Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

In all seriousness, the technology-interested women I know think people like Coraline Ada are regressing the cause and making people less tolerant of women and other minorities in programming.

Funny enough, all the female devs I've worked with think Ada is pretty horrible. Mostly because they're busy actually doing work and because they're not actually "victims". There is a growing minority of junior female devs however, that not only agree with Ada, but expect their careers to be handed to them on a silver platter.... its not going to end well.
 
What I love about cows like Ada is that they never go away. If they have power, they spend time crowing about how they're kicking out all those mean old cishet white men from the tech industry. When they don't have power, they go on long, hilarious rants like that one.
Ada doesn’t have any power beyond shrieking like a loon on twitter and stamping his hoofs when he doesn’t get his way. He’s been in and out of jobs over the last 5+ years because he’s mentally unstable and keeps finding new opportunities due to his connections not because of any coding skills or recognition of contributions to the community.

His only big project is the horrible code of conduct he keeps trying to enforce on communities. He’s making it more difficult for trans people who just want to contribute or code without drawing attention to their identity because it means nothing to a project.
 
r*ils community is at it again
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I googled the terms and it's clear the connotations of white/black by far proceed American racism. However they might go back to biblical times (holy light vs darkness) and racism certainly existed then (also: mark of Cain?)

Words don't have to be constrained by their etymology though, as meanings change over time, like grammar to glamour. Better to spend your time helping minority students get into coding than to argue over semantics.
 
Have you examined your foss privilege?

https://toot.cafe/@sivy/100593885080927092
The juicy bits of the medium article that's linked in that link:
THE SOCIAL IMPLICATIONS
When a white man is in charge of a project and responsible for every final decision, even if he is the best listener and is super accommodating, every decision he makes will be biased towards the experiences of a white man and the privileges that entails.

The pushback he is so hurt by getting from the community of marginalised and vulnerable people when making a decision that benefits him and hurts them is a fraction of the abuse that people of colour, disabled people, queer people, women, etc. have to deal with on a constant basis. And still every decision is oriented to his experiences, without empathy.

He is trying to make a competitor to Twitter, that he proudly proclaims bans nazis, and he is another white man at the top of a hierarchy, dismissing those whose needs and experiences have been neglected by Twitter, the people he claimed to want to protect.

None of this will change until he shares some of the power over his project with people of colour, women, and other marginalised groups who are vulnerable when they speak up online.

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THE LACK OF APPRECIATION FOR HARD WORK
In the last few weeks, I have made a UI suggestion with a mock-up and one without, and Gargron implemented both, but he didn’t acknowledge me or reply to me or thank me for my contributions at any point. He just did it. When I mentioned this on Mastodon, someone replied and said exactly what I was expecting — that working on open source projects is a thankless job and that’s just how it is, it’s the culture, get used to it. (I did also get a lot of grateful and kind and supportive replies, to be fair.)

When he does that he effectively takes the credit for others’ work. If he doesn’t mention that it was someone else’s, I will assume an idea was his.

For all my work on the issue list and in helping to improve the UI, I will never be acknowledged in release notes. You only get an acknowledgement or gratitude if you can code, no matter what else you do and how you contribute.

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THE POWER PLAY
If we ask for features that help us and our admins to protect us we are told that if we want it that badly we should “fork” — Github issue list speak for “duplicate the entire project, code the features you want, and run it yourself.” Gargron says it, Gargron’s supporters say it. It’s realistic for them, because they have been coding for years. For a lot of them it’s their day job.

It’s a power play, because we wouldn’t be so desperate if we could code it ourselves — they have all the power and we have to beg them to help us. And they could help us, but they get to decide whether or not we get the features we need.

They are entirely capable of duplicating the project and making the features they want, but if we wanted to do that we would have to pay someone. The financial cost would be significant, and in order to keep the code maintained with new updates from the main project we would have to keep paying. For most people this is just not sustainable.

There are forks of Mastodon that could be willing to code and add features for us, but those are run by individuals or groups of friends — Bea, the developer of the glitch.social fork, says that people who object to Gargron’s management of things and want a more democratic project won’t find what they need with glitch.
 
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. . .he's probably competent and is in charge because he knows what he's doing.

And even if it is a transexual demi-queer disabled black Muslim, I wouldn't give a shit, so long as they are competent and don't start retarded drama.

As long as they just bust their ass doing actual coding and don't start any SJW shit, they would get no disrespect from me on a code project we'd be working on.

That's all anyone who just wants to collaborate on a coding project with any work ethic has ever wanted.

Note those words: "work ethic"

Guess what the people who obsess over this PC shit don't have.
 
Ugghhh they pretty much ignore what this guy said. But in a way, DHH does have a point, using something like blocklist and allowlist is less ambiguous about what they're for. But its fucking shit that it gets framed as a "black people might be offended" sort of problem.
From an absolutely pragmatic point of view, blacklist has been around the English language for a long time. Any foreign contributors can easily translate the term and likely infer the meaning of whitelist in doing so. Not so with allowlist and denylist, not even taking into account that denylist will be spellchecked into denialist depending on the dictionary.
 
Not so with allowlist and denylist, not even taking into account that denylist will be spellchecked into denialist depending on the dictionary.

That's a pretty fantastic point. I guess the real question now is why DHH is doing this in the first place, he sorta doesn't really strike me as someone who just makes decisions for no reason.... but here we are, changing blacklist/whitelist with no real apparent consultation with the people its supposed to "exclude".
 
That's a pretty fantastic point. I guess the real question now is why DHH is doing this in the first place, he sorta doesn't really strike me as someone who just makes decisions for no reason.... but here we are, changing blacklist/whitelist with no real apparent consultation with the people its supposed to "exclude".
Social Justice is hell of a drug.
 

If we ask for features that help us and our admins to protect us we are told that if we want it that badly we should “fork” — Github issue list speak for “duplicate the entire project, code the features you want, and run it yourself.” Gargron says it, Gargron’s supporters say it. It’s realistic for them, because they have been coding for years. For a lot of them it’s their day job.

It’s a power play, because we wouldn’t be so desperate if we could code it ourselves — they have all the power and we have to beg them to help us. And they could help us, but they get to decide whether or not we get the features we need.

They are entirely capable of duplicating the project and making the features they want, but if we wanted to do that we would have to pay someone. The financial cost would be significant, and in order to keep the code maintained with new updates from the main project we would have to keep paying. For most people this is just not sustainable.

There are forks of Mastodon that could be willing to code and add features for us, but those are run by individuals or groups of friends — Bea, the developer of the glitch.social fork, says that people who object to Gargron’s management of things and want a more democratic project won’t find what they need with glitch.

"Make things for me without pay or thanks, or I'll stamp my little feet :mad:"
Is this entitlement? Or is it only entitlement when it's someone they don't like?

Also lmao these fags can't even code, why are people even giving them the time of day?
 
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