virus too.

But the fact that the US is completely in the red already when it comes to new coronavirus infections means this will likely be the deadliest holiday gathering the world has seen during this pandemic.

Americans are tired and confused​

After more than nine months of conflicting messages, unclear guidance, and indecision about the virus, it's understandable that Americans would be tired and confused.

The virus situation in the US is near-impossible to contact trace, in many places it's still very difficult to get a test, and neither vaccines nor decent treatments to help quell the virus are here yet.

We've been asked — for many, many months on end — to voluntarily stay away from our relatives, cancel big weddings, parties, and holiday plans, in order to be good sports during the pandemic. But, at the same time, we've witnessed very conflicting and confusing policy decisions, which have done more to keep people comfortable as temperatures tumble, rather than focusing on what's safest, or best. Many bars and restaurants are still open, while schools are closed, making pandemic restrictions feel uselessly frustrating and pointless.

Add in a sprinkling of American exceptionalism, and it's easy to see why Thanksgiving has not been cancelled for so many.

"As a country we've been raised to believe that we do our own thing," former CDC outbreak investigator and Osmosis CMO Dr. Rishi Desai recently told Insider.

"If you're not in the ICU yourself, you don't see this as a big deal. What you notice is that it's affecting your life. You're bored, you're tired, you're lonely, and that's your experience. And so people act on their experience much more than they act on ration, reason, logic, data."

One doctor says he doesn't blame patients for doing Thanksgiving as normal this year, he blames our leaders​

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Health care worker Elizabeth Cameros, right, administers a deep nasal coronavirus test to traveler Wade Hopkins at a COVID-19 testing station at LAX on Monday, November 23, 2020 in Los Angeles, California. Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images
Dr. Eli Perencevich, an infectious disease specialist in Iowa City recently told Insider that many of his patients told him they will be doing Thanksgiving as normal this week, with extended family, and without masks. And yet, many of them have heart disease and emphysema, health conditions that doctors like him know can make the virus life-threatening.

He worries that these Thanksgiving celebrations could be the patients' last; it is pretty likely the coronavirus will be present at family dinner tables, given the current spread of the virus throughout the US. It is reasonable to expect that some of these people will die after their Thanksgiving meals end.

As Dr. Henry Walke, the CDC's COVID-19 incident manager, said on a call with reporters last week: "One of your family members, from coming together in this family gathering, actually could end up being hospitalized and severely ill and die."

But Dr. Perencevich doesn't fault his patients.

The blame, he says, lies with public officials, who haven't made it clear how to stay safe during the pandemic, or provided the good leadership, testing, and contact tracing required to squash the virus down across the US.

"It's just devastating that we're in this point where folks have gotten mixed messages, and a lot of people are getting sick because of it," Perencevich said.

He noted how politicians and local health authorities have too often let bars remain open when cases are exploding, and made it perfectly defensible for people to walk around indoors in public places without masks.

"It's going to get worse for the next weeks, no matter what we do, but we're not really turning the ship at all," he said. "So it looks like it's going to just keep getting worse."

Holding out for a big Thanksgiving in 2021 will be worth the wait​

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Elian McCrosky greets his grandparents, Rebecca and Randy Wells, at baggage claim at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana, California, on Monday, November 23, 2020. The Wells are visiting from South Carolina for Thanksgiving. Jeff Gritchen/MediaNews Group/Orange County Register via Getty Images
The truth is, holding off on big gatherings, for now, still has life-saving benefits.

By Thanksgiving 2021, it's likely every adult in the US will have already had access to very safe, effective coronavirus vaccines. Treatments for the virus may improve too, making any illnesses contracted then less deadly and debilitating than they are right now.

So if you're part of the 10% of people who said they are going to bundle up and eat outside this year, the 17% of people who said they're going to open windows and increase ventilation at the Thanksgiving table, the 38% who aren't mixing it up with any other households this Thursday, or the 19% who canceled their turkey dinner plans, know that you're doing a good thing for your country, and that the sacrifice won't last forever.

"2021 is going to be a much, much better year," Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University's school of public health, told Insider.

"My best guess is sometime late summer to fall [2021], you can spend time with somebody else and not feel that anxiety that we all feel right now. It's less than a year away."

About our polling: SurveyMonkey Audience polls from a national sample balanced by age and gender. Our polling data collected 1,110 respondents surveyed on November 21 and 22. All polls carried approximately a 3% margin of error.
 
Can someone explain to me how the Black Lives Matter "protests" were totally okay, with hundreds to thousands of people, shoulder to shoulder, screaming and sweating all over each other, but me having thanksgiving dinner with 10 people is dangerous and forbidden?
They can't, which is why they haven't, and why they won't.
Shut up and stop asking logical questions bigot, wear a mask and stay at home, if it wasn't for you the pandemic would have been over months ago.
 
I have a bottle of Angel's Envy Rye I'm saving until either the lockdowns are lifted, or I hit 40.

I have until 2022 to crack it open if the lockdowns aren't lifted.
 
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Maybe they should have shut 99.9% of everything down back in March for two weeks . They half-assed the whole shut down thing.
#1 The WHO, who totally isn't on the CCP's payroll didn't acknowledge human to human transmission was possible until March 6 even though Taiwan had suggested it back in November and proven it in December.

#2 You can't quarantine a virus out of existence from a population and anyone who believes this needs to stop saying they believe in science.

#3 The purpose of the lockdowns was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That never happened and both Washington and New York state quitely disassembled their overflow hospitals back in May without serving a single patient.
 
#3 The purpose of the lockdowns was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. That never happened and both Washington and New York state quitely disassembled their overflow hospitals back in May without serving a single patient.
It's really fucking funny how that was forgotten within two weeks. It's almost like they were trying everything they could to get their foot in the door.
 
I spent my Thanksgiving with family I haven't seen in nearly a year. Gave them all a big hug, and played with my soon to be three year old niece the entire time I spent with them. It was great.

Must be really lonely for people who choose not to participate over this whole thing.
 
There's no way they aren't going to tell everyone to skip Easter again, or hell, St. Patrick's day even before that.
The mayor of Savannah has pretty much said that recently:
He even says officials are beginning to seriously consider the safety risks of holding major events like the Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade and St. Patrick’s Day in the coming months.
That city can't handle missing two St Patrick's in a row. I was visiting there last month and the tourist areas were like a ghost town after 8pm. I don't see how some of those businesses are still open.
 
You know, I don’t agree with TLS very often, but I have to admit that he nailed it with this one. If this had started from Day 1 with “here’s some good Common Sense precautions, this is worse than your normal flu so please be extra careful”, most people probably would have been on board. No one wants to get sick, and I like to believe most people don’t want to make other people sick.
Turning it into a political issue broke it, and the hypocrisy completely shattered any potential of getting some sort of unity at this point.
When you have so called doctors scream about wanting to lock down the country for health and safety write a woke letter about not using the virus as an excuse to stop BLM rioting, then it's fucked. Politicisation of this virus fucked all confidence in government and medical institutions, as well as lowered (how?) opinions of journalists even more. I don't trust a fucking thing coming from these doctors and medical professionals. It's beyond politicised and has tainted my view on them for a long time going forward.
 
I have a bottle of Angel's Envy Rye I'm saving until either the lockdowns are lifted, or I hit 40.

I have until 2022 to crack it open if the lockdowns aren't lifted.
Good shit. Might save my bonded McKenna for something similar.
 
These clowns should have known people were over the scamdemic after the 4th of July fire work display over LA

It was a giant fuck you to Gavin Newsome.

This was the best part of my 4th. It happening in LA almost made me consider Cali redeemable, almost.
 
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