Plagued Onion Farms and other KF Splinter Sites - Watch Kiwi Farms members slapfighting in this thread

I'm interested on how this will all turn out. People are now openly discussing a splinter forum and Null's already not happy about it. Guess it's another ban wave, I wonder who gets done in besides those already banned and the obvious crossposters.
Jihadi Joshua will get pissed and ban more shitposters, which means OF will get more regulars, which means more content for the thread and thus more shitposting done deliberately to piss off Jihadi Joshua.

A vicious and very autistic cycle that ensures that the thread will thrive.
 
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Lol, you were the type who was afraid to call @Arm Pit Cream and @SIGSEGV faggots when they were actually being faggots (which was all the time btw) but now the bad men have gone you peek your head up and say *faggots
lol the majority of what Sig did here was shitpost, which was fine. His last post and the federal fallout from it was funny. What's faggoty is running to Onion farms like a little girl to drop the shitposter facade cry about being banned.

I ignored APC's ragebait blog articles too, I didn't pay much attention to him until he tism swan songed himself by emailing the mod of a forum with a list of like 50+ posts from a singular day in a singular thread listing whether or not they're talking about jews in them for each post and writing a paragraph demanding to have his forum account back within minutes of being banned. That's pretty funny.

JULAY'ing is a natural part of the forum life cycle.
 
Jihadi Joshua will get pissed and ban more shitposters, which means OF will get more regulars, which means more content for the thread and thus more shitposting done deliberately to piss off Jihadi Joshua.

A vicious and very autistic cycle that ensures that the thread will thrive.
You do realize Null can just delete this thread? He's not obligated to keep it up and I doubt he'd care if more users left if this thread got deleted. There can be no martyrs if the living can't speak the words of the dead. That being said, you are mostly right, this won't easily go away unless either site falls. I'd be both saddened and amused if Onion Farms ends up overtaking Kiwi Farms as the place to talk about strange people on the internet.
 
The hilarious part for me in regards to the Onion Farms is having watched Null's MATI about Kengle, and realizing that was almost two years ago, and this damn site is still up despite Kengle's ADD level of care. And that's not to mention Kengle allowed a fucking fedposter, SIGSEGV, to be a top admin of the site.
 
P.S. Splinter sites have existed since before I even took over the forum. When I was setting up the forum in 2012, there was a potential split between this one and something set up by three people who had just been banned.

The Kiwi Farms has a 'monopoly' on Internet Drama (outside of shitholes like Guru Gossiper which are so low IQ there are threads for users who are married to inmates) because I'm one of the only people in the world who is able and willing to deal with the complaint volume and technical hardships. It's not just people like Vordrak. I get DMCAs every single day and I have to put my address on every counter-DMCA I make. I get complaints about revenge porn, emails from EU countries about racist content, complaints from Roskomnadzor, complaints from people to me, complaints from people to CF, complaints from people to my host (me, now).

You could say "We'll make our splinter better, stabler, and cheaper by avoiding those problems!" - well, good luck. You're going to be deleting a lot of content. Anything copyrighted that Kengle doesn't want to dox himself to counter (art, photos, writing, anything). Anything pornographic that a person could make a reasonable argument to a host that it's revenge porn. Anything political.

At that point, you're better off just making your site private. Well if you do that, you've crippled your site's growth. A ton of users find the site from search results. Being private means that natural growth won't come. A lot of people directed to a post will simply bounce if it's closed off. In my own investigations, I've found that most people lurk as a guest for 6 months before registering to post.

You could stay public and just moderate heavily to stay online, but then you've also crippled your site's growth. Why would people pick Site A if Site B exists, is bigger, and allows more content? They'd only pick Site A if they had a problem with Site B, and the people who have a problem with Site B are a small group - many of whom are problem users, and won't exactly make Site A a better place than Site B.

Someone brought up Something Awful, but you can look at SA and places like SS and see that SS didn't exactly thrive. It existed, it served a purpose, and then it folded into the Kiwi Farms. A lot of users here are here because they came over during SA / SS drama. SA is still up. Lowtax is gone, but the community is still there. If you want to grow a community you can't just have your community be "like X, but betterer."


My real advice to you guys is to have Kengle's name on everything to be your legal buffer, have someone else manage literally every other aspect of the community, and avoid dox. Just completely avoid dox and have a small, insulated group of people that can safely play video games on their main steam accounts. That is something which I cannot give people because the site is naturally hostile and has constant external pressure. I can only organize community games for things like OpenTTD and Space Station 13, where there are no real accounts involved.
 
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You're doing a funny haha controlled opposition right?
by already answering the question of "why there isn't a better kiwifarms", by having Onion Farms to point to and laugh discourages competition and keeps a vice like grip on the utters on that sweet lolcow milk. GENIUS
the site is owned by kengle and is driftwood waiting to wash up on shore at a moment's notice, but it's a good time to show people the realities of hosting this site. It's been stable for two years now, and many people really don't understand how much shit I had to eat, how much work I had to put in, how bad things got, and how much of my personal life and income I had to sacrifice for literally nothing - not even a promise that things would get better -, just because I liked the forum and wanted it to continue to exist, and believed it should have a right to exist. The last major incident was on 8/19, when ColoCrossing threw our shit into a box and I had to overnight it, and 10/19, when we got hacked and the most recent active users had their emails leaked.

I don't have animus for any of these people. I understand they're angry and want the Kiwi Farms to be XYZ and since it's not they want to figure something else out. It happens every few years.
 
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