Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

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Secret Asshole said:
Enjoy your shit getting ruined open source people. I don't exactly know how to make open source shit unprofitable to drive people out, so uhhh....enjoy being flooded with untalented, mentally ill sociopaths, cat-ladies, thirsty betas and absolutely 0 people of color. Oh, and troons. Lots and lots of troons.

My guess is let everyone talented leave and let them have it. They'll rip each other apart in about 6 months to a year and you can get it back. Because if they have no one to go after, they'll just do it to each other and destroy themselves.
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All open source projects are run by someone. There's someone with a username and a password, and they own the project on where ever it's being held.

If you don't like someone, you can tell them to fuck off. They have the option to fork your code, but most of the time, when people fork code over politics, the person who's the most offended is probably a fuckup and their project will crash and burn on its own. See: ayo.js.
CrunkLord420 said:
Luke Smith had some interesting commentary about the Linux CoC. He pushed this idea of being "white pilled" and not caring, thinking that SJWism as a whole will collapse from invading too many sub-cultures.
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Yeah, I think he and I are on the same page as what I said above. He didn't say this explicitly, and I can't imagine he'd disagree with me, but I think people should be a little more proactive when starting and managing open source projects from now on. (And in forking them.)

Basically organization matters. Names and project ownership matter. If it's a small project, be sure to maintain control over everything. Think about this ahead of time, instead of having to scramble to boot out the sjws after the fact. They're like termites.

And if it's a big project, hell, start a commercial side to it as well. Go the docker or gitlab approach, with an open source core and commercial support / enterprise features.

In that case, most big companies would probably just pay you for services. The community can contribute and still use the open source version. You can use the money from the business to support the community, hire some contributors, set bug bounties, etc. And most importantly: you can maintain the integrity of the project with it.
 
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Ruby creator Yukihiro Matsumoto complaining about SJWs (kinda surprised they even have a translation of it) https://twitter.com/yukihiro_matz/status/1041471542356398080 (https://archive.fo/pS4KC)
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CrunkLord420 said:
Luke Smith had some interesting commentary about the Linux CoC. He pushed this idea of being "white pilled" and not caring, thinking that SJWism as a whole will collapse from invading too many sub-cultures.
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If there's a silver lining to all this it's the fact that forking has stopped projects from companies attempts to shut them down, with the OpenOffice and LibreOffice saga being the best example of this. Devs jump ship and the original project stagnates or if it's canned completely (OpenSolaris and illumos) devs will just move there.

The only issue with forking Linux is how many lines of code it has, compared to some of the BSDs or other "simpler *nix like" OSes. It's got tons of blobs and corporate contributions already. It's one of the same reasons why some people are moving away from GCC for compilers towards LLVM/Clang (plus the fact they have more permissive licenses).
 
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TwitterHashtag said:
Unlike other threads where I laugh from a distance, this stuff is uncomfortably close to home. I wish programming didn’t become the defacto millennial career option.

People have asked me how to get into the field because they have an agenda, not because of any actual interest. Nobody I know has gotten that far but you some times have the Zoe Quinn types that do.
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Damn --- this 10 thousand times.
 
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I think i saw someone said to me in IRC that the CoC only want you to be nice with other people, but doesnt say anything about accepting the shitty code that any of those clowns make, so in the end the thing is going to be like this

1)Shitty code by a troon is proposed
2)Code is reviewed, is shit
3)Contribution is denied
4) If the hambeast complain just say "it doesnt work"
5)Close the thread, wipe your CoC three times

There, if they scream you can say "we politely declined because it doesnt meet our standards"
 
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Cubanodun said:
I think i saw someone said to me in IRC that the CoC only want you to be nice with other people, but doesnt say anything about accepting the shitty code that any of those clowns make, so in the end the thing is going to be like this

1)Shitty code by a troon is proposed
2)Code is reviewed, is shit
3)Contribution is denied
4) If the hambeast complain just say "it doesnt work"
5)Close the thread, wipe your CoC three times

There, if they scream you can say "we politely declined because it doesnt meet our standards"
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Perhaps, but the CoC can be stretched to also allow for scenarios like:

-Run a OSS project
-Tranny raises issue stating that after some sleuthing it discovers one of your top contributors posts on kiwi
-You refuse to remove him, as he's an actual asset and swats bugs and provides high-quality PRs
-Trannys get mad and say that you're also a bigot
-Verge/Ars/Polygon/Motherboard open a broadside salvo on your project stating it's literally nazi/sexist/murdering troons in their sleep

And you become a pariah.
 
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Cubanodun said:
I think i saw someone said to me in IRC that the CoC only want you to be nice with other people, but doesnt say anything about accepting the shitty code that any of those clowns make, so in the end the thing is going to be like this

1)Shitty code by a troon is proposed
2)Code is reviewed, is shit
3)Contribution is denied
4) If the hambeast complain just say "it doesnt work"
5)Close the thread, wipe your CoC three times

There, if they scream you can say "we politely declined because it doesnt meet our standards"
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The code merges is less of a concern than kicking out people who have slightly edgy humor on twitter (OpalGate), donate to the wrong political group (Brendan Eich), having the wrong political opinion (Rod Vagg, James Damore), or just abrasive and autistic (Linus Torvalds). Maybe they just don't like you and are looking for an excuse (Larry Garfield).

The CoC is not about creating a civil and professional space, it's a political weapon. This isn't a secret, you can see it's plainly described by Caroline Ada.
 
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CrunkLord420 said:
The code merges is less of a concern than kicking out people who have slightly edgy humor on twitter (OpalGate), donate to the wrong political group (Brendan Eich), having the wrong political opinion (Rod Vagg, James Damore), or just abrasive and autistic (Linus Torvalds). Maybe they just don't like you and are looking for an excuse (Larry Garfield).

The CoC is not about creating a civil and professional space, it's a political weapon. This isn't a secret, you can see it's plainly described by Caroline Ada.
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Indeed, now the main issue is the absolute fear of being branded because we know how much of a hysterical they are, what prevent a person to just outright ban a "Kill all men" dangerhair that make your project looks bad? if you ban them you are a shitlord that deserve 100 whips
 
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CrunkLord420 said:
The code merges is less of a concern than kicking out people who have slightly edgy humor on twitter (OpalGate), donate to the wrong political group (Brendan Eich), having the wrong political opinion (Rod Vagg, James Damore), or just abrasive and autistic (Linus Torvalds). Maybe they just don't like you and are looking for an excuse (Larry Garfield).

The CoC is not about creating a civil and professional space, it's a political weapon. This isn't a secret, you can see it's plainly described by Caroline Ada.
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That's why there's no place for bullshit like this. Most code monkeys are autistic on some level or another. The Chad coder is a rarity.
 
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The New Yorker (can't archive it for some reason) boasts their influence on Linus' decision:
Torvalds’s decision to step aside came after The New Yorker asked him a series of questions about his conduct for a story on complaints about his abusive behavior discouraging women from working as Linux-kernel programmers. In a response to The New Yorker, Torvalds said, “I am very proud of the Linux code that I invented and the impact it has had on the world. I am not, however, always proud of my inability to communicate well with others—this is a lifelong struggle for me. To anyone whose feelings I have hurt, I am deeply sorry.”
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The article tries to make a point about how Linus marginalizes women and minorities but it has to admit that Linus doesn't discriminate - so it ends up claiming that women are too weak to handle his rough tone:
Squire told me that she found few examples of gender bias. “He is an equal-opportunity abuser,” she said. Squire added, though, that for non-male programmers the hostility and public humiliation is more isolating. Over time, many women programmers leave the community. “Women throw in the towel first,” she told me. “They say, ‘Why do I need to put up with this?’ ”
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The author Noam Cohen seems to bitch a lot about how SV companies support free speech too much.
 
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Everyone with half a braincell can tell that these fuckos just search with a very fine comb for things to be offended about. The whole problem in itself is that if you let them in once, it never stops. It's a very well known fact that SJWs even turn on each other when there's no other target to burn at the stake. People need to get this. While I still don't think you'll suddenly find shit, non-working code in the Linux kernel made by some no-talent hack tranny that only got it in because of diversity quota, this can change the entire culture regarding open source projects and which kinds of people participate in them. It's also showing the big weakness in the ad-hoc way of development in regards to open source software.
 
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CrunkLord420 said:
Clang compiles faster, has better error messages. The actual compiled code quality isn't necessarily better.
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It's also less bloated than GCC, which tries to support more languages than just C such as Ada and Fortran. GCC does support more targets (both CPU and OS) but older OSes tend to get depreciated so you're stuck on an old version of GCC with them anyway.

garakfan69 said:
New The New Yorker (can't archive it for some reason) boasts their influence on Linus' decision:
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https://archive.fo/JAKwl
Here's an archive, for future reference if archiving fails with a network error add via.hypothes.is to the start of the url.
 
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While we are on the topic, what about musl? I've seen that cited a lot too. I'm a bit apprehensive from turning away from glibc.

One of these days I'll do an Gentoo Linux installation on my old 68040 Mac, or die trying. There I'll have to stick to the standards anyways.

Somehow I can't bring myself to be *very* worried about this. Just can't. I feel in the end it simply won't really do much either way. Some people act like Torvalds has ben ousted too, I can never ever imagine that. I might eat my hat later on regarding this but yeah.
 
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I thought they'd wait at least a week before obviously going Stalinist.

Actually, this troon piece of shit should be reported for harassment himself, since he's obviously harassing someone based on his Asian heritage.
 
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