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Julian's little story got a laugh out of me.
Hard to believe there was a time when he could only ever take us to the store.
 
"I'm a lost cause professionally until the end of time because of this", I'm not sure it's accurate. I'm sure he feels it that way though.
I find a way to look at statements like this is to consider that there's a kernel of truth being stretched out. Professional in the sense to we layman doesn't really track - dude could still get a normie job without much trouble. He's done a lot of admirable work to keep his actual name from being associated with all this shit, so I don't imagine some boomer employer looking for a coder is gonna find out anything unfortunate. That generates stable income, and you still obviously have time to work on projects on the side even with a 40. Particularly since so many jobs are work-from-home, and the reality is that if you're sharp, you can get the work done with faster and move back on to creative pursuits - well, yeah, that'd be the dream goal for someone who wants to support themselves, their loved ones, and still achieve creatively without being completely at the mercy of a fickle entertainment industry. For the layman, I think it's hard to understand his position as a result.

But there likely is some truth there in that the way he may want his own career to stretch out has been in some ways closed off. The bad blood with vindictive personalities who have a wide reach in an entertainment sphere that is largely concentrated in one region of the world, which has a bad habit of being cliquey - yeah, that can make it difficult to navigate the goal of being an indie game dev. Trying even just anonymously (or pseudonymously, which is why I suspect he wants to retire his moniker) to get involved in smaller projects, word might spread and someone might try to get their fingers in to create drama. Trying to work for a professional studio - one that's either indie or AAA or somewhere between - could lead to people dredging up shit to try to present to management, either during the hiring process or afterwards, to brand the guy as a toxic asset. This might seem extreme, but this is why many porn artists (like Julian) who take a day job or move on to bigger and better things make a habit of scrubbing their traces as best they can from the internet.

Assuming this is loosely what he referred to, you can see how having had bizarre life-long stalkers as well as a traumatic upbringing that engenders a certain paranoia and innate distrust of others can lead to this being difficult to shake. For a lot of people, they get through these kinds of complexes 'naturally' by more organically achieving their goals and feeling a sense of agency - hence the issue. Games take a while to develop, and even hitting milestones may not actually feel like you're doing anything - especially if you're doing so on the back of peoples' donations, obligation may override any sense of development or pride in it. And so it can be easy to get stuck into a gummy, repetitive sequence of fighting off your demons before they crawl back up -- hence why I think this mental tangle, of which I can only see from the outside, may need outside help to un-do.

Something else to consider is in returning to the idea of getting a 'normie' job and continuing to produce art you want to besides. The reality is, artists who do this rarely are the ones you see that get immediate recognition. There is an element of jealousy definitely there when you look at the people who tend to make it - well-off (if not quite rich) families, abundant training when they're young, ample opportunity, convenient geographics, etc etc and there's a desire to emulate their ability to spend all of their productive hours... essentially doing what they love. For some people, that's just not possible and just not sustainable - though there's plenty of examples throughout history of folks that nevertheless make due. I happen to like this story, to that end. Game development is definitely a bitch because it necessarily demands so much time and work, and there's a sort of rigid prison there - if the dream is to make games, well, the current route there seems to be to take patreon money and dev on your own time. But that leads to the risk of unstable income and the stress of feeling uncertain obligation, etc etc. Nevertheless, it might be worth considering a 'next step' if the current moment feels unsustainable.

tl;dr: The behavior is understandable from what we know, but understandable isn't really the goal. Nor does that make it less, say, offputting or unproductive. Getting a shrink - or adjusting life to get a normie job for the increased security it offers - could be potential outs. While it's probably true that some professional bridges are burned, even if we go to the extreme and assume that all professional bridges are burned, it isn't as if he's out of avenues through which to continue making art/games he wants to.
I know it is retarded to ask, but does he really mean "libs" as in liberals?
My guess is that he reads more of the site than just this particular thread, despite saying otherwise, because trainwrecks are fun to look at. I don't necessarily mind politisperging in the designated retard areas, but a lot of threads have gotten to the point of unreadability because you'll get people politisperging in them.
 
I don't understand what DingDong means when he says he's been blacklisted. Blacklisted from what? The indie game industry?
I figured he means any potential talent in the LA area that could work alongside him, he could work for, or even publish Wan Wan Games software. It's likely that even bigtime indie game devs and publishers, particularly LA-bound ones, would refuse to work with someone that would dare be so homophobic that they shittalk the wholesome homo game.

Honestly, at this point, I can't fault DD at all for being as emotionally unstable as he seems to be. Like he's definitely said and done some dumb things, like he really has a bad habit of feeding trolls but I can't help but cut him some slack. Dude just wants to stream and make a cool game while also making people laugh but finds past events catching up to him just because people can't seem to leave that shit alone. I truly hope he moves on from this soon and stops responding to people that hassle him so much about shit. They can just watch this stream if they're curious.

He's not lolcow worthy, though. If he is anything, it's a sadcow but even then it's not enough for a thread here. He's moronic at times, as a victim complex at times when it's not warranted (he definitely is the victim when it comes to shit like Matt Wattson's and several others' betrayal, abusive mother, and fucking stalker of all things, but trolling he seems to bring to himself by always feeding them) but he's talented and funny guy who has the potential to be on his way up.
 
why does he have a problem with it now? If my memory serves me right, during the Dream Daddy thing, Ding Dong threads came up in /trash/ and /v/ and people spoke about him mostly on /trash/. I think we found out about his tuba vore shit through /trash/. Anyways, he knew about the threads and unironically started talking to us in a few of his streams (the streams were when the new crash game came out) and he spoke with us mostly. People made ship porn art of him and Julian and they liked it.

Lol. Funny thing about this is that a lot of people on 4chan believed most of it was ding dong starting all the threads to bash him. I remember julian came on once too in a /v/ thread.
It's probably because there is very much activity in those past threads of people wanting to dox or trying to reveal his real name and shit but you're right in that there were also some very le epic wholesome rebbit moments where people just drew fanart. The thing is, he exagerrates so much. The way he characterises the trolls in these threads makes them out to be rabid psychopaths, when in reality they're like everyone else on the internet, they're hunched over a computer with a drink in hand, having a laugh while typing oodles of retarded shit. The archives for /trash/ are still there, all the way back to early 2017 when there started to be regular threads about OneyPlays/him. I've been going through them just to see if they were really like what he says they were, and they just... weren't. The /v/ threads might be more vicious, but I really doubt it. I assume there was a lot more shitposting around them because >ecelebs more than anything.

Also he mentions us right at the end. "Kiwifarms would be like: libs!"

But would we be wrong, Dingey lad?
He mentioned KF a little earlier as well. If you pop back before the Shadman discussion - I think it might be around 45mins - 1 hour into that second partial VOD. Just the usual "wow kiwifarmers you're definitely not hateful pieces of shit who want to kill trannies huh, so brave for posting anonymously and i bet you all don't have skeletons in your own closets, pathetic, incels, wa wa wa." And sure, he's right that there is plenty of schizos on KF, but the majority again is that it's a website full of harmless faggots who like to gossip and say mean words like NIGGER uncensored.

The whole thing is so weird, going off about those darn evil anti-sjws and how cancel culture isn't real followed by "anyway, my life is ruined forever because of that time sjws cancelled me for disliking their stereotype game".
I didn't actually realize that at the time but yeah that's fucking funny. I don't think it's a stretch to say being cancelled and being blacklisted are near interchangeable nowadays, right? So him going on about how he's definitely blacklisted after providing critical opinions (which were his own opinions as well as those of coworkers) of a game is really ironic.

Huge agree on this.
I always liked Julian but I thought he was the weird one of the group.
Turns out he's overall pretty well adjusted and is a lot better at handling his emotions and these situations than DD. His weirdness seems to be totally relegated to the realm of fiction.
Some of the stories they told about how people treated Julian makes me wonder how he became the "stable" one of the two. They spoke about how Julian would show people things like his demo reels or recent commissions and they would laugh in his face (probably similar to how Oney did without the follow up of "but it's literally REALLY GOOD and i'm not just making fun of it"). Plus his childhood was similarly shitty from what the vent comics he drew on Tumblr showed. Seems he just knows how to handle being made fun of and shat on all the time better than DingDong does.

I think DingDong's decision to refund is the strongest way he could make the point that in no way what so ever he wants Matt's money. Giving the donation to charity is still in some way accepting the money. Matt Watson is the definition of the self centered LA bugman.
I think that's retarded. If anything, having those gift subs let him let loose about Matt which was worth it in itself. Once the payout (not sure how gift subs and Twitch shit works) actually hits his bank, he could just send that money back over. It doesn't have to be the full amount of 150 * 5 dollar like they were trying to calculate, just whatever actually comes from it.

I figured he means any potential talent in the LA area that could work alongside him, he could work for, or even publish Wan Wan Games software. It's likely that even bigtime indie game devs and publishers, particularly LA-bound ones, would refuse to work with someone that would dare be so homophobic that they shittalk the wholesome homo game.

He's not lolcow worthy, though. If he is anything, it's a sadcow but even then it's not enough for a thread here. He's moronic at times, as a victim complex at times when it's not warranted (he definitely is the victim when it comes to shit like Matt Wattson's and several others' betrayal, abusive mother, and fucking stalker of all things, but trolling he seems to bring to himself by always feeding them) but he's talented and funny guy who has the potential to be on his way up.
I understand why the Dream Daddy stuff caused such a huge backlash, but at the same time, DD has never been dishonest about his feelings on some games and the industry at large. Even if there wasn't an immediate reaction to his comments, surely all the haha funny things he's said about things like Night in the Woods and even (not that he has any power or relevance) Revolution 60 would come back to haunt him.

Agree on the sadcow. I would actually like to hear from Durgers (Dvergers, Dergers?), Darkgamer, PsychoJosh to learn why they're so obsessed with DingDong though I doubt it would be anything of substance. The former apparently (DD's words) wanted people to pay him for DIRT on DingDong so he might just be dumb. Not sure on Darkgamer but the latter seems to be a little more notorious for being some stupid SA goon.
 
Apparently Matt Watson dropped by on that 12 hour stream. Also apparently Chris also called up DD afterwards.
Did Ding Dong mention Chris calling him afterwards? Could you share a time stamp?

I know most here are rightfully more concerned with Ding Dong's melodrama but this just reinforces my disdain for Game Grumps and all that adjacent LA scene. There's no other way to describe them than as bug men. These fucking grifters have some self congratulatory visual novel game that just exploits its purported intended audience. When someone who works for them (and is literally gay) has a problem with this, they cut all ties and stand aside when their degenerate fan base doxxes and outs the guy to his family. Never mind the fact that the entire Grump brand is fucking gross in of itself. They try and project all this wholesome uwu parasocial shit meanwhile they're all a bunch of sex perverts with a primarily either young or mentally ill (or both) fanbase.

Meanwhile le "racist" and "homophobic" former Newgrounds gremlins like OneyNG actually sticks with his friends and continues to check upon them. This also ignores other stupid shit like the fags at Super Mega doing coward passive aggressive shit like constantly throwing shade at Jon Tron.
 
I'm glad Julian's with him. This is a rough time of year to be going through so much shit. I bet this was a last straw kind of... breakdown? That seems a little extreme, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Life just piles on sometimes.
 
"We literally can't forgive anyone who defended Shadman"

1:20:00


Does that mean good and real guy™️ Ricepirate "I love all my fwends" Mick Lauer is on their shit list?

Seriously, I can't believe how stupid Mick is for sticking up for a pedophile.
 
Did Ding Dong mention Chris calling him afterwards? Could you share a time stamp?

I know most here are rightfully more concerned with Ding Dong's melodrama but this just reinforces my disdain for Game Grumps and all that adjacent LA scene. There's no other way to describe them than as bug men. These fucking grifters have some self congratulatory visual novel game that just exploits its purported intended audience. When someone who works for them (and is literally gay) has a problem with this, they cut all ties and stand aside when their degenerate fan base doxxes and outs the guy to his family. Never mind the fact that the entire Grump brand is fucking gross in of itself. They try and project all this wholesome uwu parasocial shit meanwhile they're all a bunch of sex perverts with a primarily either young or mentally ill (or both) fanbase.

Meanwhile le "racist" and "homophobic" former Newgrounds gremlins like OneyNG actually sticks with his friends and continues to check upon them. This also ignores other stupid shit like the fags at Super Mega doing coward passive aggressive shit like constantly throwing shade at Jon Tron.
Still bothers me that people didn't see the game as anything but exploitative is baffling. As a half faggot, I felt like these retards were using homosexuality as a product to sell. But then again, the same people who were set on defending it are either the worst kind of faggot, a woman, or a fujoshitter.

I hope Matt's karma comes back real soon, and if it does, Ryan doesn't get affected because he's the only fucking normal human being in that circle of people. Dude deserves the best and I'm glad he's still on good terms with DD and J.

Then again, that karma was probably losing 61k for being a retard.
 
All that said, I really do hope DD eventually saves up enough to get decent therapy. Clearly what his mother and the Game Grumps retards have done is permanent damage. The rape is extremely saddening too and that can break anybody.
Wait... what?
I'm sure the Alex channel might upload their own recording of the 23rd's stream But I'll go through the order he said it (and how I remember) given DingDong's habit of bringing up a single nugget of information and sometime later he gives a little more information on it. I'll also add that Alex's upload of the 22nd stream seems to be the ~6th-10th hour of the 11 hour stream. I'm probably going to fuzz something up because I'm bound to get mixed up given that my last few days have just been holiday stuff and watching streams and it just blurs together.

21st - 22nd Stream (Pre Recording)
About three hours in DingDong brought up that he had a trauma when he was 4 years old and didn't elaborate much from there.

22nd Stream (During and After Recording)
Dingdong starts discussing about the weight that was lifted off of his chest disconnecting with his mother and the subject floats in and out. The important highlight is that at some point she said he "deserved what happened to him."

23rd Stream
He brought up the trauma he had some point early on once again and simply said 'it was done by a 15 year old" and how his mom didn't help him out, then when he told the school about "it" they didn't believe him either and said he needed to accept responsibility for it. I'm sure that's a shortened or paraphrased version of what the school did say and it falls in line with the way he grew up in rich suburb Chicago with a lot of shitty people acting in favor of their connections - but he only brought that up to to frame the fact that no authority figure tried helping him about his mom until (senior year?) of high school after some faculty saw his mom beat him out of the car. He later just plainly stated "[Ugh] I'll just say it, it was rape and the 15 year old didn't even get in trouble for it. Nooooo I was the one that had to accept responsibility for that".

So yeah, imagine being victim blamed from ages 4 to ~30 for that and trying to grow up or function normally. This makes me think of what he said some stream months ago where he explained he's "only pessimistic because [he's] seen the worst in people."
 
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Just to stop bringing up shadman on my part. At minute 40:00 on that 2 hour DingDong vod, they tell the story of a shitty room mate whom took 13 months to move out and was a complete loser who played anime fighting games. At the end of it, they say that the guy sent them a cartoon of DingDong dressed up as a Nazi.

Was that room mate shadman?
 
fascinating reading... really enjoy all the armchair stuff about dingdong.

some stuff about DD frustates or annoys me at times but never to where i feel trollish towards him or would consider him a lolcow.

to me he's like that friend who you want to see succeed and get/be happy but you know they just need to figure their own shit out, and no amount of you telling them to get their shit together will make a difference so you can just either accept them as they are or else keep a distance.
 
some stuff about DD frustates or annoys me at times but never to where i feel trollish towards him or would consider him a lolcow.

Those are the moments where he goes political or when he goes "ally lgbtq fwend". In his "rant" about Kiwi Farms he legit says that "you Kiwi Farmers are afraid of others in your community. Show those pecs misters, you people are cowards that hide under an avatar. It's like what happened with Chris Chan and when the site went down". It's like he really thinks the site is like Reddit and Kiwi Farmers are autistic "fwends" whose "community" is based on gay ops. It isn't, and he just looks like an idiot that dances to the same retarded tune that the alphabet creeps and journos love to spread.

"If you wish death on an LGBTQ person I don't want to know anything about you. You're a horrible person and piece of shit". Not even the groomers and pedophiles that is plagued with? or are those people part of the "community" too?

Seriously, it's so annoying when these emotionally weak people want to defend their little group but in the heat of things ignore the shit that's been there since the beginning.
 
Those are the moments where he goes political or when he goes "ally lgbtq fwend". In his "rant" about Kiwi Farms he legit says that "you Kiwi Farmers are afraid of others in your community. Show those pecs misters, you people are cowards that hide under an avatar. It's like what happened with Chris Chan and when the site went down". It's like he really thinks the site is like Reddit and Kiwi Farmers are autistic "fwends" whose "community" is based on gay ops. It isn't, and he just looks like an idiot that dances to the same retarded tune that the alphabet creeps and journos love to spread.

"If you wish death on an LGBTQ person I don't want to know anything about you. You're a horrible person and piece of shit". Not even the groomers and pedophiles that is plagued with? or are those people part of the "community" too?

Seriously, it's so annoying when these emotionally weak people want to defend their little group but in the heat of things ignore the shit that's been there since the beginning.
this message seems like a misrepresentation of his position because hes mostly an anti-sjw type but gay
 
It's fucking autistic of me to admit but my first thought when I saw this was a sponsored video is "God, I hope they aren't as obnoxiously fake about their praise like Game Grumps were when they did that sponsored Assassin's Creed video". Still felt like a normal OneyPlays episode tbh.

If WB Interactive has noticed the boys, they would do well to keep their names on speed dial should Hitman 4 ever happen. Their Hitman 2 series wasn't even sponsored and they still sold me on it
WB only published Hitman 2 in an edge case to help out IO but now they self-publish Oney should get a free code for that James Bond game
 
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