Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[clownworld]

If you fork something because you want some changes or features upstream wants, you should include a clear attribution statement from the start. Also going around and PRing to every major package that uses the original is just tacky. This AI guy is increasingly looking like a schmuck. I'm curious now how much he had actually to do with all of those other packages he "has" to his name.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Ruby didn’t suck CoC hard enough so now they made the CoC cover literally anything they want anytime.

Remove abuse enabling language by jacobherrington · Pull Request #2690 · ruby/www.ruby-lang.org

My rationale for these changes are documented on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeHerrington/status/1443286841533374469

github.com

 

[Czechem Republic]

Ruby didn’t suck CoC hard enough so now they made the CoC cover literally anything they want anytime.

Remove abuse enabling language by jacobherrington · Pull Request #2690 · ruby/www.ruby-lang.org

My rationale for these changes are documented on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeHerrington/status/1443286841533374469

github.com

And of course, the submitter is a shitlib whose twitter profile begins with pronouns.

Ah well. Ruby is a dead language anyways.

..oh my fuck, you wanna know what started this?

Spoiler: SUPER OFFENSIVE! TRIGGER WARNING! TRIGGER WARNING! CLICK AT OWN RISK!

Hello,
Another example - perhaps somebody could fix that (many errors have that
source!)
Date.today
Date.today +1 # no error, but wrong result!
# Maybe this has been written for women, having calculated their age

Bonus HN Spergery: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28712821

 

[Coolio55]

Ruby didn’t suck CoC hard enough so now they made the CoC cover literally anything they want anytime.

Remove abuse enabling language by jacobherrington · Pull Request #2690 · ruby/www.ruby-lang.org

My rationale for these changes are documented on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeHerrington/status/1443286841533374469

github.com

Personally I'm just waiting for the day that a language's official specification (or at least the main implementation) will refuse to compile programs if there's rude words detected in the source code.

 

[Uncle Ted's Cabin]

Personally I'm just waiting for the day that a language's official specification (or at least the main implementation) will refuse to compile programs if there's rude words detected in the source code.

I'm expecting that at some point in the not so far future, someone will at least come up with an open source license that is worded in such a way to prevent "bad people" from contributing to and/or forking projects that adopt it.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

Ruby didn’t suck CoC hard enough so now they made the CoC cover literally anything they want anytime.

Remove abuse enabling language by jacobherrington · Pull Request #2690 · ruby/www.ruby-lang.org

My rationale for these changes are documented on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeHerrington/status/1443286841533374469

github.com

One, the sentence "My rationale for these changes are documented on Twitter:" should never ever appear in a pull request, and a sane project would never let that fly.

Two, I'd like to point out that both the faggot who submitted the PR, as well as the other faggot who originally started bitching about it on twatter, list ADHD in their twatter bios. I've started noticing more and more socjus pieces of shit doing that a couple weeks back. I guess there was a NPC update or something, a while back they started doing this with "I'm X and I'm autistic", but I suppose that's too mainstream now. Fuck all of these people, being a retard isn't something to brag about. I wonder when the sexual deviants will start coming out on mailing lists and demanding respect. "Hello folx, I'm X and I'm a babyfur diaperfag."

 

[Kosher Dill]

I'm expecting that at some point in the not so far future, someone will at least come up with an open source license that is worded in such a way to prevent "bad people" from contributing to and/or forking projects that adopt it.

People have already tried this sort of thing, remember those licenses that were supposed to ban ICE or "fascists" from using the software?

 

[ditto]

I'm expecting that at some point in the not so far future, someone will at least come up with an open source license that is worded in such a way to prevent "bad people" from contributing to and/or forking projects that adopt it.

People have already tried this sort of thing, remember those licenses that were supposed to ban ICE or "fascists" from using the software?

Going back even further The JSON License says The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil which was struck down as non-free by based Stallman with solid pre-current-year reasoning:

The conclusion is clear: a program must not restrict what jobs its users do with it. Freedom 0 must be complete. We need to stop torture, but we can't do it through software licenses. The proper job of software licenses is to establish and protect users' freedom.

 

[Shoggoth]

This might be a hot take but GOOD
I hope it gets a lot worse. I hope Ruby becomes unusable and that every company and website relying on it will break.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

Bonus HN Spergery: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28712821

Those HN takes weren't as bad as I was expecting. Sure you've got the typical soyjacks bitching that it doesn't go far enough, but a lot of the other (apparently well-received) takes were reasonable. Such as that the joke, while probably inappropriate for a workflow, was more of a unfunny anodyne dad-joke than something actually sexist; that this CoC shit is starting to get massively out of hand; that it's super convenient that Matz just happens to be absent while all of these pushes are being made; and that the whole thing with 'protected classes' has a distinctly faggoty Californian feel to it.

I dunno, I'm not as blackpilled as I thought I would be reading all of that. Not sure it matters at this point of the game though, and the state of FOSS is still not looking good.

 

[Besachf Jhakut]

Those HN takes weren't as bad as I was expecting.

Searching on "matz" found this one of special interest:

[Some blackpilling based Redis, whereas matz living in Japan has already been through this goat rodeo for Ruby.]

> When another user, Isaac Schlueter, committed the change anyway,

Isaac "white men need no apply" Schlueter. This guy never resigned of any group he was part of, or NPM leadership when he said some objectively racist comments... rules don't apply to them...

The people who push these "codes of conducts" are the one harassing others and codes of conducts give them a way to harass other developers into ideological submission without being punished for their harassment tactics, because CoC are written in such away that if you're not following the intersectional ideology then you are fair game.

All that had never had anything to do with programming, it's purely partisanship. And if you don't cave, harassers are relentless because they have their own massive internet mobs on social media, a well oiled ideological war machine.

Strange, isn't it, how the same bad pennies keep turning up.

Not sure it matters [how un-blackpilled I am] at this point of the game though, and the state of FOSS is still not looking good.

For now I'm more optimistic, Ruby I don't think is a big thing except for the web and database Ruby on Rails framework which has been captured by the very worst in FOSS although node.js gives it a run for its money, NPM is part of that. Rails is what tranny and #1 CoC promoter Coraline Ada Ehmke uses, and has been the launching platform for entryists like "I want a violent tech Antifa" Steve Klabnik. The really important stuff isn't to my knowledge threatened yet. Even mixed bag when it comes to the real health of FOSS RMS has been returned to the board of the FSF.

Greater danger for the moment might come from Red Hat being Bluewashed by IBM after acquisition, but if that kills off the systemd project many will rejoice.

 

[Panzerfrau]

And of course, the submitter is a shitlib whose twitter profile begins with pronouns.

Ah well. Ruby is a dead language anyways.

..oh my fuck, you wanna know what started this?

Spoiler: SUPER OFFENSIVE! TRIGGER WARNING! TRIGGER WARNING! CLICK AT OWN RISK!

Hello,
Another example - perhaps somebody could fix that (many errors have that
source!)
Date.today
Date.today +1 # no error, but wrong result!
# Maybe this has been written for women, having calculated their age

Bonus HN Spergery: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28712821

I love how they are dumb enough that some of them don't seem to recognize that this hmdne guy is taking a piss. If he would word his trolling a bit more subtly, I bet they would happily merge "no arguing with protected classes" change as well.

Ruby community is cucked beyond belief (khe, khe, Factory Girl [*]) and on its own it wouldn't be a big of a problem since it's a dead language anyway, but it spills onto another languages as well.

 

[Uncle Ted's Cabin]

People have already tried this sort of thing, remember those licenses that were supposed to ban ICE or "fascists" from using the software?

I vaguely remember that. At some point they will try again and it will be more successful because these people have more power than they did during previous attempts.

Going back even further The JSON License says The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil which was struck down as non-free by based Stallman with solid pre-current-year reasoning:

This is of course why they have been working tirelessly to erode the influence that people like RMS have over the free software movement.

 

[Next Task]

I love how they are dumb enough that some of them don't seem to recognize that this hmdne guy is taking a piss.

I enjoyed that too. He starts by saying that some people might get offended by viewpoints being expressed, like large corporations, and the idiot who suggests the changes in the first place agrees with him. Because he didn't think about what was being said, he just saw someone agreeing that if anyone is offended then it should be removed and didn't bother, or care, what the example was.

I don't even think hmdne needed to be more subtle. Even when later someone asks who protected groups would be in terms of taking offence and he suggests CEOs and board members of large corporations, it's still ignored that all these attempts to weaponise taking offence can, will and have been used by the exact people they're meant to be actively against.

But then, I'd bet the dad joke that started it wasn't ever complained about, just a white knight saw it and decided to take offence on behalf of all women, with the consequences being, as always, tightening restrictions on speech.

 

[Shoggoth]

I enjoyed that too. He starts by saying that some people might get offended by viewpoints being expressed, like large corporations, and the idiot who suggests the changes in the first place agrees with him. Because he didn't think about what was being said, he just saw someone agreeing that if anyone is offended then it should be removed and didn't bother, or care, what the example was.

I don't even think hmdne needed to be more subtle. Even when later someone asks who protected groups would be in terms of taking offence and he suggests CEOs and board members of large corporations, it's still ignored that all these attempts to weaponise taking offence can, will and have been used by the exact people they're meant to be actively against.

But then, I'd bet the dad joke that started it wasn't ever complained about, just a white knight saw it and decided to take offence on behalf of all women, with the consequences being, as always, tightening restrictions on speech.

His PR got in. He got them to remove "participants will be tolerant of opposing views"
Amazing.

 

[Shoggoth]

Oh, they reverted it.
Too bad

Ruby reverted the controversial Code of Conduct changes | Hacker News

news.ycombinator.com

Ruby updates code of conduct to promote inclusion

Maintainers behind the Ruby programming language have revised the project's Code of Conduct on GitHub to remove tolerating opposing viewpoints as a prerequisite. The decision comes after a community member posted a joke that many deemed sexist.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

 

[Hồ Chí Minh]

No PRs to the Ruby CoC are needed; users can just monkey-patch it to fit their needs.

 

[Besachf Jhakut]

 

[byuu]

We need a +NIGGER+WINNIEPOOH license.

 

[Least Concern]

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@CrunkLord420 is a fan of this license variant IIRC.