Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

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Leech said:
It's unrelated to whole rust situation, but I've recently seen Distro Tube selling the idea that open-source software doesn't mean free of charge and somehow the audience is buying it. No idea about anyone else, but the main reason I prefer to use open-source software is because it's free of all the commercial shit, no subscription nagging or any of online-only bullshit; If you take that away then what's the difference from random propietary garbage? Furthermore this software's source is open and you can build it for free, so what will the greedy devs do to stop potential users? Hide the source code or obscure the dependencies and make the installation process absolute nightmare? What's the point of being open-source at that point?
I'll show you the video example below:
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Didn't watch the video, but yes. Open Source, and even Free & Open Source doesn't mean "free as in beer". The grsecurity patches being a huge example. Call it lame, but it's real. Aseprite is under some proprietary open source license with limited distribution rights. The dude sells it, but I just compile it for free off the AUR. No, he doesn't make the dependencies easy, but the PKGBUILD handles that.

The Aseprite guy actually wrote about it when he did the license change: https://dev.aseprite.org/2016/09/01/new-source-code-license/
 
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Per phoronix (archive)
Git 2.49 delivers faster packing via name-hash v2, a new "git backfill" tool to address any missing historical blobs, "git clone" learned to make a shallow clone for a single commit that is not necessarily at the tip of any branch, lazy-loading missing files in a blobless clone, zlib-ng support preparations, and a foreign language interface for Rust has been added to the codebase.

This first bit of Rust code within Git introduces two new Rust crates: libgit-sys and libgit. Further work on Rust code within Git is being carried out for future Git releases.
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Seems Linus is going full retard on rust.
 
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MatrixMustDie said:
Per phoronix (archive)

Seems Linus is going full retard on rust.
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Calm down they're just wrapper libraries. Rust people usually write and maintain them themselves. *-sys are usually unsafe bindings directly into the C libraries and the non-sys version is a Rust-safe RAII version (which are often shit because shoe-horning in RAII on top of C libraries is clunky and can come with lifetime ownership issues).
 
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Leech said:
To follow up on that, probably the main reason DT did this video was because for some reason he's in love with xerolinux creator who for some mind-boggling reason made his arch-based KDE theme "distro" paid. No idea how cucked you need to be in order to buy this, but some did indeed do it. He even has the gay premium tiers if you want gnome. Absolute madness.
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I wouldn't mind paying for a distro, even a recurring price, if it was high quality. Linux being free is hamstringing the development of viable MacOS replacements, and is causing infinite fragmentation of all the shit around DEs. I checked their website and the KDE version costs €10, €12 with support, so it's really a symbolic price.
 
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Kola said:
I wouldn't mind paying for a distro, even a recurring price, if it was high quality. Linux being free is hamstringing the development of viable MacOS replacements, and is causing infinite fragmentation of all the shit around DEs. I checked their website and the KDE version costs €10, €12 with support, so it's really a symbolic price.
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Paying for a distro is super gay. Distro maintainers are unpaid jannies, always have been, always will be.
 
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Kola said:
I wouldn't mind paying for a distro, even a recurring price, if it was high quality. Linux being free is hamstringing the development of viable MacOS replacements, and is causing infinite fragmentation of all the shit around DEs. I checked their website and the KDE version costs €10, €12 with support, so it's really a symbolic price.
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And what sort of precedent does it create? That you can just make a distro out of some main one and use all the same packages and repos they do and sell it after you add a DE and few configs? If anything it only fragmentates everything further since it gives the lazy autists incentive to make these useless distros and even get paid for it much more than just from donations.
 
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CrunkLord420 said:
Calm down they're just wrapper libraries. Rust people usually write and maintain them themselves.
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The rust code being within official scope will eventually be used as justification to add rust elsewhere. I doubt the cargo cultists will be satisfied that their rust crate has to talk to unsafe C-nile incel code when it could be supporting black lives and transitioning in rust instead.

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which are often shit because shoe-horning in RAII on top of C libraries is clunky and can come with lifetime ownership issues
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Wrappers are universally shit, regardless of what languages are involved.

Kola said:
I wouldn't mind paying for a distro, even a recurring price, if it was high quality. Linux being free is hamstringing the development of viable MacOS replacements, and is causing infinite fragmentation of all the shit around DEs. I checked their website and the KDE version costs €10, €12 with support, so it's really a symbolic price.
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Linux is not shit because it's free, Linux is free because it's shit. A Linux distro being paid software, a la RHEL or SLE, does not fix the underlying problems of a schizophrenicly designed software stack.
 
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Leech said:
xerolinux creator who for some mind-boggling reason made his arch-based KDE theme "distro" paid.
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Kola said:
I wouldn't mind paying for a distro, even a recurring price, if it was high quality. Linux being free is hamstringing the development of viable MacOS replacements, and is causing infinite fragmentation of all the shit around DEs. I checked their website and the KDE version costs €10, €12 with support, so it's really a symbolic price.
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Here's a better idea, make a decent, competent or good distro, and then let people decide if they want to support you or not.
 
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Fedora and Ubuntu couldn't make a fictional non-fragmented Linux desktop despite all the corpo support contracts. The Chinese are making their own attempt with Deepin, making their own DE and suite of applications to go with it. Fragmentation is a feature, not a bug.

None of this has ever required payment. At most corpo-distros sell support contracts. Xerolinux is totally unjustified in asking for money.
 
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Leech said:
And what sort of precedent does it create? That you can just make a distro out of some main one and use all the same packages and repos they do and sell it after you add a DE and few configs? If anything it only fragmentates everything further since it gives the lazy autists incentive to make these useless distros and even get paid for it much more than just from donations."
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The word is "fragments", "fragmentates" sounds like something Damon Wayans, Educated Convict character from In Living Color would say while sounding like an absolute moron.
 
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