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I would have never guessed they had so many paid employees to begin with… what were they all doing? Surely they had plenty of fat to trim.
Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts
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Thousands of pointless "socially conscious" pet projects that existed to burn money.
There used to be an entire section of the mozilla website dedicated to it before it was taken down out of embarassment.
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Seething and dilating. They'll probably keep all those and fire problematic white males who were oppressing everyone by actually working.
Mr. Boogedy
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The 70 let go in January were reportedly mostly browser QA. I expect them to lay off more browser employees before any diversity or marketing employees.
There were a decent amount of programmers fired also. From what I heard, the Corporation hasn't had so much income since their referral deal with Google expired, and programmers in California are quite expensive...
Mr. Boogedy
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They were fucked from the second they fired their co-founder.
BlueSpark
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Extreme Tech has a delightfully catty article on the layoffs:
Mozilla Fires 250 Employees, 25 Percent of Existing Workforce
By Joel Hruska on August 11, 2020 at 4:24 pm
Mozilla, the non-profit organization behind the development of the Firefox web browser, has announced it is firing 250 people or roughly one-quarter of its workforce. The company’s blog post announcing these changes reads like some kind of utopian fan fiction. It declares “Changing World, Changing Mozilla” before opening with: “This is a time of change for the internet and for Mozilla. From combatting a lethal virus and battling systemic racism to protecting individual privacy — one thing is clear: an open and accessible internet is essential to the fight.”
“Hell yeah!” you might be thinking. “Mozilla is going to ramp up its efforts to win market share, so that the entire internet isn’t dominated by Chrome, with a small carve-out for Safari!” CEO Mitchell Baker continues with:
Firefox still uses its own Gecko rendering engine but holds less than five percent market share. It isn’t untoward for the organization to be working to increase those figures and it isn’t a bad idea to jettison projects that won’t be helpful towards the end goal, but Mozilla’s public-facing letter doesn’t communicate any meaningful detail on its plans for the future.
Internet browser share, 2020. Image by Statista
We are told that “Mozilla must be a world-class, modern, multi-product internet organization,” that upholding its values is important, and that the company’s mindset needs to change from defending and protecting the internet as a platform to one that is “proactive, curious, and engaged.” The company will supposedly look for more opportunities to partner with other companies and to work with them on what they’re attempting to accomplish — which doesn’t necessarily square with the idea that it’s going to also double down on upholding its values, particularly when Point #5 of the letter is: “New focus on economics.” Here, Mozilla acknowledges that giving everything away for free hasn’t been a sustainable business model — something any journalist writing today would typically agree with — while then declaring that Mozilla must find new methods of monetization that honor and protect people.
The internally facing memo sent to staff has a little more meat on it. All operations in Taipei are being closed. In addition to the 250 job losses, some 60 people will be reassigned. It’s making investments in Pocket, Hubs, VPN, Web Assembly, and various security and privacy products. Two new teams, focused on design and UX (user experience) will be created, and a new ML feature team will be assembled to add machine learning to Firefox. The future of projects such as Rust wasn’t discussed in either letter, but since Rust is now baked into Firefox and has been a fairly successful project, the organization will presumably continue to devote resources to its development.
Firefox’s survival is important to the long-term future of the internet, given the complete lack of any real competition for Chrome in the PC arena. Apple provides Safari as an alternative for Mac users, but the company hasn’t built a PC version of the browser for a long time and the chances that we’ll see one in the future once Apple goes ARM are nil. Historically, it’s never been good for the browser market to be dominated by a single company and Google has already shown a distinct willingness to push changes that benefit itself rather than the online community at large.
By Joel Hruska on August 11, 2020 at 4:24 pm
Mozilla, the non-profit organization behind the development of the Firefox web browser, has announced it is firing 250 people or roughly one-quarter of its workforce. The company’s blog post announcing these changes reads like some kind of utopian fan fiction. It declares “Changing World, Changing Mozilla” before opening with: “This is a time of change for the internet and for Mozilla. From combatting a lethal virus and battling systemic racism to protecting individual privacy — one thing is clear: an open and accessible internet is essential to the fight.”
“Hell yeah!” you might be thinking. “Mozilla is going to ramp up its efforts to win market share, so that the entire internet isn’t dominated by Chrome, with a small carve-out for Safari!” CEO Mitchell Baker continues with:
Just, you know… not enough to keep them around.
Firefox still uses its own Gecko rendering engine but holds less than five percent market share. It isn’t untoward for the organization to be working to increase those figures and it isn’t a bad idea to jettison projects that won’t be helpful towards the end goal, but Mozilla’s public-facing letter doesn’t communicate any meaningful detail on its plans for the future.
Internet browser share, 2020. Image by Statista
We are told that “Mozilla must be a world-class, modern, multi-product internet organization,” that upholding its values is important, and that the company’s mindset needs to change from defending and protecting the internet as a platform to one that is “proactive, curious, and engaged.” The company will supposedly look for more opportunities to partner with other companies and to work with them on what they’re attempting to accomplish — which doesn’t necessarily square with the idea that it’s going to also double down on upholding its values, particularly when Point #5 of the letter is: “New focus on economics.” Here, Mozilla acknowledges that giving everything away for free hasn’t been a sustainable business model — something any journalist writing today would typically agree with — while then declaring that Mozilla must find new methods of monetization that honor and protect people.
The internally facing memo sent to staff has a little more meat on it. All operations in Taipei are being closed. In addition to the 250 job losses, some 60 people will be reassigned. It’s making investments in Pocket, Hubs, VPN, Web Assembly, and various security and privacy products. Two new teams, focused on design and UX (user experience) will be created, and a new ML feature team will be assembled to add machine learning to Firefox. The future of projects such as Rust wasn’t discussed in either letter, but since Rust is now baked into Firefox and has been a fairly successful project, the organization will presumably continue to devote resources to its development.
Firefox’s survival is important to the long-term future of the internet, given the complete lack of any real competition for Chrome in the PC arena. Apple provides Safari as an alternative for Mac users, but the company hasn’t built a PC version of the browser for a long time and the chances that we’ll see one in the future once Apple goes ARM are nil. Historically, it’s never been good for the browser market to be dominated by a single company and Google has already shown a distinct willingness to push changes that benefit itself rather than the online community at large.
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The language of that is such shit. It is written by some utterly worthless troon or soy boy or someone who is probably still working there and has not done one remotely useful thing in his fucking life.
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Schizo-posting on the Linux kernel mailing list (Archive). My favorite part is this little excerpt:
> The spitting image of past euro-centric times. He refuses to dye his hair a more world-representative black or dark brown, and refuses to wear black or brown contact lenses.
> The spitting image of past euro-centric times. He refuses to dye his hair a more world-representative black or dark brown, and refuses to wear black or brown contact lenses.
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Well he's not wrong. If this guy wasn't a sodomite or a drug user he wouldn't be pozzed.A Sensible Person said:
Plank
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In related news I found while reading about this, FreeBSD looks like they dumped the toxic CoC after donations started drying up and developers kept leaving the project.
I don't think it will make any difference. The damage is done and the world has moved on.
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I looked into it. Yeah, looks like they adopted a new one back in June. Here's a mailing list post explaining why and how: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2020-June/001959.html
Here's the old CoC. It was the "*backrub*" one - so not quite as objectionable as the "but insulting white people is okay" one, but still one that has a Randi Harper-esque stench to it: http://archive.is/rMnfv
The new one is blissfully shorter and more of the "just try to keep on topic" type: http://archive.is/VBC4p
Here's the old CoC. It was the "*backrub*" one - so not quite as objectionable as the "but insulting white people is okay" one, but still one that has a Randi Harper-esque stench to it: http://archive.is/rMnfv
The new one is blissfully shorter and more of the "just try to keep on topic" type: http://archive.is/VBC4p
ditto
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I really like Plemora's Cofe of Conduct.
The entire Lobste.rs release announcement was derailed because of it.
The entire Lobste.rs release announcement was derailed because of it.
Plank
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The most retarded part about this is that the author of the article goes out of his way to bash Trump and right-wingers, even as Leftists are tearing down the only thing he loves. Maybe Trump is... Right about Leftism?
ditto
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"Note: The complaints and the event itself happened in 2014"
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That has to be a troll- given that quote, and the email provider used by the user who posted it. It does cover all the bases in an admirable way however. Reminds me of Trollaxor's best work.
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Because "it’s not a new or “woke” thing but a long tradition — a conservative habit."
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Having read the article, it's pretty vague, but describes bad behavior, which therefore is by definition "conservative?"