Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Atlas Sneezed]

and yet the Gentoo install process is just as complicated and none of the Gentoo users seem as insufferable. Then again, I guess there are just a lot fewer of us out there in comparison. Maybe Arch hits that minimum threshold that leads to easy elitism?

I've never used arch, only Gentoo, and while their wiki is great, from what I've seen there isn't much to know about arch than how to configure the specific software that you want to use. This won't fly with Gentoo because most of the time you needed to understand how the thing actually works, portage would only handhold you enough to compile something, sometimes you'll have useful messages in the package, but 90% of the time it's on you to put the pieces together.

Or at least that's the way it was around 2010 when I used it. And let's not beat around the bush, Gentoo had it's own rice culture, especially with -O3 -zomg -ffast-math (which then pissed off upstream to no end when things would inevitably break. Just thinking about the quod Libet shitstorm brings a tear to my eyes)

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

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The image they included to introduce that comic is the real banger.

You see, unlike gays, lesbians, and bisexuals, we trans don't tear each other out of the closet against our will. Like your typical girl I'll compare this situation to a Linux distro. Also, in the spirit of open source I'm putting these brilliant remarks in the public domain.

I know the whole thing is chock full of botched formality, but this one set me off. If these MIT and CMU PhDs are too dumb to rewrite a phrase to remove a dangling preposition, they should just leave it in; their sycophantic readers won't notice or give a shit.

Now that I think about it, trannies ARE just like Arch Linux users. How do you know if you're dealing with one? They'll tell you.

- t. Arch Linux user

 

[CrunkLord420]

Distro circlejerking is never not gay but I WILL defend the honor of Arch. It has an installer now, I tried it, you can basically default next next next finish your way through it. I never have issues with my Arch installation. I update shit, and it works. It's really not a big deal.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Been daily driving Arch for a few months now, haven't broken shit that the wiki didn't have a fix for.

Y'all just dumb

 

[Kola]

Distro circlejerking is never not gay but I WILL defend the honor of Arch. It has an installer now, I tried it, you can basically default next next next finish your way through it. I never have issues with my Arch installation. I update shit, and it works. It's really not a big deal.

After using Endeavor (Arch with some defaults) for years I recently had to do some shit on an Ubuntu server and it's just horrible how bad and slow the package manager is.

 

[Lard Shart]

Any distro from recent times being broken is rather uncommon if you're not a retard. I've never had problems with an Arch or Artix install. But I soon found out, as a proprietary goyware enjoyer, that they often only make packages available for Debian based systems in the form of a .deb archive. I also feel alleviated from feeling guilty about not updating packages once a week.

 

[DavidS877]

proprietary goyware enjoyer, that they often only make packages available for Debian based systems in the form of a .deb

Depending on the package you can often repack into an appimage or docker/podman container. Not sure how wayland works with containers but it's pretty easy to wrap even a GUI X11 app and shove it in a podman container. Appimage is easier to use but harder to create.

 

[Meth Reindeer]

What is it with Arch specifically that attracts Troons and the most insuffurable Linux users in the world? I understand there's significant overlap there but its not exclusive.

It's about being special and better than others. "Oh you don't use the latest software, understand how Linux really works, or rice your desktop with anime cringe? You're such a poser."
That's at least what I assume.

Gentoo is a far better rolling release due to not being bleeding edge with its packages like Arch is (despite the compiling downside) that I never had stability trouble with, after 3 years of use as a daily driver.

I used Arch for a while and it was a great learning experience but hit issues similar to what you described and switched to Manjaro for its slightly behind but more stable packages, also it doesn't take a day to setup and install. Gentoo sounds similar but I am not pedantic about compiling all my software locally and actually don't mind pacman as a package manager.

Distro wars are really pointless in the grand scheme of things. It's all Linux and if you're smart enough you can get any software running on any distro.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

I used Arch for a while and it was a great learning experience but hit issues similar to what you described and switched to Manjaro for its slightly behind but more stable packages, also it doesn't take a day to setup and install. Gentoo sounds similar but I am not pedantic about compiling all my software locally and actually don't mind pacman as a package manager.

Gentoo isn't a blanket "2 weeks behind" like Manjaro which means you can't use a core Arch feature (the AUR), it has a default stable release that is 1-2 releases behind on packages, and an unstable release that is bang up to date. E.g., the stable KDE Plasma is 6.2.5 while the unstable is 6.3.4.
Being about 1-2 releases behind on everything is a great idea, and something I wish another rolling release did.

Distro wars are really pointless in the grand scheme of things. It's all Linux and if you're smart enough you can get any software running on any distro.

There's really only about 8 real Linux distributions, and it all comes down to the package manager. Everything else is (usually) Debian with a different wallpaper, and completely pointless.

 

[Ferryman]

There's really only about 8 real Linux distributions, and it all comes down to the package manager. Everything else is (usually) Debian with a different wallpaper, and completely pointless.

Those being:
Arch + derivatives
Debian + derivatives
Gentoo / Alpine / Void
Slackware
RHEL + derivatives
Specialized distros like OpenWRT, Peppermint, Puppy etc...

Am I missing any? That should cover all the main branches of the family tree. Also, running GVNTOO is objectively based, there's nothing quite like the feeling when something clicks after you get your hands dirty and build it from scratch.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

Am I missing any? That should cover all the main branches of the family tree

I would argue for separating Debian and Ubuntu since Ubuntu has their own special snowflake .deb packages that don't work on Debian.
RHEL is based on a specific version of Fedora, so Fedora is technically the upstream.
NixOS for all the autists here.
That should cover all cases.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

Now that I think about it, trannies ARE just like Arch Linux users. How do you know if you're dealing with one? They'll tell you.

- t. Arch Linux user

That doesn't make sense, plenty of troons will NOT tell you - but you can spot them easily.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Distro circlejerking is never not gay but I WILL defend the honor of Arch. It has an installer now, I tried it, you can basically default next next next finish your way through it. I never have issues with my Arch installation. I update shit, and it works. It's really not a big deal.

I'm considering switching to Manjaro and or straight up Arch for my next PC. I've been having a bad feeling about Ubuntu for a little bit, but it's been good for getting the hang of the overall ecosystem.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

Those being:
Arch + derivatives
Debian + derivatives
Gentoo / Alpine / Void
Slackware
RHEL + derivatives
Specialized distros like OpenWRT, Peppermint, Puppy etc...

Am I missing any? That should cover all the main branches of the family tree. Also, running GVNTOO is objectively based, there's nothing quite like the feeling when something clicks after you get your hands dirty and build it from scratch.

Maybe Linux From Scratch? That's not a major one, but I used it for a year in school and it really helped me learn everything about Linux tool internals. It was a useful skill to have when dealing with OpenWRT and some jobs I had in early Linux embedded (pre Raspberry Pi; more like BeagleBone era). I moved to Gentoo after LFS, which felt like LFS with package management. Now I could specify USE flags instead of keeping a text file of all my ./configure options.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

At first I was shocked they even made an Arch Linux T-shirt in that size. I don't know what that size would even be called. But then I remembered it was Arch Linux.

Is there n word linux I feel like that should be a thing linux for racists

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

Is there n word linux I feel like that should be a thing linux for racists

There was Linux for Niggers. I uploaded the ISO here

Diseased Post in thread 'Open Source Software Community'

Dec 20, 2023

Very surprised that nobody talks about Linux for Niggers - THE FIRST OPERATING SYSTEM MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
Never made it past the first version. Not a surprise. Them white folk don't like it when when we try to get ahead.

Linux for Niggers thankfully compresses extremely well so here's a copy for all the niggers in the thread to enjoy.

• Flaming Dumpster

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[mentally retarded user]

The only reason why Arch is "hard to install" is because the "Installation Guide" on the wiki is too verbose with many time-wasting sentences and derailment, and even though the article is quite long, they still split it up, like the partition configuration, full system encryption is also hidden in another fucking article far away from the install guide.
Network setup is also on another fucking article, like installing dhcpcd. So if a noob decided to take it easy and just stay on the Install Guide article, they will succesfully install Arch with no internet.
If there was a non-autistic retard editing the wiki they could just put a 20 line codeblock that is a list of every relevant command, attach footnotes to each line to the relevant wiki article, done.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

The only reason why Arch is "hard to install" is because the "Installation Guide" on the wiki is too verbose with many time-wasting sentences and derailment, and even though the article is quite long, they still split it up, like the partition configuration, full system encryption is also hidden in another fucking article far away from the install guide.

The Arch Wiki is so bad for Network Management and boot loader steps I had to use the fucking Gentoo wiki, which has them written up in a good amount of detail but not Autistic like the Arch installation guide at its first steps.

 

[Ferryman]

Maybe Linux From Scratch? That's not a major one, but I used it for a year in school and it really helped me learn everything about Linux tool internals. It was a useful skill to have when dealing with OpenWRT and some jobs I had in early Linux embedded (pre Raspberry Pi; more like BeagleBone era). I moved to Gentoo after LFS, which felt like LFS with package management. Now I could specify USE flags instead of keeping a text file of all my ./configure options.

I see Linux From Scratch as more of a learning experience than I do a functional operating system, and it does that job really well. Haven't used it myself, but I can say with confidence that running Gentoo has helped me tremendously in low-level Linux tinkering, especially with setting up WRT & Pi-Hole.

 

[Rancid Xylitol]

I'm considering switching to Manjaro and or straight up Arch for my next PC. I've been having a bad feeling about Ubuntu for a little bit, but it's been good for getting the hang of the overall ecosystem.

I was on Ubuntu for a while but they started making some bad decisions. Snap is crazy, I fucking hate it. Ubuntu's doing some weird shit like replacing .deb packages with Snap on the fly. I more or less rage-quit Ubuntu.
I was looking around at a few distros, decided to give Manjaro a try. It ended up being kinda fun... I wasn't used to having the latest versions of software (because I ran Ubuntu LTS).
HOWEVER I have to say, I like to use Linux for work so I generally like a stable environment, and Manjaro proved to not be stable enough. I would still consider running it again on a play-around machine just to be able to kick around new stuff.

Now, for my work machine I went to the most boring environment I could rustle up: Debian. One big change to running Debian these past couple years is that a lot of applications are distributed on Flatpak and AppImages. There's also a distrobox program where you can run newer programs in containers. So, I've more or less settled for Debian as a stable core with newer applications imported as I need them. Debian doesn't really change ever and is a very stable base. Those of you looking for new and shiny applications out of the box should probably look elsewhere.

I did also take a detour around immutable OSes, which were interesting, but made tweaking a bit too hard (I guess that's a feature).